Climate Hypocrisy

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Kill those who disagree! Silence the naysayers!

'Anti-Greta' activist flees Europe after Antifa death threats; Elon Musk backs her asylum claim

Naomi Seibt seeks U.S. asylum alleging German intelligence surveillance and death threats from Antifa with no government protection.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Hijinx]

Kill those who disagree! Silence the naysayers!

'Anti-Greta' activist flees Europe after Antifa death threats; Elon Musk backs her asylum claim

Naomi Seibt seeks U.S. asylum alleging German intelligence surveillance and death threats from Antifa with no government protection.

www.foxnews.com

Germany is done. It isn't even German any more.

 

[GURPS]

In the wee hours of this morning, the alert overnight team at the New York Times ran an astonishing article headlined, “Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise.’” He’s changed his mind, evolved his position— pivoted. “Climate change will have serious consequences — particularly for people in the poorest countries — but it will not lead to humanity’s demise,” the Clippy software billionaire admitted in a newly published article.



Thus, the progressive purity spiral is now spinning up. For progressives, the only group that deserves more hatred than MAGA fascists is deserters. The Times’ liberal readers seethed with impotent rage in the article’s comments. “It is very suspicious,” ‘Jorge’ from Madrid opined, “that Bill Gates has radically changed his views after just a few months of Trump’s presidency.” John Kotula of Rhode Island snipped, “Billionaires don’t have the solution because they are the problem.”

Bill’s memo was not linked by the Times; they were probably afraid of what its easily triggered regulars might do if they got a gander at the whole thing. It wasn’t hard to find though. The vaccine-pushing philanthropist has his own vanity news site called GatesNotes, upon which he disgorges his various late-night theories and ruminations.

This one was titled, “Three tough truths about climate. Subtitle: “What I want everyone at COP30 to know.”

COP30 is the latest in a series of COPs, which is the world’s biggest climate conclave, organized by the United Nations. The next one will be held in Brazil, and starts in a couple weeks on November 10th. It’s the World Economic Forum for climate wackos. Picture thousands of delegates —from presidents and politicians to green-energy CEOs and carbon scientists— swanking at five-star hotels and infesting vast conference halls, delivering urgent speeches to each other, making backroom deals, and debating bold promises about literally saving the planet from imminent rightwing destruction.



It is the can’t-miss event of the year. That is, if you earn your daily on the Climate Express grift train. Bill Gates has been a permanent installation at previous COPs (COP26 in Glasgow, 2021, COP27 in Sharm el-Sheikh, 2022, COP 28 in Dubai in 2023, etc). He’s a beloved keynote speaker, a major address deliverer, a prominent panel participant, and of course, a big money man.

Bill Gates just announced that he isn’t going. Seeya.

After several paragraphs of throat-clearing and reassuring COP30 addicts that he still takes climate change very seriously, Gates continued in his “memo” to gently shred climate science into ribbons, cooing calm reassurances while carving its heart out with a sharpened spoon. The lengthy memo was packed with a long series of graphs, charts, arguments, and three “tough truths.” (They’re only ‘tough truths’ to climate junkies.) Here they are:

1. “Truth #1. Climate change is a serious problem, but it will not be the end of civilization.”
2. “Truth #2. Temperature is not the best way to measure our progress on climate.”
3. “Truth #3. Health and prosperity are the best defense against climate change.”

In short (which does not do the voluminous about-face any justice), Gates said the best way to measure progress on climate is through human flourishing. “It’s time to put human welfare at the center of our climate strategies,” Gates wrote, “which includes reducing the Green Premium to zero.”



Zero! What Gates meant by “Green Premium” was the extra cost of green tech over things like coal plants and gas engines. So, in other words, the suddenly parsimonious Gates argued we shouldn’t use any climate solution that isn’t downright cheaper than the traditional alternative. Needless to say, if COP30 accepted this advice, it would wipe out 99% of the purpose for the stupid summit in the first place.

Gates next suggested climate worshippers stop being such negative ninnies and look at the long term, maybe like improving peoples’ lives —not with windmills and solar farms— but through genetically engineered food and vaccines and stuff:



It would be impolite to point out that, until about ten minutes ago, Bill Gates was one of the biggest doomcryers on the warming planet. Now, apparently, he’s decided that he is out. Buh-bye. So long, and thanks for all the fish, as Douglas Adams might have said.

