Cleaning Up The Voter Rolls

[my-thyme]

Hey, look at us cleaning up our voter rolls!

Do you know what this envelope does?

Nothing. Zero. Nada.

......, please return....

No. Not happening. You want it returned, it needs an actual postal approved endorsement.

Person moved, dead, whatever and there is a forward on file, gets forwarded...if grandma died and the executor put a forward in, gets forwarded.

No forward, now it will be returned.

And all that only happens if the postal employee has been properly trained. Huh.

If they really wanted to do something, they would properly endorse it. And hey, put a return card inside that the recipient has to get active. Check a box, sign it, put your own damn stamp on it. Show that voting is important to you and you really WANT to vote.

I will give them credit for sending it first class mail. Used to be it was standard mail, got tossed if not deliverable as addressed. It 'may' have been me that brought that to our local board's attention.

(Kicking the soapbox out of my way so I can get on with my day.)

 

[stgislander]

Best of all, a reminder to apply for your mail-in ballot.

 

[RareBreed]

We got ours in Calvert Co yesterday. Immediately tossed.

 

[Kyle]

We got ours in Calvert Co yesterday. Immediately tossed.

You are interfereing with the election.

Those mail in ballots are critical for Marylands expatriates, felons and deceased voters to cast their ballot for Joe.

 

[RareBreed]

You are interfereing with the election.

Those mail in ballots are critical for Marylands expatriates, felons and deceased voters to cast their ballot for Joe.

Once I become one of those 3, I will send mine back in.

 

[Kyle]

Once I become one of those 3, I will send mine back in.

I'm sure there will be some purple-haired girl with a nose ring at your door to pick it up and ensure it's filled out "correctly" for processing.

 

[Hijinx]

Mail in ballots should he two witnesses sign as to their authenticity or be notarized,

 

[SamSpade]

Wow.

So let me get this right - they sent mail asking you to confirm that the person there is NOT an eligible voter?
If you ignore it, they're going to continue to assume that they ARE? What possible incentive could there be for you to tell them NO, nobody here by that name?

"Hey everybody GUILTY of not paying taxes - please raise your hand. Otherwise we will assume you did, and forget the whole thing"

This is first-rate stupid.

I agree, what SHOULD be done is, you should have to re-register every voting season. Or at least, every so many years. There's no reason whatsoever to keep you on the voter roll forever. Heck, even when the county selects JURORS, they pull in data disqualifying people who no longer live there.

 

[kwillia]

Wow.

So let me get this right - they sent mail asking you to confirm that the person there is NOT an eligible voter?
If you ignore it, they're going to continue to assume that they ARE? What possible incentive could there be for you to tell them NO, nobody here by that name?

"Hey everybody GUILTY of not paying taxes - please raise your hand. Otherwise we will assume you did, and forget the whole thing"

This is first-rate stupid.

I agree, what SHOULD be done is, you should have to re-register every voting season. Or at least, every so many years. There's no reason whatsoever to keep you on the voter roll forever. Heck, even when the county selects JURORS, they pull in data disqualifying people who no longer live there.

The letter inside was to inform me I could ask for a mail in ballot.

 

[Clem72]

I agree, what SHOULD be done is, you should have to re-register every voting season.

This is reasonable as long as they allow you to do it at the time of voting (ID + proof of residence). Not applicable for primaries.

 

[stgislander]

The letter inside was to inform me I could ask for a mail in ballot.

Must be for the Primaries. Wife got one (reg. Dem). I didn't.

 

[SamSpade]

This is reasonable as long as they allow you to do it at the time of voting (ID + proof of residence). Not applicable for primaries.

IF the people working the polls actually have the ability to verify - I've lived in regions where the crush of voters was so intense, poll workers just waved me in. This was the case when I lived in PG and voter lines went out the door until late in the evening. The poll workers there just wanted to go home.

OTHER places I've lived - they didn't even care about ID - they just asked for a NAME and see if that person voted already. SERIOUSLY. I could have given ANY name.

