Catholic Endorsement.

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The big pic.

I answered that here.What riddle? It's a simple question. Where does the authority come from?
:whistle: That post is just contradicting what I said / posted and I stand by my words as true and mine are correct.

I have no other answer to your contradiction then to tell you to contradict your self back and there is the correct answer.

Riddle me this :

What is it that you claim is some concern of mine and yours that you say the US gov does not have the authority to do?

I have already said - and here say again, that I support every issue on the questionnaire.
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hvp05

Methodically disorganized
I am glad I don't have to answer that...

I have no other answer to your contradiction then to tell you to contradict your self back and there is the correct answer.

What is it that you claim is some concern of mine and yours that you say the US gov does not have the authority to do?
... because what you posted above is confusing and there would be no way for me to give an honest answer, and I would not want to play your mentally-defective little games. :crazy:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Where does the authority come from for the things you support?
Questionnaire for 2008 Candidates for the United States House of Representatives.

INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE & PEACE:

Will you support or oppose significant annual increases in poverty-focused development assistance to reduce global poverty and increase the percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) contributed in foreign aid?

Support __________ Oppose ___________

HEALTH CARE:

Do you support or oppose legislation to reform our healthcare system to ensure there is affordable, accessible
health care for all, especially for poor families with children and for persons with disabilities?


Support __________ Oppose ___________


IMMIGRATION:

Do you support or oppose legislation that would permit undocumented aliens who have been living in the United States for a number of years and who do not have criminal records to earn legal status by paying fines, paying back taxes, and agreeing to learn English?

Support __________ Oppose ___________


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My answer to each of these questions is that I check "Support" for all the questions above.

In fact I would push for more than they ask.
Would you please provide the Constitutional basis for using tax dollars for the first two above?

Also, if coming into the country ILLEGALLY is a crime, what "undocumented" illegal aliens are here without already being criminals?


Thanks!
 
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Giantone

New Member
:whistle: I really do not see why you would say that, and you are not correct.

I go out of my way to be truthful and as honest and open as I can.

My own religious beliefs make lying more then just a sin because a lie is a weakness and self-destructive and a person that lies just cheats one-self more then it hurts others.

I am not only telling the full truth to the Catholic Church questionnaire but I will actively fight for the points if I get elected and I really want more FAR more then what they ask for.

I do not lie to my son and his mother saw right through me even when I tried to lie. I use to lie before I got my religion some 25 years ago.

My disability status I got only after going to many Doctors and many testings and before an administrative Judge that decided my disability on the evidence and I told the cold hard truth there too.

I truly do have severe injuries and I do try to hide the injuries from the public view.

Some others might not like my political and religious positions but I am telling the truth as I understand the truth to be and that is no lie.

You need to read what you post becuase you just lied again!:shortbus::moon::loser:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Where does the authority come from for the things you support?
Questionnaire for 2008 Candidates for the United States House of Representatives.

INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE & PEACE:

Will you support or oppose significant annual increases in poverty-focused development assistance to reduce global poverty and increase the percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) contributed in foreign aid?

Support __________ Oppose ___________

HEALTH CARE:

Do you support or oppose legislation to reform our healthcare system to ensure there is affordable, accessible
health care for all, especially for poor families with children and for persons with disabilities?


Support __________ Oppose ___________


IMMIGRATION:

Do you support or oppose legislation that would permit undocumented aliens who have been living in the United States for a number of years and who do not have criminal records to earn legal status by paying fines, paying back taxes, and agreeing to learn English?

Support __________ Oppose ___________


===========================
My answer to each of these questions is that I check "Support" for all the questions above.

In fact I would push for more than they ask.
Would you please provide the Constitutional basis for using tax dollars for the first two above?

Also, if coming into the country ILLEGALLY is a crime, what "undocumented" illegal aliens are here without already being criminals?


Thanks!
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The big pic.

Where does the authority come from for the things you support?

Would you please provide the Constitutional basis for using tax dollars for the first two above?
:blahblah: There simply is no more that I am willing to give to you because you are ignoring my repeated answers to you on this same question.

I gave direct specific answers to that question in post #24 and again post #31 and again in #46 and ask you to clarify in #62 and yet T_p just repeats the same dead questions here and that is all I can do.

That T_p does not like my answer or does not agree with my answer or even if he does not understand the words - it still leaves me with my part is done and if he wants to baddger his same dead question over and over then I can not stop him.
Also, if coming into the country ILLEGALLY is a crime, what "undocumented" illegal aliens are here without already being criminals?


Thanks!
:diva: The migrants are considered as "criminals" by some people and thus the point of giving the "documentation" which will make the migrants into NOT being called "criminals" any more.