It was heresy! Apostasy! Perfidy of the highest order! No wonder Bill isn’t going to Brazil. They’d hang him higher than Haman.

None of this redeems Bill from his satanic excesses, like buying billions in Moderna stock right before the pandemic, then selling it all just before admitting the shots don’t work. The point is that something or someone yanked Bill’s leash— and he’s gotten right in line. Good doggie. Now, he says, it’s Mission Accomplished:



Time to move on!

But why? And, why now? We can only speculate. USAID money isn’t flowing to Gates’ foundations and climate companies anymore, so now he must fund them with his own money. That’s one. He also has a great big Epstein problem that he’d prefer stay buried along with the International Mystery Man. That’s two. Chemtrail experiments will soon be shuttered for good. That’s three. And Gates can easily see Republicans holding the White House for 11 more years, so climate won’t be nearly as profitable as the old days, not if you count “profits” as free money extracted from taxpayers by witless progressive politicians and then laundered back to them through climate CEOs, ad infinitum.

Bill Gates is a great big canary in the lithium mine. Happily, the Green New Scam is being choked out. Like Jorge from Madrid, I suspect President Trump had something to do with it. (Now let’s choke out vaccines and GMO seeds.)

COP30 won’t be nearly as much fun this year without the pudgy billionaire.

☕️ GREEN OLD SCAM ☙ Tuesday, October 28, 2025 ☙ C&C NEWS 🦠

Bill Gates ditches green grift in “Dear John” to his climate pals; Trump racks up Asian trade wins and toys with reporters; WaPo admits young cancers up; SADS TikToker dies; anarchist busted; more.

www.coffeeandcovid.com

 

[GURPS]

The Environmental Disaster of Wind and Solar​

The American people, and others around the world, have been sold a bill of goods on wind and solar energy. These electricity sources are intermittent, unreliable, and ridiculously expensive. Those defects supposedly were outweighed by their environmental benefits. But are there, in fact, any environmental benefits?

The reality is that both wind and solar energy are terrible for the environment. This is because they are absurdly low-power energy sources, so they require vast quantities of materials (mining, manufacturing, transportation and construction) and land to produce minimal amounts of electricity.
This video tells the story. It is deliberately moderate in tone to be accessible to a broad audience that probably knows little about the realities of wind and solar:

 

[GURPS]

GM to Lay Off Thousands of EV Workers After Green Energy Subsidy Ends​

But those subsidies are gone now, and so a bunch of people who worked on vehicles and batteries are finding themselves out of work.

General Motors is laying off thousands of UAW-represented workers at factories that make electric vehicles and EV batteries as it retrenches from EVs after the end of federal subsidies and the elimination of some emissions regulations.
GM plans to lay off more than 3,300 hourly workers at plants across Michigan, Ohio and Tennessee starting in January. Of those, more than 1,700 are being laid off indefinitely, while more than 1,500 are expected to be called back in mid-2026.
The automaker said that battery plants it jointly owns with LG Energy Solution in Ohio and Tennessee will be idled starting Jan. 5 and that it plans to resume production in mid-2026.
GM is also placing about 1,200 of the 3,400 workers at its dedicated EV assembly plant in Detroit on indefinite layoff.

If they'd asked me, I could've told 'em:

Turns out that GM isn't the only manufacturer hit by the loss of the subsidies.

GM isn’t alone in pulling back on EV plans. Ford is moving workers from the plant that makes the electric F-150 Lightning to a nearby factory that makes the more popular—and profitable—gasoline-burning version. Nissan has decided not to offer its Ariya EV as a 2026 model and Honda has halted orders of the electric Acura ZDX, which is manufactured by GM.
“In response to slower near-term EV adoption and an evolving regulatory environment, General Motors is realigning EV capacity,” the company said.

That's a nice way of saying "The federal gravy train isn't running anymore, so we will have to go back to making cars that people want to buy." That's how it should be, of course, but we should note that these subsidies were products of the previous administration, and if economic reality is here, as in, anywhere on the North American continent, then the Biden administration's economic policy was somewhere out past the Horsehead Nebula, and lost in space.

 

[GURPS]

“Green” Calculations: Wrong Again​

Pretty much every calculation you have ever seen relating to “green” energy–cost estimates, productivity claims, and so on–has been wrong. “Green” energy really is a scam, as President Trump says. It is consistently sold on the basis of fake science.

