Can We Talk About Joe Biden's Horrible Choice to Give Putin a List of Things Not to Cyberattack?

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member


We have questions.

Did Biden make Putin pinky swear, cross his heart and hope to die if he attacks items on the list anyway?

Does that list allow Putin a free hand to go and cyberattack anything in the United States that isn’t on it? “You didn’t put it on list, comrade, so we hack it,” Putin chuckles as he text Xi with a string of laughing emojis.

On what planet is it a good idea to give a potential adversary a list of things you do not want him to attack?

When you play Risk, the classic game of world conquest, do you give your competitors a list of countries you don’t want them to attack? Would you expect them to abide by that?

When you play Stratego, the classic strategy war game of intrigue, do you tell your opponent where your spies and bombs are? Do you honestly expect to win if you do that?

When you run for office, do you go meet with your competitor and hand them a list of the skeletons in your closet with a plea not to go after them? Would you expect any of those items to not end up in the media within a nanosecond?


 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Well Joe. It's called the World Wide Web.
That means that anyone with a computer can launch just about anything they have the capability of launching.

Joe assumes that Russia can control every person in Russia who owns a computer.
He assumes that these attacks came from the Government in Russia, and perhaps they did.
But before you start a war---------------------Prove it.

I doubt Russia is launching ransomware attacks for a few bucks worth of Bitcoin.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
I doubt Russia is launching ransomware attacks for a few bucks worth of Bitcoin.

Hackers Cyber Crimnals are not going to be doing what they are doing without the tacit approval of some Oligarch or higher ups in the Russian Gov.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Hackers Cyber Crimnals are not going to be doing what they are doing without the tacit approval of some Oligarch or higher ups in the Russian Gov.
That is like saying American hackers--cyber criminals-- have the approval of higher ups in the American Government.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
I do not think so ..... Russia is not a free society

Like Chinese Hackers ... operate with the approval and probably direction of the Chinese Communist Party
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
Well Joe. It's called the World Wide Web.
That means that anyone with a computer can launch just about anything they have the capability of launching.

Joe assumes that Russia can control every person in Russia who owns a computer.
He assumes that these attacks came from the Government in Russia, and perhaps they did.
But before you start a war---------------------Prove it.

I doubt Russia is launching ransomware attacks for a few bucks worth of Bitcoin.
But North Korea would
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Well Joe. It's called the World Wide Web.
That means that anyone with a computer can launch just about anything they have the capability of launching.

Joe assumes that Russia can control every person in Russia who owns a computer.
He assumes that these attacks came from the Government in Russia, and perhaps they did.
But before you start a war---------------------Prove it.

I doubt Russia is launching ransomware attacks for a few bucks worth of Bitcoin.
The money means less than the chaos that ensues. "Hacking the beef supplier- 50,000 rubles. Hacking the pipeline - 100,000 rubles...... making the American govt look like ineffectual fools who cannot protect their infrastructure? Priceless."

Vlad doesn't care about money, like all diehard soviets, he views it as a tool. What he does care about is making Russia seem strong. If Us based atackers were to do the same, we caring far more about looking like Mr. Nice and Cuddly Superpower these days, would leave no stone unturned until we found them. Vlad probably gave his a bonus. Privateers if you like.
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member


We have questions.

Did Biden make Putin pinky swear, cross his heart and hope to die if he attacks items on the list anyway?

Does that list allow Putin a free hand to go and cyberattack anything in the United States that isn’t on it? “You didn’t put it on list, comrade, so we hack it,” Putin chuckles as he text Xi with a string of laughing emojis.

On what planet is it a good idea to give a potential adversary a list of things you do not want him to attack?

When you play Risk, the classic game of world conquest, do you give your competitors a list of countries you don’t want them to attack? Would you expect them to abide by that?

When you play Stratego, the classic strategy war game of intrigue, do you tell your opponent where your spies and bombs are? Do you honestly expect to win if you do that?

When you run for office, do you go meet with your competitor and hand them a list of the skeletons in your closet with a plea not to go after them? Would you expect any of those items to not end up in the media within a nanosecond?


Did Biden* do it with a "wink, wink, nudge, nudge"?

 

22AcaciaAve

Well-Known Member
That seems rather stupid. By making a list of things that are off-limits to cyber-attack, you are implicitly saying it is ok to cyber-attack anything not on the list. Would they do the same with potential bombing targets?
 

Louise

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
That seems rather stupid. By making a list of things that are off-limits to cyber-attack, you are implicitly saying it is ok to cyber-attack anything not on the list. Would they do the same with potential bombing targets?
It is not rather stupid. It is part of the take down of the USA by the elitists, who think they won’t be affected. They better think again. Patriots will not give up their freedom without a fight. :patriot:
 
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