Bush administration loses Guantánamo ruling

[nhboy]

"A federal appeals court ruled against the Bush administration Friday in a central case on Guantánamo detainees, declining to reconsider an order that the government has to turn over virtually all its information on many detainees.

Unless the Justice Department obtains a stay, the decision, from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, will clear the way for detainees' lawyers to press 180 appeals cases of inmates at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, challenging their detentions. The cases contest decisions by military panels that the men are properly held as unlawful enemy combatants.

In the new decision, Chief Judge Douglas Ginsburg of the appellate court wrote that letting the government withhold information on detainees from their lawyers and the court "would render utterly meaningless judicial review" of the military panels' decisions.

The full appeals court, in a 5-5 decision, declined to reconsider a decision last year by a three-judge panel from that court. A majority vote was needed to reconsider.

Susan Baker Manning, a lawyer for detainees, said the ruling would force the government to disclose what it knows about detainees, rather than holding men indefinitely on generalizations and secret accusations.

"The sun is about to shine at Guantánamo," Manning said."

Bush administration loses Guantánamo ruling - International Herald Tribune

 

[vraiblonde]

It's frightening to me that an American lawyer would represent foreign terrorists who are accused of trying to harm our country. It's even more frightening when activist judges bestow Constitutional rights of US citizens on foreign military prisoners.

We can argue that since the prisoners are being held on what amounts to US soil, they should be afforded the same rights as any other US prisoner. However, then you have fun things like "diplomatic immunity" that say our laws do not apply to foreigners who happen to be in our country.

It's very sad.

 

[Mikeinsmd]

I think they should all be released to Susan Baker Mannings custody.

 

[vraiblonde]

I think they should all be released to Susan Baker Mannings custody.

I'll go you one better:

I think, when a defense attorney gets a client off, if the client goes on to commit another crime, that defense attorney should be held liable. I might even include the judge and jury members in that as well.

So if these guys go free due to this lawyer's defense tactics, then get busted later on engaging in terrorist activity, she should be executed for treason.

 

[Lenny]

I think they should all be released to Susan Baker Mannings custody.

That's all they need. Adding over 300 rag heads to all those rump humpers in San Francisco. Bet Cindy Sheehan could get their votes if the Navy hurries up and moves them to California in time for the primaries.

 

[cattitude]

Susan Baker Manning

 

[AK-74me]

To me this is what it means to be a "Dumb American" every other country in the world knows they can take advantage of the PC BS alot of our country submits to. We are the perfect enemy for the radical terrorists that he face today because they know full and well how to take advantage of "our" stupidity.

 

[ImnoMensa]

This isnt a loss to the Bush administration its a loss to the world.

However as long as a shyster attorney gets their fee from Middle-eastern interests everything is allright. A lot of shyster's will get rich off of this .

Its all about the money to them,they could care less who these people murder when they get loose.

This Manning scumbag attorney doesnt care about the sun shining in Guantanomo all she is worried about is lining her pocket with blood money.

This is the fallacy of taking prisoners.

 

[chernmax]

If D-Day were reported by todays media...


June 6, 1944. -NORMANDY- Three hundred French civilians were killed and thousands more wounded today in the first hours of America’s invasion of continental Europe. Casualties were heaviest among women and children.

Most of the French casualties were the result of the artillery fire from American ships attempting to knock out German fortifications prior to the landing of hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops. Reports from a makeshift hospital in the French town of St. Mere Eglise said the carnage was far worse than the French had anticipated and reaction against the American invasion was running high. “We are dying for no reason,” said a Frenchman speaking on condition of anonymity. “Americans can’t even shoot straight. I never thought I’d say this, but life was better under Adolph Hitler.”

The invasion also caused severe environmental damage. American troops, tanks, trucks and machinery destroyed miles of pristine shoreline and thousands of acres of ecologically sensitive wetlands. It was believed that the habitat of the spineless French crab was completely wiped out, threatening the species with extinction.

A representative of Greenpeace said his organization, which had tried to stall the invasion for over a year, was appalled at the destruction, but, not surprised. “This is just another example of how the military destroys the environment without a second thought, ” said Christine Moanmore. “And it’s all about corporate greed.”

Contacted at his Manhattan condo, a member of the French government-in-exile who abandoned Paris when Hitler invaded said the invasion was based solely on American financial interests. “Everyone knows the President Roosevelt has ties to big beer,” said Pierre LeWimp. “Once the German beer industry is conquered, Roosevelt’s beer cronies will control the world market and make a fortune.”

Administration supporters said America’s aggressive actions were based in part on the assertions of controversial scientist Albert Einstein, who sent a letter to Roosevelt speculating that the Germans were developing a secret weapon, a so-called “atomic bomb.” Such a weapon could produce casualties on a scale never seen before and cause environmental damage that could last for thousands of years.

Hitler has denied having such a weapon and international inspectors were unable to locate such weapons even after spending two long weekends in Germany. Shortly after the invasion began reports surfaced that German prisoners had been abused by Americans. Mistreatment of Jews by Germans at so- called “concentration camps” has been rumored but so far, remains unproven.

Several thousand Americans died during the first hours of the invasion and French officials are concerned that uncollected corpses pose a public health risk. “The Americans should have planned for this in advance,” they said. “It’s their mess and we don’t intend to clean it up.”

I’m glad the soldiers who fought and died so bravely on D-Day and throughout World War II did so decades ago. In the 1940s war was hell, but at least our troops didn’t have to fight the media folks back home.

 

[Bustem' Down]

I'll go you one better:

I think, when a defense attorney gets a client off, if the client goes on to commit another crime, that defense attorney should be held liable. I might even include the judge and jury members in that as well.

So if these guys go free due to this lawyer's defense tactics, then get busted later on engaging in terrorist activity, she should be executed for treason.

Bad idea, Jury members would convict anyone who goes to court just to cover thier azz.

 

[RadioPatrol]

how the #### did they get defense lawyers anyway - that could / would ba able to file petitions here in Federal Court .......



they need to load these #######s on planes and ship them out somewhere quiet ... maybe just keep them in a RORO in the middle of the pacific