CNN Special: Black In America

[skizzle]

QUOTE=Baja28;3098441]Darn, I missed it. When I finished watching my grass grow, I had to wash my hair. [/QUOTE]

Hey, Me to.

 

[White Buddah]

That's probably the reason I couldn't sleep last night. It must have been the fact that I didn't "educate" myself on how bad black in America is. Yep, that's gotta be the reason.

 

[whome20603]

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[clevalley]

OK so I took the "bait" and I'm watching this special right now, "Black in America - The Black Woman & Family". I don't see the point. Right now they are documenting a black single man with two children. I applaud his efforts in ensuring his children get a good education...

You must have been watching the incorrect show, this sounds more like a parody of a reality special.

 

[Major Bawls]

I Like it

So I read this thread and felt the need to utilize my freedom of speech. I can't believe how ignorant most people are. I am talking about white and black. I don't hear much from the Jews, (how the holocaust ruined their lives), or from the Chinese (with the child slavery and human trafficking), or even slavery throughout the ancient greek civilization. I mostly hear the black on white, white on black. Well I believe everyone that wants to agree to disagree is just plain ignorant.
I found this that I thought may interest some: "Up to one-half of all the arrivals in the American colonies were White slaves and they were America’s first slaves. These Whites were slaves for life, long before Blacks ever were. This slavery was even hereditary. White children born to White slaves were enslaved too." White Slaves « TORONTO News & Views
So according to this, white slaves from the american colonies where here before black slaves. Because, afterall, black slavery is what started this whole dilema that has lasted for hundreds of years. Does anyone read the facts? There were black slaves owners, as there where white. And yes, I agree, we have come a long way to equality. But how come when I go to google for a white scholarship, I am brought to few sites such as, How to get a scholarship for a white male. When I google for a black scholarship, I come up with a lot more sites including all black schools. Where is the equality in that? Blacks have representatives such as Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton. Who do I hear speaking up for the White people? I don't hear anyone loud and clear, probably because we would get the racism card thrown in our faces. Yep, I am white and darn proud out of it. Before anyone of any color decides to complain about their race, I personally challenge you to inform yourself of that of other races and what they went through. Its freakin history people, that is why its in the history books. But what, idiots feel the need to keep it all in the present? People need to start working together as one race or we will continue to stay segregated. One more note: If Obama by some miracle wins this election, yep... you will see me holding a sign saying "The White side Won" because somehow, people have lost sight that he is mixed, not just black.

Ok.. I am ready for my negative comments from the ignorant race.

Very good point sir...Fact of the matter is no matter which "continent", there has always been some manner of enslaved people either within or originating from that continent.

BUT...we have our own little continent here don't we kids? And it is named the North America (AKA United States of America). We therefore refer to our ethnicity as American. Now we don't call this great country United Staes of Africa or United Sates of China or whatever...so why do we call ourselves African-Amercans or Chinese Americans!!! We are Americans. You were born here, live here...you eat and s**t here...on American soil, next to other Americans...UNITED. Do not attempt to divide by race that which this country has had to fight hard for to attain in the matter of ethnic injustice. Be part of the solution not the problem!

 

[skizzle]

Very good point sir...Fact of the matter is no matter which "continent", there has always been some manner of enslaved people either within or originating from that continent.

BUT...we have our own little continent here don't we kids? And it is named the North America (AKA United States of America). We therefore refer to our ethnicity as American. Now we don't call this great country United Staes of Africa or United Sates of China or whatever...so why do we call ourselves African-Amercans or Chinese Americans!!! We are Americans. You were born here, live here...you eat and s**t here...on American soil, next to other Americans...UNITED. Do not attempt to divide by race that which this country has had to fight hard for to attain in the matter of ethnic injustice. Be part of the solution not the problem!

Thank you and I agree with your opinions as well.

FYI - im not a sir.

 

[Major Bawls]

Sir

Thank you and I agree with your opinions as well.

FYI - im not a sir.

Not a sir here either but there are minions amongst me who use the term fluently. Guess it is catchy.

 

[skizzle]

Not a sir here either but there are minions amongst me who use the term fluently. Guess it is catchy.

You must work in the same field as me, although I have trouble saying sir. I would rather make a fool of myself trying to remember their titles correctly and taking my 5 minutes to get it out. lol

 

[Major Bawls]

Titles

You must work in the same field as me, although I have trouble saying sir. I would rather make a fool of myself trying to remember their titles correctly and taking my 5 minutes to get it out. lol

I could care less about the title. When I look at someone I either see ass*ole or not...