The latest case in point comes from Great Britain, via the Telegraph: “Miliband admits wind power less reliable than expected.”

The Government has slashed forecasts for the amount of electricity it expects wind farms to generate in a blow to Ed Miliband’s net zero plans.
In documents published before an auction of green energy subsidies this week, officials said they were revising down the predicted efficiency of wind turbines by more than a quarter as a result of “updated modelling”.

Presumably that “updated modelling” is the result of experience and observation rather than the pie-in-the-sky models on the basis of which wind energy was sold.

The Government’s new estimates slashed the predicted “load factor” – the proportion of the year turbines are expected to generate power – from 61pc to 43.6pc for offshore wind. The estimated load factor for onshore turbines was also revised down, from 48.7pc to 33.4pc.

 

[Czar]

In the wee hours of this morning, the alert overnight team at the New York Times ran an astonishing article headlined, “Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise.’” He’s changed his mind, evolved his position— pivoted. “Climate change will have serious consequences — particularly for people in the poorest countries — but it will not lead to humanity’s demise,” the Clippy software billionaire admitted in a newly published article.



Thus, the progressive purity spiral is now spinning up. For progressives, the only group that deserves more hatred than MAGA fascists is deserters. The Times’ liberal readers seethed with impotent rage in the article’s comments. “It is very suspicious,” ‘Jorge’ from Madrid opined, “that Bill Gates has radically changed his views after just a few months of Trump’s presidency.” John Kotula of Rhode Island snipped, “Billionaires don’t have the solution because they are the problem.”

Bill’s memo was not linked by the Times; they were probably afraid of what its easily triggered regulars might do if they got a gander at the whole thing. It wasn’t hard to find though. The vaccine-pushing philanthropist has his own vanity news site called GatesNotes, upon which he disgorges his various late-night theories and ruminations.

This one was titled, “Three tough truths about climate. Subtitle: “What I want everyone at COP30 to know.”

COP30 is the latest in a series of COPs, which is the world’s biggest climate conclave, organized by the United Nations. The next one will be held in Brazil, and starts in a couple weeks on November 10th. It’s the World Economic Forum for climate wackos. Picture thousands of delegates —from presidents and politicians to green-energy CEOs and carbon scientists— swanking at five-star hotels and infesting vast conference halls, delivering urgent speeches to each other, making backroom deals, and debating bold promises about literally saving the planet from imminent rightwing destruction.



It is the can’t-miss event of the year. That is, if you earn your daily on the Climate Express grift train. Bill Gates has been a permanent installation at previous COPs (COP26 in Glasgow, 2021, COP27 in Sharm el-Sheikh, 2022, COP 28 in Dubai in 2023, etc). He’s a beloved keynote speaker, a major address deliverer, a prominent panel participant, and of course, a big money man.

Bill Gates just announced that he isn’t going. Seeya.

After several paragraphs of throat-clearing and reassuring COP30 addicts that he still takes climate change very seriously, Gates continued in his “memo” to gently shred climate science into ribbons, cooing calm reassurances while carving its heart out with a sharpened spoon. The lengthy memo was packed with a long series of graphs, charts, arguments, and three “tough truths.” (They’re only ‘tough truths’ to climate junkies.) Here they are:

1. “Truth #1. Climate change is a serious problem, but it will not be the end of civilization.”
2. “Truth #2. Temperature is not the best way to measure our progress on climate.”
3. “Truth #3. Health and prosperity are the best defense against climate change.”

In short (which does not do the voluminous about-face any justice), Gates said the best way to measure progress on climate is through human flourishing. “It’s time to put human welfare at the center of our climate strategies,” Gates wrote, “which includes reducing the Green Premium to zero.”



Zero! What Gates meant by “Green Premium” was the extra cost of green tech over things like coal plants and gas engines. So, in other words, the suddenly parsimonious Gates argued we shouldn’t use any climate solution that isn’t downright cheaper than the traditional alternative. Needless to say, if COP30 accepted this advice, it would wipe out 99% of the purpose for the stupid summit in the first place.

