Cage used to restrain autistic boy at school become public

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Bann

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This was in Austrailia.

It still DOES NOT MAKE IT right, but a couple of the articles mentioned say it was used as a "withdrawal space" or a "time out". Still doesn't make it right, and parents are outraged at how long this investigation is taking.



More articles:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-...egedly-put-in-cage-at-canberra-school/6368138

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-...information-on-canberra-cage-boy-inve/6552066

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-08/canberra-boy-in-the-cage-autism-report-released/6758582
 

Roman

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This was in Austrailia.

It still DOES NOT MAKE IT right, but a couple of the articles mentioned say it was used as a "withdrawal space" or a "time out". Still doesn't make it right, and parents are outraged at how long this investigation is taking.



More articles:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-...egedly-put-in-cage-at-canberra-school/6368138

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-...information-on-canberra-cage-boy-inve/6552066

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-08/canberra-boy-in-the-cage-autism-report-released/6758582
Some autistic people are pretty darn strong, and when they become agitated, it can take more than one person to restrain them. This school might not have had the manpower. I am not saying this is right, but let's think of the safety of the other children while this child is having a meltdown.
 

SoMDGirl42

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Some people had no issues with handcuffing an 8 year old who was SITTING IN A CHAIR crying. Guess they should have built that kid a jail cell so when he throws his fit they can throw him in the time out cell.
 

Misfit

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We had a stained plywood box about 5’ tall when I was a kid and a hardwood paddle. The box was hinged so it could fold to be moved and it had a hasp to lock it. I wish it had bars so I could’ve seen out but I’d have just made faces at everyone. The box just let me tap Morse code S.O.S. that I’d learned from my Dick Tracy detective toy pack until they paddled me.
 
We had a stained plywood box about 5’ tall when I was a kid and a hardwood paddle. The box was hinged so it could fold to be moved and it had a hasp to lock it. I wish it had bars so I could’ve seen out but I’d have just made faces at everyone. The box just let me tap Morse code S.O.S. that I’d learned from my Dick Tracy detective toy pack until they paddled me.
Your structured childhood must be why you being crated by your wife when she leaves the house or needs "her time" is so successful.
 

vraiblonde

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We had a stained plywood box about 5’ tall when I was a kid and a hardwood paddle. The box was hinged so it could fold to be moved and it had a hasp to lock it. I wish it had bars so I could’ve seen out but I’d have just made faces at everyone. The box just let me tap Morse code S.O.S. that I’d learned from my Dick Tracy detective toy pack until they paddled me.

Well what were they supposed to do with you when you wouldn't behave?
 

Misfit

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Your structured childhood must be why you being crated by your wife when she leaves the house or needs "her time" is so successful.

It's my safe place. :ohwell:

Well what were they supposed to do with you when you wouldn't behave?

I'm definitely not against it. I was out of control sometimes but they didn't have a name for it back then, well my dad had a name for it, I believe he called me "little sh!t".
 
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Hodr

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We had a stained plywood box about 5’ tall when I was a kid and a hardwood paddle. The box was hinged so it could fold to be moved and it had a hasp to lock it. I wish it had bars so I could’ve seen out but I’d have just made faces at everyone. The box just let me tap Morse code S.O.S. that I’d learned from my Dick Tracy detective toy pack until they paddled me.

Maybe people are upset that the cage is a literal cage. When I was a kid if you were being sequestered they put you in a spare room in the office. The office was built from concrete and cinder blocks, and the doors were metal. So in my opinion it was more effective than a cage, but didn't have the same symbolism.
 

Roman

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Some people had no issues with handcuffing an 8 year old who was SITTING IN A CHAIR crying. Guess they should have built that kid a jail cell so when he throws his fit they can throw him in the time out cell.
That is a little different scenario SoMDGirl. Some of the autistic kids are huge, and when they have a meltdown, it can get ugly. Most are stronger than the average person. Again, let me say that I am NOT defending the jail cell method of control. When I worked in primary care medicine, we had a 9 year-old child that took six adults to hold down when we were drawing his blood. Six adults!
 

SoMDGirl42

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That is a little different scenario SoMDGirl. Some of the autistic kids are huge, and when they have a meltdown, it can get ugly. Most are stronger than the average person. Again, let me say that I am NOT defending the jail cell method of control. When I worked in primary care medicine, we had a 9 year-old child that took six adults to hold down when we were drawing his blood. Six adults!

I have an autistic grandchild. I know what they are capable of. I also don't believe that little 8 year old required handcuffs from a 200 plus pound deputy with a gun.
 
I have an autistic grandchild. I know what they are capable of. I also don't believe that little 8 year old required handcuffs from a 200 plus pound deputy with a gun.
It sounds like you would rather have had the deputy pull his gun or sit on the kid.
 

Roman

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I have an autistic grandchild. I know what they are capable of. I also don't believe that little 8 year old required handcuffs from a 200 plus pound deputy with a gun.
As I said...I am familiar with the 8 year-old case, that was horrible. I also said that I didn't agree with the cage. You aren't the only one that is familiar with autism, so if you want to pick on somebody, take it out on someone else.
 

SoMDGirl42

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As I said...I am familiar with the 8 year-old case, that was horrible. I also said that I didn't agree with the cage. You aren't the only one that is familiar with autism, so if you want to pick on somebody, take it out on someone else.

I wasn't picking on anyone. I was stating an opinion. My opinion. It wasn't directed at you.
 
doesn't matter what I say, it will be twisted and turned around to make me look bad. Just the way it goes. :shrug:
I'm trying to understand what their options are if physical restraint isn't the answer.

In this case, this 8 year old girl has already thrown punches at more than one adult and trashed two classrooms before finally being restrained...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...1e40b6-3bba-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html

In the case of the 8 year old boy you were posting about he was restrained in handcuffs for 15 minutes after attempting to punch the cop. The cuffs were taken off after the boy settled down.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/watch-ky-handcuffs-8-year-old-disability-article-1.2313908

There are 50,000 plus physical restraints of kids with disabilities in schools each year due to their uncontrollable outburst. I am asking what the school is supposed to do when a child is in a fit of violence and destruction if physical restraint is not to be an option.
 
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