BurnSchoolTrailers in 29b.

[MMDad]

I really value what people say on here so I checked out the above claims and found them to be wrong. Here is the "truth" as MMDad refers to it.

1) I (JPC, Sr.) am the only one that referenced a book to back up my position in Post #46.

2) I am the one that has repeatedly given links to websites to back up what I say is truth, see the links on Post #1, #18, #22, #46, and a follow up link on post #48.

3) The only other link given in this entire thread was by KK and I corrected his misinterpretation through his own link on Post #12.

Thus as KK just said in his last post, stupid is as stupid does.

So you freely admit that you have seen books and websites that tell you the truth, yet you insist on spouting your lies. Congratulations idiot.

I have worked for the Navy since January 3, 1985. There is a slight chance I may actually know what I'm talking about here. Likewise, Ken King has worked for the Navy since they first discovered steam. Maybe he knows what he's talking about.

We have tried to tell you the truth, yet you insist that you are correct. Show a little maturity. Read one of those books or websites. Learn.

Even better, continue to deny the truth. Wouldn't it be a hoot to see you spout your ignorant crap in a debate? Maybe you should challenge Bohannon to a debate. Now that would be entertainment!

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

... I have worked for the Navy since January 3, 1985. There is a slight chance I may actually know what I'm talking about here. Likewise, Ken King has worked for the Navy since they first discovered steam. Maybe he knows what he's talking about. ...

I guess some might be concerned about losing their jobs but do not worry as it will all work out in the end. Have faith.

Even better, continue to deny the truth. Wouldn't it be a hoot to see you spout your ignorant crap in a debate? Maybe you should challenge Bohannon to a debate. Now that would be entertainment!

It is not a debate but me and Bohanan will give a short speech and answer some question at the SMC League of Women Voters forum at the Lexington Park Library on Thursday August 31, 2006. Time will probably be in the evening about 7:30 to 9:00 ??? League Woman Voters, MD.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

Look you dumb bastard, it isn't my fault that you cannot comprehend the fact that NAWCAD is the Aircraft Division of NAVAIR. I guess for your piss poor excuse of a brain it doesn't matter that I and many others work for them and that we know exactly what we are talking about. Maybe if you actually got off your lazy ass you and productively contributed to the community by working you might discover a thing or two outside what the librarian shows you.

You change the definitions of words, you ignore facts that smack you dead square in the face, and you spew stupidity in every post you make. The fact that you are the most ignorant person alive is about the only thing you could have pride in and I predict this will be proven once again when your stupid, dead-beat, free-loading ass gets trounced in the primary.

Perhaps it is a valid point that some people might fear losing their jobs when I put a flat stop to this reckless policy of out-of-control growth.

This is one of those big reasons why people need faith in God and not that futile faith in money. Many of the high ranking people in charge of business and gov tend to treat the common population like chattle and like property because our dominent society has given over their power from God and are serving a brutal task master that only pays in superficial profits.

So even though others might lack in the faith that makes people great, I will lead the way and there is no need to worry as it will all work out fine.

 

[Ken King]

Perhaps it is a valid point that some people might fear losing their jobs when I put a flat stop to this reckless policy of out-of-control growth.

This is one of those big reasons why people need faith in God and not that futile faith in money. Many of the high ranking people in charge of business and gov tend to treat the common population like chattle and like property because our dominent society has given over their power from God and are serving a brutal task master that only pays in superficial profits.

So even though others might lack in the faith that makes people great, I will lead the way and there is no need to worry as it will all work out fine.

Trust me dipshit I have faith that it will all work out as I have no doubt that you will get your sorry ass kicked soundly by Bohanon in the primary and then you will fade from our memory once we don't have to suffer your continued ignorance any longer.

Your day is coming and it is coming soon. Three months and counting until JPC dries up and blows away.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

Trust me dipshit I have faith that it will all work out as I have no doubt that you will get your sorry ass kicked soundly by Bohanon in the primary and then you will fade from our memory once we don't have to suffer your continued ignorance any longer.

Your day is coming and it is coming soon. Three months and counting until JPC dries up and blows away.

Even if I do lose the election then I myself do not lose. I have much more to do.

This election is just a stepping stone, win or lose. This is why faith is my friend and lack of spiritual understanding is a detriment to anyone.

 

[Pete]

KK is posting like a baby that just wants to win an arguement at all cost. NAVAIR is a subordinate to NAWAD. Just read the top heading to KK's link and click the "HOME" button. It shows him up as trying to mislead and misrepresent.

 

[Ken King]

Even if I do lose the election then I myself do not lose. I have much more to do.

This election is just a stepping stone, win or lose. This is why faith is my friend and lack of spiritual understanding is a detriment to anyone.