Gates next suggested climate worshippers stop being such negative ninnies and look at the long term, maybe like improving peoples’ lives —not with windmills and solar farms— but through genetically engineered food and vaccines and stuff:



It would be impolite to point out that, until about ten minutes ago, Bill Gates was one of the biggest doomcryers on the warming planet. Now, apparently, he’s decided that he is out. Buh-bye. So long, and thanks for all the fish, as Douglas Adams might have said.

It was heresy! Apostasy! Perfidy of the highest order! No wonder Bill isn’t going to Brazil. They’d hang him higher than Haman.

None of this redeems Bill from his satanic excesses, like buying billions in Moderna stock right before the pandemic, then selling it all just before admitting the shots don’t work. The point is that something or someone yanked Bill’s leash— and he’s gotten right in line. Good doggie. Now, he says, it’s Mission Accomplished:



Time to move on!

But why? And, why now? We can only speculate. USAID money isn’t flowing to Gates’ foundations and climate companies anymore, so now he must fund them with his own money. That’s one. He also has a great big Epstein problem that he’d prefer stay buried along with the International Mystery Man. That’s two. Chemtrail experiments will soon be shuttered for good. That’s three. And Gates can easily see Republicans holding the White House for 11 more years, so climate won’t be nearly as profitable as the old days, not if you count “profits” as free money extracted from taxpayers by witless progressive politicians and then laundered back to them through climate CEOs, ad infinitum.

Bill Gates is a great big canary in the lithium mine. Happily, the Green New Scam is being choked out. Like Jorge from Madrid, I suspect President Trump had something to do with it. (Now let’s choke out vaccines and GMO seeds.)

COP30 won’t be nearly as much fun this year without the pudgy billionaire.

☕️ GREEN OLD SCAM ☙ Tuesday, October 28, 2025 ☙ C&C NEWS 🦠

Bill Gates ditches green grift in “Dear John” to his climate pals; Trump racks up Asian trade wins and toys with reporters; WaPo admits young cancers up; SADS TikToker dies; anarchist busted; more.

www.coffeeandcovid.com

They put the story on page 21. Lol, nothing to see here.

 

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GM to Lay Off Thousands of EV Workers After Green Energy Subsidy Ends​

But those subsidies are gone now, and so a bunch of people who worked on vehicles and batteries are finding themselves out of work.



If they'd asked me, I could've told 'em:

Turns out that GM isn't the only manufacturer hit by the loss of the subsidies.



That's a nice way of saying "The federal gravy train isn't running anymore, so we will have to go back to making cars that people want to buy." That's how it should be, of course, but we should note that these subsidies were products of the previous administration, and if economic reality is here, as in, anywhere on the North American continent, then the Biden administration's economic policy was somewhere out past the Horsehead Nebula, and lost in space.

So where does the billions go that was for building EV charging stations .? They didn't build many if any at all. Hope they didn't hand any out that they won't get back.

 

[Czar]

So where does the billions go that was for building EV charging stations .? They didn't build many if any at all. Hope they didn't hand any out that they won't get back.

One never questions Democrat spending, they felt warm and fuzzy inside, which is all that matters as they borrowed and flushed taxpayer money down the drain.

"Liberals get credit for good intentions, and that's about it, because everything they do fails"....Rush Limbaugh

 

[GURPS]

One never questions Democrat spending, they felt warm and fuzzy inside, which is all that matters as they borrowed and flushed taxpayer money down the drain.

"Liberals get credit for good intentions, and that's about it, because everything they do fails"....Rush Limbaugh

TRUE Socialism or Communism HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED

MOAR POWER
MOAR Money

 

[GURPS]

https://x.com/NetZeroWatch/status/1984285432494850443

 

[GURPS]

Trump ROASTS Bill Gates For HUMILIATING BACKTRACK On Climate Change DOOMSDAY Predictions!​

 

[GURPS]

Another Battery Catastrophe​

Wind and solar energy are both intermittent and weather-dependent, while our needs for electricity are constant. How, then, to make them viable? Batteries! What batteries? Big ones. Do such batteries exist? Not exactly.

Australia’s left-wing government has been trying to transition from coal power to wind and solar, without success. Most recently, a giant battery facility at Waratah, not yet in operation, has suffered a catastrophic failure and will be off-line indefinitely. The facility is huge:

The one-billion-dollar Waratah Super Battery is rated at 850 MW (1680 MWh) — in other words, it can deliver 850 megawatts of power for about two hours before it’s a flat battery.