The point of giving "documentation" is to nulify that kind of accusation given here by T_p.
:larry:
 

Giantone

New Member
:blahblah: There simply is no more that I am willing to give to you because you are ignoring my repeated answers to you on this same question.

I gave direct specific answers to that question in post #24 and again post #31 and again in #46 and ask you to clarify in #62 and yet T_p just repeats the same dead questions here and that is all I can do.

That T_p does not like my answer or does not agree with my answer or even if he does not understand the words - it still leaves me with my part is done and if he wants to baddger his same dead question over and over then I can not stop him.:diva: The migrants are considered as "criminals" by some people and thus the point of giving the "documentation" which will make the migrants into NOT being called "criminals" any more.

The point of giving "documentation" is to nulify that kind of accusation given here by T_p.
:larry:


Point is you're and A$$ an an idiot.:killingme
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
That T_p does not like my answer or does not agree with my answer or even if he does not understand the words - it still leaves me with my part is done and if he wants to baddger his same dead question over and over then I can not stop him.
Hey Jimmy, I agree with you!

TP should accept the answer you gave that the authority comes from the voters; once they have elected a representative, that representative should be allowed to do whatever they wish, regardless of an idea's constitutionality or whether the people support it or not.

You should tell him to take his Constitution and stuff it, since you clearly believe it is a pointless document that does not apply to you now, and would not apply if you gained political position. :yay:


JPC sr said:
The migrants are considered as "criminals" by some people and thus the point of giving the "documentation" which will make the migrants into NOT being called "criminals" any more.
I already responded to this once, but maybe you missed it...
You do realize, the system for every "migrant" to acquire documentation is already established. Again, you aim to make the situation worse by allowing them all in.
I think, if you wish to alter the system that has already been established, you could demand that a specific boundary be determined between our country and our neighbors - since it would be silly to give the immigrants documentation if there was only a nebulous, undefined boundary. You could call this boundary a... border.

Then, you could set up a group to monitor this border in order to make sure that everyone crossing gets the necessary paperwork, crosses safely, and no one tries to abuse the system. I think an appropriate name for such a group would be the... border patrol.

Lastly, since the federal government is ordained with the power to oversee this whole operation, they should employ some officials to distribute the outgoing and process the incoming paperwork. Perhaps this government operation could be named the... Immigration and Naturalization Service, since they would be registering immigrants, and "naturalization" was the Constitutional term used. To complete the process, an immigrant would need to be... "naturalized".

Well, now I think you've got some good ideas rolling here, Jimmy! :cheers:

Only one thing... all of those things are also part of the current establishment. So I guess the problem is that not enough people respect our system. Would you be willing to stand up and support the system, and insist that all immigrants follow this system, candidate? I mean, you said you want everyone to be documented, and everything I stated above - already in place with the current system - was extrapolated from your core belief, so surely, you should completely stand behind the system... right, candidate?

If that's not what you meant, could you detail what you do want, so we may all be completely informed?
 
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This_person

Well-Known Member
There simply is no more that I am willing to give to you because you are ignoring my repeated answers to you on this same question.

I gave direct specific answers to that question in post #24 and again post #31 and again in #46 and ask you to clarify in #62 and yet T_p just repeats the same dead questions here and that is all I can do.
Actually, the only answer you gave was in number 24. The rest were not answers.
Since such expenditures are already being done and have been done for very many years then the precedant permits such expenditures whether you or I find specific wording in the Constitution or not.

The only meaningful task would be if you or anyone can show and enforce a part of the Constitution that would deny such expenditures and I am not about to seek after that.

I have my own agenda and your claim is no part of mine.
So, I answered you with a showing that the expenditures were denied. That left you scrambling like a chicken with it's head cut off, and now you can't provide anything more meaningful than saying you've already answered.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
The point of giving "documentation" is to nulify that kind of accusation given here by T_p.
Fair enough, you want to de-criminalize the crime - off amnesty to people who took action they knew to be criminal at the time.

Why is that fair to the millions that followed the rules?
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The big pic.

Fair enough, you want to de-criminalize the crime - off amnesty to people who took action they knew to be criminal at the time.

Why is that fair to the millions that followed the rules?
:diva: I do not see anything "fair" or "unfair" about it.

It is just a solution for a problem.
:coffee:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
:diva: I do not see anything "fair" or "unfair" about it.

It is just a solution for a problem
You don't think it's unfair for those who have waited and followed the proper procedures (ie, legal immigrants) to be shoved back behind those that broke the law to steal the immigrant's place in line (ie, the illegal alien)?
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
I do not see anything "fair" or "unfair" about it.
That is somewhat uncharacteristic of you, as a Liberal. You should be whining that following procedure is unfair to the illegals, and they should be allowed to come and go as they please.