 

[Tech]

This is reasonable as long as they allow you to do it at the time of voting (ID + proof of residence). Not applicable for primaries.

You can currently register to vote at the polls. The problem may be that you don't know your proper precinct and by voting in the improper precinct it may be provisional. This is not a problem during the early vote because all 30 something ballots are available. This is a simple explanation; the exact procedure may vary by each voter and their circumstances.

 

[Grumpy]

OTHER places I've lived - they didn't even care about ID - they just asked for a NAME and see if that person voted already. SERIOUSLY. I could have given ANY name.

Exactly how its been in Calvert the last 2 or 3 elections.

 

[Clem72]

IF the people working the polls actually have the ability to verify

I'm not sure I think that would be an issue. Can't imagine any large scale effort to print up fake IDs and fake residency documents (phone bill or gas bill etc.) for every vote. One or two slip through the cracks, so be it. Probably still a win overall.

 

[Tech]

I'm not sure I think that would be an issue. Can't imagine any large scale effort to print up fake IDs and fake residency documents (phone bill or gas bill etc.) for every vote. One or two slip through the cracks, so be it. Probably still a win overall.

Wonder how many people used their REAL ID driver's license to verify voter requirements? and can the photo be linked to the pollbook?

 

[SamSpade]

I'm not sure I think that would be an issue. Can't imagine any large scale effort to print up fake IDs and fake residency documents (phone bill or gas bill etc.) for every vote. One or two slip through the cracks, so be it. Probably still a win overall.

I do know that - IIRC - a guy at Project Veritas went into DC and said he was Eric Holder - you know, the Attorney General at the time - and they let him pass.
He didn't VOTE as Eric Holder - that would be a crime.

Here it is --

Young white activist proves that without voter ID law, AG Eric Holder’s ballot easy to obtain

Video that James O’Keefe’s The Project Veritas released Monday morning shows a poll worker in Washington, D.C., offering a voter ID activist Attorney General Eric Holder’s ballot.

news.yahoo.com

As you can see, the poll worker was totally cool with ID NEVER BEING SHOWN AT ALL.

Funny, how Mr. Holder is an older black man, and the person pretending to BE him is a young white man - but it proves the point.
As long as poll workers don't give a rat's ass, voter fraud is extremely easy.

You don't have to show fake IDs - you can just lie. You can just find the precincts where the poll workers suck - and flood them. I suspect that's why we have those "anomalies" - precincts with more votes cast than eligible voters.

SOMEHOW, in 2020, my younger sister got pushed out of voting, because records showed she'd already voted - which means, somehow, someone got her name and cast a vote with it.

 

[Clem72]

I do know that - IIRC - a guy at Project Veritas went into DC and said he was Eric Holder - you know, the Attorney General at the time - and they let him pass.

That's not even remotely what I said. I said I would be okay with ID plus proof of residency for registering to vote/voting. You said IF they bother to verify, and my response about verifying the ID/documents was that it probably doesn't matter since just having something would be a big enough hurdle to stop large scale cheating.

The whole not having ID at all thing was your own tangent about the way things are currently run and has nothing to do with the hypothetical we were talking about (clearing voting roles every year and reregistering).

 

[Clem72]

Wonder how many people used their REAL ID driver's license to verify voter requirements? and can the photo be linked to the pollbook?

Does it matter? If the intent is to stop wide-spread voter fraud then requiring any documentation is likely sufficient. Especially since it's already illegal to forge government issues IDs. I don't really care if we stop Jose the illegal with a fake ID from voting, I want to stop Josey the DNC state chair from bussing hundreds of people to polls (or forging 100s of mail-ins).

 

[Tech]

Does it matter? If the intent is to stop wide-spread voter fraud then requiring any documentation is likely sufficient. Especially since it's already illegal to forge government issues IDs. I don't really care if we stop Jose the illegal with a fake ID from voting, I want to stop Josey the DNC state chair from bussing hundreds of people to polls (or forging 100s of mail-ins).

Don't have a problem with bussing voters to the poll, just want all those who vote are eligible under the state constitution.