Somehow, two hours doesn’t seem long enough.

As reported by Jo Nova, this is what happened:

One of the world’s most powerful battery storage projects has suffered a crippling failure just a couple of months before it was supposed to be ready for full operation. The problem with one, and possibly two of its three transformers is so bad, it’s the kind of glitch that affects the whole national transition. This battery was supposed to provide stability for the grid as coal power stations were forced out by the renewable subsidies. But suddenly generators all over NSW are recalculating maintenance schedules and closure dates.

The problem with the transformers is described further at the link, although it remains mysterious. How long will it take to get new or rebuilt transformers?

The company is saying it will be six months to a year-long delay, but, given the waiting times for transformers in the US have blown out to an astounding 120 weeks, and up to 210 weeks or 2 to 4 years, it seems wildly optimistic to hope this can be back in action next year. Currently the AEMO officially describes this fault as continuing until May 3rd, 2026.

So, several years probably. But all is not lost:

This highlights the fragility of the whole transition which is dependent on new technologies that are being invented just-in-time (or not). This giant battery was supposed to arrive in time for Eraring Coal to shut last August.
And the grid, once again, is rescued by an old coal plant that keeps running.

Coal-fired power plants, unlike wind and solar facilities, actually work. Someday, the current mania for windmills and photovoltaic panels will be viewed in the same light as the alchemists’ futile efforts of the Middle Ages, or, in economic terms, the South Sea Bubble.

A postscript: wind turbines and solar panels are pathetically weak sources of electricity, but most people assume they must be “green,” i.e., good for the environment. That couldn’t be further from the truth. In fact, both wind and solar are environmental disasters. Check out this American Experiment video, which has been viewed more than a million times on YouTube since it was launched a week ago. Ultimately, we think it will get 10 million or more views. And it is targeted primarily to liberals, so we hope they are learning something:

 

[GURPS]

Crumbling Consensus On Climate? Americans Vote ‘No Confidence’ In Latest U.N. Talks: I&I/TIPP Poll​

Voters have little confidence that anything significant will emerge from this month’s global climate talks that begin in Brazil this week, but they are also split on what the best course forward would be, the latest I&I/TIPP Poll shows.

The latest I&I/TIPP Poll, taken from Oct. 28 to Oct. 31, asked 1,418 adults the following question: “How confident are you that the upcoming United Nations climate talks (COP30) in Brazil, with a goal of raising $1.3 trillion in climate finance, will succeed in curbing global warming?”

Overall, just 34% said they were either “very confident” (11%) or “somewhat confident” (23%), while 49% said they were “not very confident” (27%) and 22% said they were “not at all confident.” Another 18% said they weren’t sure.

Looking across responses by demographic groups, two stand out: Responses by age, and responses by political affiliation.

Start with age. Among those 18 to 24 years old, 46% were “confident,” while 38% were “not confident. For 25 to 44 years, the comparable numbers were nearly identical: 47% confident, 37% not confident. But for those 45 to 64, the confident share fell to 26% while the not confident jumped to 52%. For 65 and above, the confident number dips further to 20%, while the not confident surges to 65%.

Clearly, there’s a major generation gap on the climate change issue.

Political affiliation is another difference, but in a surprising way.

Democrats (41% confident, 43% not confident) aren’t really too far from Republicans (35% confident, 51% not confident) when it comes to confidence, but as the numbers show GOP members are less confident overall.

It’s not the Republicans who take the prize for least confident overall, but rather the independents who come in at 26% confident, to 54% not confident. That’s a 28 percentage-point confidence gap, compared to a 16 percentage-point deficit for the GOP and just 2 percentage points for the Dems.

Race is another point of departure. Among white poll respondents, just 29% said they were confident, while 54% said they weren’t. That’s a minus-25 point gap. But when blacks and Hispanics were asked, the response was flipped: 48% confident, 34% not confident, a plus-14 point difference.

Taken together, the whites and blacks/Hispanics are 39 points apart in their responses.

But now comes the question for those who are not confident: What should be done? Specifically, I&I/TIPP asked: “If you are not confident in the UN’s ability to curb global warming, which of the following approaches do you think is best for the future?”

