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foodcritic

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I never really gave this much thought but it makes for a interesting read.


'Deception': Christians war over worship day

By Joe Kovacs
© 2008 WorldNetDaily



This sign at the Mesa Avenue Church of Christ in Grand Junction, Colo., is typical of churches announcing their worship services on Sunday.

Two thousand years after Jesus walked the Earth, Christians are at war with each other concerning – as strange as it may sound – a day of the week mentioned in the Ten Commandments.

The issue boils down to: "When is God's Sabbath?" In other words, what is His holy day of rest?


Most Christians today think it's Sunday, when the majority of churches hold services.

But others confidently say it's Saturday, calling Sunday worship "the most flagrant error of mainstream Christianity," believing Sunday-keepers are victims of clever deception.
 
SamSpade

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I used to go to a church that explained it about as simply as possible.

The Sabbath is the seventh day of the week. By Jewish reckoning, Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. Period. The name itself means to rest or cease, in honor of God's creation after six days.

The Lord's Day - the day people met to break bread - is the same as the day of the week Jesus rose - the first day of the week. Period.

There's really no way of confusing it - even if you go sundown to sundown for the Sabbath, you just don't get any part of it on Sunday.

I've heard people claim that Sunday is the "Christian" Sabbath. And therein hangs the tale - they're claiming that somehow it got "moved".

But Christians don't HAVE a "Sabbath". In fact, it's really just tradition to meet on the Lord's Day. There's no particular reason why it couldn't be held any day.

As logically as I can see it, anyone who claims that Sunday is the Sabbath is wrong twice, because it's not Sunday, and Christians don't celebrate it.
 
2ndAmendment

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SamSpade said:
I used to go to a church that explained it about as simply as possible.

The Sabbath is the seventh day of the week. By Jewish reckoning, Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. Period. The name itself means to rest or cease, in honor of God's creation after six days.

The Lord's Day - the day people met to break bread - is the same as the day of the week Jesus rose - the first day of the week. Period.

There's really no way of confusing it - even if you go sundown to sundown for the Sabbath, you just don't get any part of it on Sunday.

I've heard people claim that Sunday is the "Christian" Sabbath. And therein hangs the tale - they're claiming that somehow it got "moved".

But Christians don't HAVE a "Sabbath". In fact, it's really just tradition to meet on the Lord's Day. There's no particular reason why it couldn't be held any day.

As logically as I can see it, anyone who claims that Sunday is the Sabbath is wrong twice, because it's not Sunday, and Christians don't celebrate it.
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What does the Bible say regarding the Sabbath and the day of regard for Christians?
Matthew 12:1-13

Sabbath Questions
1At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat.

2But when the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, "Look, Your disciples do what is not lawful to do on a Sabbath."

3But He said to them, "Have you not read what David did when he became hungry, he and his companions,

4how he entered the house of God, and they ate the consecrated bread, which was not lawful for him to eat nor for those with him, but for the priests alone?

5"Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the Sabbath and are innocent?

6"But I say to you that something greater than the temple is here.

7"But if you had known what this means, 'I DESIRE COMPASSION, AND NOT A SACRIFICE,' you would not have condemned the innocent.
Lord of the Sabbath
8"For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."

9Departing from there, He went into their synagogue.

10And a man was there whose hand was withered. And they questioned Jesus, asking, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?"--so that they might accuse Him.

11And He said to them, "What man is there among you who has a sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will he not take hold of it and lift it out?

12"How much more valuable then is a man than a sheep! So then, it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."

13Then He said to the man, "Stretch out your hand!" He stretched it out, and it was restored to normal, like the other.
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Romans 14:4-6

4Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

5One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind.

6He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.
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I hold everyday is God's.
 
Starman3000m

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2ndAmendment said:
I hold everyday is God's.
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Amen!

All days should be considered holy in the life of a believer and we are to be in constant communication with God (personal prayer and worship) throughout the week - not just any one certain day.

Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 (King James Version)
 
Vince

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Catholic. Saturday, Sunday or both if you want. :shrug: And of course, Holy Days of Obligation, i.e. Good Friday, etc.
 
terbear1225

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SamSpade said:
I used to go to a church that explained it about as simply as possible.

The Sabbath is the seventh day of the week. By Jewish reckoning, Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. Period. The name itself means to rest or cease, in honor of God's creation after six days.

The Lord's Day - the day people met to break bread - is the same as the day of the week Jesus rose - the first day of the week. Period.

There's really no way of confusing it - even if you go sundown to sundown for the Sabbath, you just don't get any part of it on Sunday.

I've heard people claim that Sunday is the "Christian" Sabbath. And therein hangs the tale - they're claiming that somehow it got "moved".

But Christians don't HAVE a "Sabbath". In fact, it's really just tradition to meet on the Lord's Day. There's no particular reason why it couldn't be held any day.

As logically as I can see it, anyone who claims that Sunday is the Sabbath is wrong twice, because it's not Sunday, and Christians don't celebrate it.
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but according to many european/south american calendars, the first day of the week is Monday.
 
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libby

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Vince said:
Catholic. Saturday, Sunday or both if you want. :shrug: And of course, Holy Days of Obligation, i.e. Good Friday, etc.
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Holy Mass is celebrated every day, excepting a day off for the priest if there is only one at a parish.
Jesus did say that every time we celebrate the Lord's Supper we commemorate His Sacrifice. Seems good to do it daily.
 
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toppick08

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libby said:
Holy Mass is celebrated every day, excepting a day off for the priest if there is only one at a parish.
Jesus did say that every time we celebrate the Lord's Supper we commemorate His Sacrifice. Seems good to do it daily.
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Too bad I can't get it at your church, but you can receive it at mine...:coffee:
 
Vince

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libby said:
Holy Mass is celebrated every day, excepting a day off for the priest if there is only one at a parish.
Jesus did say that every time we celebrate the Lord's Supper we commemorate His Sacrifice. Seems good to do it daily.
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And I know this, but I can't make it daily. So I do what I can.
 
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libby

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Vince said:
And I know this, but I can't make it daily. So I do what I can.
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Well, I hope you know I wasn't suggesting that you should. People have different abilities to participate and I would never presume that everyone should be there daily.
 
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