Stepping stone to what? Steny's job. When you lose you lose. End of story. It will be back to spray painting buildings for you once again and maybe another few years in jail.

 

[kwillia]

Oh Crap!!! Looks like the Pax base growth has had a detrimental affect on more than just 29B...

 

[Cletus_Vandam]

We all could go on forever with the discussion on the "closing" of the base.

Can we go back to the topic of trailers?

The reason why trailers are used because they are less expensive and quicker to use than construction of a new school or an addition to an existing one. Trailers create an opportunity for flexibility within the system. Each school's population increases and decreases with changes. Trailers can be pulled from one school where they are no longer required and placed at schools were the population warrants such.

They are also very useful in keeping students attending the same school while it is undergoing construction. Examples of this are Leonardtown HS, Margaret Brent MS, etc. Otherwise the BoE would be redistricting kids every time they had a school undergoing construction. Now that's a great idea...

Relocatables are used across the Country to solve population issues at private and public schools.

How can something be deemed unsafe when no one has been injured? No one is arguing the fact that trailers aren't non-combustible. But, since no one injured and it's safe to safe that if the fire had initiated while school was in, the students would have had plenty of time to exit and pull the fire alarm. This isn't my words, this came from the Fire Marshal doing the investigation.

Trailers are a necessary evil in the school environment. If JPC were to be elected to any office responsible for setting budget and planning, per his posts, he would start an aggressive school construction program to meet the population, while closing the base. What happens then after the population drops by 25 to 40 percent because of employment issues and the schools that costs millions upon millions to build begin to operate below capacity? You cannot let a 20-million dollar facility operate at 20% below population capacity.

So JPC what would you do with all of the vacant multi-million dollar schools once St. Mary's turns into the next ghost-town because of the base closure?

 

[Cletus_Vandam]

trailers are "safer"

Students in a trailer are inherently in a safer environment than in the "bricks and mortar" building that JPC keeps screaming about.

Let's talk about something called "travel distance". This is one of many code requirements that Architects must think about when designing. The Life Safety code allows a travel distance of 200-feet in a sprinklered building. That's 200-feet or travel before occupants hit the building exterior, separated building compartment or area of refuge/rescue. In a trailer you travel 50-feet in any direction and you immediately outside the structure and "safe".

Not to mention you don't have 150-300 people trying the safely go through the same series of doors. One relocatable 25 students through one door...

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

We all could go on forever with the discussion on the "closing" of the base.

I am not talking about closing the Base but just stopping the unneeded expantion that is overloading our County's entire infrastructure. And the Base is not going to pack up and leave just because I demand that it start to act like a respectful guest in our home. The Base can stay but the growth has got to go.

Can we go back to the topic of trailers?

The reason why trailers are used because they are less expensive and quicker to use than construction of a new school or an addition to an existing one. Trailers create an opportunity for flexibility within the system. Each school's population increases and decreases with changes. Trailers can be pulled from one school where they are no longer required and placed at schools were the population warrants such.

They are also very useful in keeping students attending the same school while it is undergoing construction. Examples of this are Leonardtown HS, Margaret Brent MS, etc. Otherwise the BoE would be redistricting kids every time they had a school undergoing construction. Now that's a great idea.

We have 84 relocatable trailers in use right now and the BOE is getting more trailers to handle the excessive growth and that is far too many. Any new school construction will not even begin until next year and another year or two before it can be completed and the plan is to bring huge Columbine style schools here and all of it is because of the reckless political poilicies of out-of-control growth coming into this area. I do mean to put a stop to it.

Relocatables are used across the Country to solve population issues at private and public schools.

We do not have to follow the rest of the Country down the drain. If we continue we will become a suburb of Washington D.C. and we can stop it in this 2006 election.

How can something be deemed unsafe when no one has been injured? No one is arguing the fact that trailers aren't non-combustible. But, since no one injured and it's safe to safe that if the fire had initiated while school was in, the students would have had plenty of time to exit and pull the fire alarm. This isn't my words, this came from the Fire Marshal doing the investigation.

Two of the relocatable trailers have already burned down in 29b. If people want to keep second rate and inferior conditions then just keep voting for Hoyer, Bohanan and the likes of McKay and the second rate inferior conditions we already have and will continue.

Trailers are a necessary evil in the school environment.

It is only necessary so long as we keep the weak political leaders that we have now.

So JPC what would you do with all of the vacant multi-million dollar schools once St. Mary's turns into the next ghost-town because of the base closure?