Take away the crime, and everything is automatically "fair". Right, Jimmy?
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The big pic.

You don't think it's unfair for those who have waited and followed the proper procedures (ie, legal immigrants) to be shoved back behind those that broke the law to steal the immigrant's place in line (ie, the illegal alien)?
:coffee: There is nothing unfair about coming into the USA under the immigration law.

Those are not being "shoved back" at all.

In fact it would not affect legal immigration in any way.

Thus there is no "unfairness" at all that I can see.

A win - win solution for everybody concerned. :yahoo:
 

Giantone

New Member
:coffee: There is nothing unfair about coming into the USA under the immigration law.

Those are not being "shoved back" at all.

In fact it would not affect legal immigration in any way.

Thus there is no "unfairness" at all that I can see.

A win - win solution for everybody concerned.

Look at other place's, and other immagrants besides South Americans.Any law would affect them also you Moron!!!:smack:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
:coffee: There is nothing unfair about coming into the USA under the immigration law.
Okay, I know you're not very swift, so I'll try and give this to you in a manner you can understand:

Jose is here because he violated American sovereignty, violated the border laws, violated the immigration rules. He came over in the back of his buddy's semi-truck, illegally. Jose is an illegal immigrant.

Manuel is in Mexico, waiting. He applied seven months ago to be a legal alien in the USA, because he's trying to better his life and his family's lives. Manuel is trying to follow all the rules, so that he's not violating any laws.

Manuel's family does not get the advantages that Jose's family got from Jose's illegal actions.

Jose broke the law. Jose has therefore proven to be the type of person who sees the laws as something not important - he's a rule breaker, with no respect for the laws. He's statistically the type of person who will violate more laws, since he's already shown he will willingly violate laws.

If we reward this illegal, immoral, disrespectful, improper action by Jose with amnesty for his horrible action, we have less room for honest, trustworth immigrants like Manuel because we gave the dishonest, untrustworthy Jose Manuel's spot. Why should Manuel be someone we keep waiting, but Jose be someone we reward?
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
Okay, I know you're not very swift, so I'll try and give this to you in a manner you can understand:
You still will not be successful.

You spoke to JPC as if he respects the law, and you know his track record on that. :shrug:
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
The big pic.

Okay, I know you're not very swift, so I'll try and give this to you in a manner you can understand:

Jose is here because he violated American sovereignty, violated the border laws, violated the immigration rules. He came over in the back of his buddy's semi-truck, illegally. Jose is an illegal immigrant.

Manuel is in Mexico, waiting. He applied seven months ago to be a legal alien in the USA, because he's trying to better his life and his family's lives. Manuel is trying to follow all the rules, so that he's not violating any laws.

Manuel's family does not get the advantages that Jose's family got from Jose's illegal actions.

Jose broke the law. Jose has therefore proven to be the type of person who sees the laws as something not important - he's a rule breaker, with no respect for the laws. He's statistically the type of person who will violate more laws, since he's already shown he will willingly violate laws.

If we reward this illegal, immoral, disrespectful, improper action by Jose with amnesty for his horrible action, we have less room for honest, trustworth immigrants like Manuel because we gave the dishonest, untrustworthy Jose Manuel's spot.


Why should Manuel be someone we keep waiting, but Jose be someone we reward?
:bigwhoop: I see what you wrote as bigoted and prejuducial but I will try to reply anyway.

The fact that one migrant (Manuel as T_p calls him) comes in through the process available to him,

and the other migrant (Jose as T_p calls him) comes in though the harder way which is the way available to him,

then there is no extra or pretense of a "reward" as T_p claims since both got exactly what each worked for and that is just the way it is.

In my opinion, most if not all of the migration problems would be solved if we took just ten percent (10 %) of what the USA is mis-using in the wars of conquest and occupation and used that money (only 10 % of it) for economic aid to Mexico and South America and neither Manuel nor Jose would even migrate to the USA at all.

The USA is acting like a selfish greed driven Country with our next door neighbors being neglected and kept down, and at the same time the USA is mis-using our great prosperity in pushing our military beligerance on the other side of the earth where we are not needed nor wanted.

It is not a victory nor a reward for the persons to migrate to this Country out of their own homelands.

All the migrants want is a little prosperity in the form of a job.

If we took the big money that might create a fence on the USA borders and the money for extra security and for more jail space etc., and correctly used that money in economic aid then the migrants will stop before getting to the USA and if our southern neighbor Countries were to prosper marginally then many migrants already here in the USA (legally and illegal) would pack their bags and go back to their real homes where they would prefer to be in the first place.

The migration to the USA is being compared to a "victory" and a "reward" because those migrants are being improperly exploited.
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