Civil law vs. Morals...

[kom526]

I'll set the scene for you: A person gets evicted after foreclosure proceedings and the new owner of your home for years comes to move your stuff out next to the street. Now here comes the law vs. morals part, you can legally take the property that has been removed from the house, if the owner does not make any objections or is not present.
Legally you are in the clear but how could you deal with the guilt? To me this is no better than looting stores after a natural disaster etc. Have we as Americans become so desensitized that we would stoop to what to me amounts to stealing from our neighbors when they are obviously in dire straits?
What has happened to ethics and morality in this day and age? I am not calling for a return to petticoats and tophats, but a little common decency would be a refreshing change of pace.

 

[2ndAmendment]

The United States is lacking and has been lacking in moral ever since the ACLU started pushing to have God removed from public sight and succeeded in the public schools. We have generations that have grown up with little parenting and virtually no good morals. Society is reaping what they have sown.

 

[waupaca]

The United States is lacking and has been lacking in moral ever since the ACLU started pushing to have God removed from public sight and succeeded in the public schools. We have generations that have grown up with little parenting and virtually no good morals. Society is reaping what they have sown.

The only thing I take issue with your statement is that it takes God to make a person moral. I know atheists that are very moral persons and christians that don't practice what they preach. If God is not present in peoples homes what makes you think that he is in public schools. You want your children to know God you do it at home at in your church.

 

[Nickel]

The only thing I take issue with your statement is that it takes God to make a person moral. I know atheists that are very moral persons and christians that don't practice what they preach. If God is not present in peoples homes what makes you think that he is in public schools. You want your children to know God you do it at home at in your church.

I think it takes compassion to make a person moral.

 

[waupaca]

I agree. When you think about other people as well as your self you are alright.I guess that is called compassion.

 

[Chain729]

I think it takes compassion to make a person moral.

IMHO, I don't. I'm not very compassionate and I still have an a**-load of morals. IMHO, having morals for the sake of having morals is absurd. I believe that you should have morals because they mean something, and do you and those around you some good (which most of them do).

As far as civil law is concerned, I think its a joke. In that instance, I'd say taking the stuff was simply stealing. Why on earth, would it be legal to do so? As far as strictly moral matters are concerned, I don't believe the government should get involved at all. As long as my decisions aren't directly hurting someone else, what do you care what I do?

 

[vraiblonde]

The United States is lacking and has been lacking in moral ever since the ACLU started pushing to have God removed from public sight and succeeded in the public schools. We have generations that have grown up with little parenting and virtually no good morals. Society is reaping what they have sown.

Considering all the wars fought in the name of God and the folks bilked out of their nest eggs by televangelists, I don't think you can necessarily say that promoting God as a society encourages moral behavior.

Obviously it's not right for neighbors to steal furniture on the street. But is it right to go so far into financial straights that you have to be evicted from your home? Foreclosures and evictions take awhile - this isn't something that happens within a day or a week or a month. So these people knew they couldn't afford their home and they knew they were going to have to move. Rather than do it voluntarily and keep their dignity intact, they chose to wait until the cops threw their stuff out on the street.

By not paying their mortgage or rent, the tenants stole as well and I don't feel particularly sorry for them that they got their furniture stolen. They could have easily prevented that.

 

[Ken King]

Considering all the wars fought in the name of God and the folks bilked out of their nest eggs by televangelists, I don't think you can necessarily say that promoting God as a society encourages moral behavior.

Obviously it's not right for neighbors to steal furniture on the street. But is it right to go so far into financial straights that you have to be evicted from your home? Foreclosures and evictions take awhile - this isn't something that happens within a day or a week or a month. So these people knew they couldn't afford their home and they knew they were going to have to move. Rather than do it voluntarily and keep their dignity intact, they chose to wait until the cops threw their stuff out on the street.

By not paying their mortgage or rent, the tenants stole as well and I don't feel particularly sorry for them that they got their furniture stolen. They could have easily prevented that.

Is Larry on under your userid?

 

[vraiblonde]

Is Larry on under your userid?

Obviously not - everything's spelled correctly.

 

[Ken King]

Obviously not - everything's spelled correctly.

Oh My, I never noticed before, but you're right. Now I'll know the difference.

 

[kom526]

Considering all the wars fought in the name of God and the folks bilked out of their nest eggs by televangelists, I don't think you can necessarily say that promoting God as a society encourages moral behavior.

Obviously it's not right for neighbors to steal furniture on the street. But is it right to go so far into financial straights that you have to be evicted from your home? Foreclosures and evictions take awhile - this isn't something that happens within a day or a week or a month. So these people knew they couldn't afford their home and they knew they were going to have to move. Rather than do it voluntarily and keep their dignity intact, they chose to wait until the cops threw their stuff out on the street.

By not paying their mortgage or rent, the tenants stole as well and I don't feel particularly sorry for them that they got their furniture stolen. They could have easily prevented that.

The person in question has some mental issues...seriously.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Considering all the wars fought in the name of God and the folks bilked out of their nest eggs by televangelists, I don't think you can necessarily say that promoting God as a society encourages moral behavior.

Many things are done in the name of God that are not of God. Understand? Just because a human says do something in the name of God does not make it from God. If it does not stand up to the character of God, reject the idea and the person as not being from God. False prophets are supposed to be put to death. If people that "spoke for God" that really didn't were held to that standard, the practice might not be so prevalent. They will be ultimately held accountable.

Matthew 7:15-23



A Tree and Its Fruit

<sup id="en-NASB-23332">15</sup>"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. <sup id="en-NASB-23333">16</sup>"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?

<sup id="en-NASB-23334">17</sup>"So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.

<sup id="en-NASB-23335">18</sup>"A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.

<sup id="en-NASB-23336">19</sup>"Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

<sup id="en-NASB-23337">20</sup>"So then, you will know them by their fruits.

<sup id="en-NASB-23338">21</sup>"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

<sup id="en-NASB-23339">22</sup>"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'

<sup id="en-NASB-23340">23</sup>"And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'