I am never talking about closing the Navy Base and making the Base start acting like a respectful guest in our home is not going to shut the Base down. The Navy Base can stop bringing in people and projects that overload our community and I intend to point that out to them.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

NAWCAD is NAVAIR you freaking moron. ... [ NAWCAD vs. NAVAIR. ]

Well to me it matters very little which acronym is the dominant one. If it is NAWCAD or NAVAIR ? It just proves that my connections are only in St. Mary's County and not with the Navy Base and I will never sell out to it. Bohanan probably knows all the acronyms for each and every project as surely Bohanan knows which side his bread is buttered on and which side is getting dumped on. But for me, I intend to represent SMC, 29b and not represent the Navy Base as Bohanan does. So if it be NAVAIR or NAWCAD both are overloading our community and our infrastructure so then they both can start moving their excessive expantions right on out of here. Acronyms and all.

 

[Ken King]

Well to me it matters very little which acronym is the dominant one. If it is NAWCAD or NAVAIR ? It just proves that my connections are only in St. Mary's County and not with the Navy Base and I will never sell out to it. Bohanan probably knows all the acronyms for each and every project as surely Bohanan knows which side his bread is buttered on and which side is getting dumped on. But for me, I intend to represent SMC, 29b and not represent the Navy Base as Bohanan does. So if it be NAVAIR or NAWCAD both are overloading our community and our infrastructure so then they both can start moving their excessive expantions right on out of here. Acronyms and all.

Considering that NAVAIR and NAWCAD (AKA the NAVY) have been "residents" in the county for many years, why aren't you going to represent them? Aren't they worthy of your effort? Is it your intent to discriminate against those working to assure our security? Is it your further intent to work on making employment opportunities disappear returning to the days of the tobacco farms?

You have not been a productive member of our society for years and you do not realize that many of us won't be content to accept the lifestyle that you seem to find sufficient nor will we suckle the teat of the government resulting in greater burden on those that do work for a living.

You continuously cry that the infrastructure is being overburdened but fail to realize that whether or not new projects come to Patuxent our population will continue to grow as it has for decades and the burden will continue to increase whether these projects come here or not. The question is whether or not you want a viable economy in place to generate the revenue necessary to accommodate that growth or not. I suspect your answer is that you do not and that it is your plan to go to Annapolis to beg for handouts versus positioning the county to take care of itself.

 

[Cletus_Vandam]

We have 84 relocatable trailers in use right now and the BOE is getting more trailers to handle the excessive growth

The County is not getting any more traielrs.... As I understand it, they are all just being moved around within the County. That reinforces my earlier comment about them being necessary. If the needed capacity were on a few locations within the County as stationary buildings, then we would be bussing students on hour long-plus rides from point A to point B. That is not a viable option.

The trailers are here to stay, unlike you....bub-bye

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

Considering that NAVAIR and NAWCAD (AKA the NAVY) have been "residents" in the county for many years, why aren't you going to represent them? Aren't they worthy of your effort? Is it your intent to discriminate against those working to assure our security?

Stopping the reckless growth will be beneficial to all residents and I would add that stopping the senseless growth will be beneficial to the Navy too. The Navy now knows that the growth is excessive and harmful to the community. It is only being done through the horrible political pressure of our political representatives through Bohanan in 29b. When I am elected then all the population will benefit.

You continuously cry that the infrastructure is being overburdened but fail to realize that whether or not new projects come to Patuxent our population will continue to grow as it has for decades and the burden will continue to increase whether these projects come here or not.

KK and Bohanan have surrendered to the growth but I will put a dead stop to it. It is time to rise and to fight and not to give in to more defeatism.

The question is whether or not you want a viable economy in place to generate the revenue necessary to accommodate that growth or not.

I do not want to accommadate the growth anymore at all. By accommodating it now we have overcrowded schools and crammed overfull jail and super high property prices and more. I say it is time we stop the accommadations and take back control of our home. The Navy Base is a guest in our home and when I get elected then we will stop being its servants to our own detriment.

I suspect your answer is that you do not and that it is your plan to go to Annapolis to beg for handouts versus positioning the county to take care of itself.

We do not need to beg for anything and we can take care of ourselves. I have faith in the value of our home - St. Mary's County - and our value does not have to be in servitude to a Navy Base with out-of-control growth that overloads our entire infrastructure. But that is only if I get elected because if KK and John Bohanan continue then we will remain servants in our own home.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

The County is not getting any more traielrs.... As I understand it, they are all just being moved around within the County. That reinforces my earlier comment about them being necessary. If the needed capacity were on a few locations within the County as stationary buildings, then we would be bussing students on hour long-plus rides from point A to point B. That is not a viable option.

If we keep settling for second rate and inferior conditions then that is what we will have. My campaign is giving the voters an option of raising above it by voting for me - or not and keep getting dumped on.

The trailers are here to stay, unlike you....bub-bye

That might be true but we shall see.

 

[Pete]

If we keep settling for second rate and inferior conditions then that is what we will have.