Overall, 21% selected “continue using conventional carbon-based fuels and rely on technology to find better, cheaper replacements”; 25% picked “keep using alternative energy sources, even if they cost more and have limited effect on CO2 emissions”; just 14% opted for “force companies and consumers to use less fuel through taxes and higher prices to reduce global temperatures”; and 21% went for “none of the above — global population decline will naturally reduce the carbon footprint.”

So there really is no solid consensus in how to address a problem as diffuse and ill-defined as “climate change” or “global warming.”
That shouldn’t be a surprise. Some formerly ardent advocates for aggressive global action against climate change have left the fold and now suggest far less draconian measures.

In early November, Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates stunned and disappointed many zealous global climate change activists by asserting in a long blog post that climate change “will not lead to humanity’s demise. People will be able to live and thrive in most places on Earth for the foreseeable future.”

The New York Post called this a “stunning reversal” after “years of doomerism.” And indeed it was. So was the reversal on climate change by Ted Nordhaus, director of the Breakthrough Institute, who recently noted that “the climate movement has effectively conflated consensus science about the reality and anthropogenic origins of climate change with catastrophist claims about climate risk for which there is no consensus whatsoever.”

Gates, whose immense wealth remains tied up in Microsoft, understands that the move to an artificial intelligence-based economy will require massive increase in electrical output. There’s no way that can happen in a world where, as in much of the European Union, nations are actually deindustrializing by dismantling nuclear power plants and forcing up prices of fossil fuels in order to display their climate-change virtue.

Now, some researchers are making a different case entirely: University of California scientists report because of a “fatal flaw” in the carbon cycle, “global warming could eventually swing in the opposite direction, tipping the planet into an ice age.”

Yes, the so-called “global consensus” has been crumbling of late, as countries struggle with dwindling energy supplies leading to rising prices.
Global freezing? Global warming? Which is it? In addition to rising energy costs, the mixed messages, ideological bias and lack of scientific rigor in the climate change field might be big reasons why voters in the I&I/TIPP Poll are cynical about the COP-30 global climate change talks.

Even as Americans see their energy costs rise due to “green” taxes, they see little change in the climate but lots of energy-related inflation. As the American Institute for Economic Research recently noted, “As AI data centers, clean-energy mandates, and regulations collide, the power grid is becoming a battlefield.”

The growing skepticism is also fueled by what many see as the hypocrisy of an estimated 50,000 global climate bureaucrats flying to Brazil for COP-30 in CO2-spewing planes (Brazil added 221 international flights to its schedule to accommodate the crowd) and, once there, will be ferried around by fleets of gasoline-powered vehicles to meetings, lavish dinners and self-congratulatory sessions.

Brazil’s government, eager to host the COP 30, even cut a wide swath of virgin Amazon rain forest to build a four-lane highway for the meeting, which takes place in out-of-the-way Belem.

Despite all this, global media give uncritical backing for the COP 30 climate-change message. The Associated Press, for instance, stated in its curtain-opener for the meeting that “Climate change is already escalating disasters that mean life or death for billions of people around the world, and delaying action will only worsen the problem.”

Perhaps it’s no surprise then that average Americans lack confidence in the U.N.’s climate change policies.

They know that the U.S., China and India, which account for more than half of the world’s GDP and the bulk of the world’s output of greenhouse gases, aren’t even taking part. That’s why U.S. voters expect little to nothing from COP 30, apart from more rhetoric and an enormous bureaucratic expense tab, as the I&I/TIPP Poll shows,

 

[GURPS]

Climate scientists’ controversial claim Gulf Stream could be near collapse — predicting a new ice age​

A key Atlantic current could be pushed to the brink of collapse within decades, supposedly ushering in a new ice age and dramatically raising sea levels, climate scientists have claimed in a controversial new study published in the journal Communications Earth & Environment.

The apocalyptic predictions came as a result of a collaboration between researchers at the Institute of Oceanology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (IOCAS) and the University of California, San Diego — weeks after one-time climate alarmist Bill Gates publicly downplayed the impact of temperature fluctuations on the planet.

Per the new findings, the at-risk current in question is the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation or AMOC, a “conveyor belt of the ocean” that funnels warm water toward the ocean surface — from the tropics to the Northern Hemisphere.

This current, which includes the Gulf Stream that runs from the Gulf of Mexico to the US East Coast and across the Atlantic to Europe, helps maintain the mild climate of Europe, the UK, and the US East Coast.