Anyone who votes for you is asking for "second rate and inferior" in spades you ignorant bastage.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

Anyone who votes for you is asking for "second rate and inferior" in spades you ignorant bastage.

Pete gives his opinion as if it is a fact. For me I tell what second rate and inferior conditions mean so mine is verifiable. Like overcrowded schools, burned down trailers, super inflated property prices, and more. See, I back up my words with substance and I take action on my beliefs. A big difference indeed.

 

[Pete]

Pete gives his opinion as if it is a fact. For me I tell what second rate and inferior conditions mean so mine is verifiable. Like overcrowded schools, burned down trailers, super inflated property prices, and more. See, I back up my words with substance and I take action on my beliefs. A big difference indeed.

You ramble endlessly using buzz words and gibberish. You wane about "The poor kids in trailers" out of one side of your retarded pie hole, then out the other side of your sewer you are spinning pearls about how non-custodial parents don't really need to support their kids, they are small, don't eat much and can sleep on a couch.

Which is it retardo? I know, I know Oligarchy uncontrolled reckless growth Navy base bad guest in our homes over burdened infrastructure

Take action? Shirley you jest. You know for a fact you couldn't get elected Horseshit scooper for the memorial day parade if you offered to use your hands instead of a shovel. Claiming "action" based on a no chance, totally ignorant, half assed run for public office is as big a farce as you are. You should be prosecuted for fraud wasting public assistance money that is supposed to be feeding you and keeping you in clean fruit of the looms on ads and filing fees.


Quite frankly I am surprised you can break suction from the teat of governmental generosity to even speak. If it were not against the law I would come to the library and kick you right square in your hemorrhoid scar for wasting oxygen. But then again I could view it as "civil disobedience" like you did when you broke the law and spray painted the court house, or state house, or violated a court order to pay your support, couldn't I? If you can selectively ignore laws why can't everyone else?

 

[Ken King]

Stopping the reckless growth will be beneficial to all residents and I would add that stopping the senseless growth will be beneficial to the Navy too. The Navy now knows that the growth is excessive and harmful to the community. It is only being done through the horrible political pressure of our political representatives through Bohanan in 29b. When I am elected then all the population will benefit.

You are such an idiot. First, Bohanon has not one damn thing to do with what projects the Department of the Navy requests funding for or get sent to Patuxent River. Next, what is excessive growth, a couple of hundred people moving in or thousands? Best I can tell is that we will only be receiving a few hundred at the most for these projects. How many are simply moving down here to escape the DC area? Of the three counties our rate of growth is the lowest so how can you say it is excessive?

KK and Bohanan have surrendered to the growth but I will put a dead stop to it. It is time to rise and to fight and not to give in to more defeatism.

Unlike you I have never surrendered a damn thing. I did not surrender my manhood when I supported my children after divorce or when I sought and obtained custody of them, it wasn't about paying what they were due, it was for their betterment. And I certainly won’t surrender my livelihood to a dead-beat, non-working scum sucking bottom feeding jerk like you.

I do not want to accommadate the growth anymore at all. By accommodating it now we have overcrowded schools and crammed overfull jail and super high property prices and more. I say it is time we stop the accommadations and take back control of our home. The Navy Base is a guest in our home and when I get elected then we will stop being its servants to our own detriment.

The schools are not overcrowded, this is nothing but a myth that you are trying to perpetuate. The jails might be overcrowded, but it is not from population growth it is from criminals that think they are above the law or refuse to comply with the law just like you did.

And get off this crap that the Navy is a guest, they are no such thing. They are an integral part of our community providing a hell of a lot more benefit then burden. Matter of fact they have been here longer and more consistent then you so if anything it is you that is the guest. Do you think you would have that nice air-conditioned library with those computers if it wasn’t for the fact that the base brought the economy down here to be taxed and reaped from?

We do not need to beg for anything and we can take care of ourselves. I have faith in the value of our home - St. Mary's County - and our value does not have to be in servitude to a Navy Base with out-of-control growth that overloads our entire infrastructure. But that is only if I get elected because if KK and John Bohanan continue then we will remain servants in our own home.

Without the base and the tax base it brings to the county and state our representatives would be crawling on their knees begging for every single dime sent this way. You are just too stupid to realize this and are used to begging for your existence. You are not qualified to represent a tick that is sucking blood from the scrotum of a dog.

Another thing you don’t understand is that you are seeking a position of servitude. What you are seeking is public service which means you have to set aside your personal desires for the benefit of those you represent. This is something you seem unwilling and incapable of doing.

I am proud of the service I perform for the Navy and my nation. I know the contribution that I make, it is one that helps protect us by giving our forces the very best equipment to use when and should the need arise. The fact that this offends you further makes you not worthy of the position you seek.