The study stated that the source of this marine temperature regulator, the Greenland Ice sheet, is being thawed amid warming temperatures, causing meltwater runoff to leach into the North Atlantic — leading to stagnation.

 

[Kyle]

Let me guess… they need billions to study the coming ice age.

 

[stgislander]

Climate scientists’ controversial claim Gulf Stream could be near collapse — predicting a new ice age​

A key Atlantic current could be pushed to the brink of collapse within decades, supposedly ushering in a new ice age and dramatically raising sea levels, climate scientists have claimed in a controversial new study published in the journal Communications Earth & Environment.

The apocalyptic predictions came as a result of a collaboration between researchers at the Institute of Oceanology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (IOCAS) and the University of California, San Diego — weeks after one-time climate alarmist Bill Gates publicly downplayed the impact of temperature fluctuations on the planet.

Per the new findings, the at-risk current in question is the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation or AMOC, a “conveyor belt of the ocean” that funnels warm water toward the ocean surface — from the tropics to the Northern Hemisphere.

This current, which includes the Gulf Stream that runs from the Gulf of Mexico to the US East Coast and across the Atlantic to Europe, helps maintain the mild climate of Europe, the UK, and the US East Coast.


The study stated that the source of this marine temperature regulator, the Greenland Ice sheet, is being thawed amid warming temperatures, causing meltwater runoff to leach into the North Atlantic — leading to stagnation.

That's good news for the polar bears right?

 

[Hijinx]

Australia is spending huge amounts building a giant battery that will last them 2 hrs. if the lights go out.

Maybe.

Being 83 I cannot bring myself to worry about the Gulf Stream quitting.

 

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Give me one good reason to believe them this time.

 

[GURPS]

Ten Years After the Paris Climate Agreement, Climatism Is Crumbling​

President Trump called climate change “the greatest scam ever perpetrated on the world” in his address to the UN General Assembly in September. During the last 10 months, the Trump Administration has shut down permits for offshore wind, slashed subsidies for wind, solar, and electric vehicles, cut climate funding, and banned climate change rhetoric in government documents. The U.S. is not sending delegates to COP30.

But in addition to the U.S., opposition to Net Zero and Climatism is rising in other nations. Reform UK, the opposition party led by Nigel Farage in the UK, is now using the phrase “Net Stupid Zero.” Reform UK is now leading in some political polls.

Alternative für Deutschland, the number two political party in Germany, wants to tear down all wind turbines, calling them “windmills of shame.” Germany has more than 20,000 wind turbines installed, one of the highest densities in the world. Last month the Nationals party in Australia voted to abandon support for Net Zero. Nationals leader David Littleproud said, “We believe in reducing emissions, but not at any cost.” Australia, Germany, the UK, and other nations are struggling with escalating energy costs and no apparent benefit from Net Zero policies.

What have thirty UN climate conferences accomplished since 1995? The answer is “no measurable climate benefit.” Since 2000, the world has spent about $10 trillion on renewable energy, but hydrocarbons─coal, natural gas, and oil─still provided 87% of world energy in 2024 according to the Energy Institute.

Since 1965, global energy consumption has quadrupled and has accelerated since 2000. Every year the world adds about an additional UK worth of energy consumption. Except for the recession year of 2012 and the COVID-19 year of 2020, wind, solar, and other renewables failed to generate enough new energy to provide for the global increase in consumption, let alone replace hydrocarbons.

Last year, former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said, “There shouldn’t be any more coal-fired power plants permitted anywhere in the world.” But global coal consumption continues to rise. Today, more than 6,500 coal-fired power plants operate across the world and another 1,000 are in planning or under construction. In 2024, coal provided 34% of the world’s electricity, the largest source of power.

Global energy consumption will continue to rise. The U.S. has about 80 vehicles for every 100 people, but vehicle usage in Africa and India remains below 10 vehicles for every 100 people. Today, developed nations use up to 20 times as much plastic as poor nations on a per-person basis. Developing nations will continue to use more hydrocarbon fuels to enable their economies to grow.

As Mr. Gates has observed, poverty still characterizes many of the world’s people. Almost 700 million people do not have access to electricity and another two billion have blackouts or brownouts every other day. Over two billion people do not have access to clean water. Millions die each year from malaria, typhoid, and other diseases. World leaders should concentrate on these real problems, instead of unfounded concerns about carbon dioxide emissions.