 

[Penn]

Very good point sir...Fact of the matter is no matter which "continent", there has always been some manner of enslaved people either within or originating from that continent.

BUT...we have our own little continent here don't we kids? And it is named the North America (AKA United States of America). We therefore refer to our ethnicity as American. Now we don't call this great country United States of Africa or United States of China or whatever...so why do we call ourselves African-Americans or Chinese Americans!!! We are Americans. You were born here, live here...you eat and s**t here...on American soil, next to other Americans...UNITED. Do not attempt to divide by race that which this country has had to fight hard for to attain in the matter of ethnic injustice. Be part of the solution not the problem!

Well said. Not only do we eat s**t here, we die here as well. We have a common bond that intertwines us. Yet, there are those among us, well it appears that it's not quite enough.

 

[thebigstickk]

To deny the fact that there are seperate cultures here in America would be short sighted. As ive stated previously, I am neither black or white. I am an American. I dont consider my self Native American or Colombian American, although thats the make up of my blood and dont get me wrong, I am proud. I am an American. Everything I have, Ive earned with my own two hands. I have two beautiful children who I absolutely adore and would do anything for. I have a wife who I love and respect. Im serving our country and have been to the war zone with people of all races who I consider my Brothers and Sisters. They too are Americans.
There is a lot of blame being placed on "the other guy" here. You cant speak for a whole race. Its imposible. Ive noticed that alot of the black responses to this post tend to do this and alot of the white responses deny theres a problem. The only one who holds you back from anything in this life is yourself and the fact that this thread generates so much tension is proof that there is a problem. People are always going to be judgemental in some way or another. People of all races are guilty of complaining too much. In my opinion, one thing the government could do to ease this situation is get rid of the terms majority and minority. If we all are American, which i do believe, why the herding?

 

[skizzle]

To deny the fact that there are seperate cultures here in America would be short sighted. As ive stated previously, I am neither black or white. I am an American. I dont consider my self Native American or Colombian American, although thats the make up of my blood and dont get me wrong, I am proud. I am an American. Everything I have, Ive earned with my own two hands. I have two beautiful children who I absolutely adore and would do anything for. I have a wife who I love and respect. Im serving our country and have been to the war zone with people of all races who I consider my Brothers and Sisters. They too are Americans.
There is a lot of blame being placed on "the other guy" here. You cant speak for a whole race. Its imposible. Ive noticed that alot of the black responses to this post tend to do this and alot of the white responses deny theres a problem. The only one who holds you back from anything in this life is yourself and the fact that this thread generates so much tension is proof that there is a problem. People are always going to be judgemental in some way or another. People of all races are guilty of complaining too much. In my opinion, one thing the government could do to ease this situation is get rid of the terms majority and minority. If we all are American, which i do believe, why the herding?

Wow, you said it. I completely agree that a term such as minority should be thrown out the window. Everyone wants equality and I believe that terms like this should be in the past. This keeps anyone classified as this at the lower level. But I would have to disagree that whites deny there is a problem, I think we are just tired about having to tiptoe over everything we so or do and if someone finds it the least bit offensive, we are apologizing. Shoot, I don't get mad that the color white is in the crayon box. Then there are blacks still fighting for equality and its like, um, don't you read the news. Last night I was watching t.v. and it show Will Smith as being the highest paid actor. Hey, I love watching him in his roles and think he is great, regardless of his skin. Or there are blacks that are owners of stores/businesses, wealthy, great singers and much more. I mean how is it that Sharton made enough money to owe $1 mil in taxes and he is still preaching about this crap. The only people that don't make it are the same people holding themselves back, it has nothing to do with skin. And of course, there is always going to be the few people that are against the other. I mean, it's like being outside in elementary school in recess, someone is always going to pick on someone else. I have no clue if my ancestors (bullied) anyone else and I have no clue if anyone (bullied) my ancestors, but they are dead. Get over it. What we need to be worred about is how our economy is suffering and more people being unemployed.

 

[Baja28]

Wow, you said it. I completely agree that a term such as minority should be thrown out the window. Everyone wants equality and I believe that terms like this should be in the past. This keeps anyone classified as this at the lower level. But I would have to disagree that whites deny there is a problem, I think we are just tired about having to tiptoe over everything we so or do and if someone finds it the least bit offensive, we are apologizing. Shoot, I don't get mad that the color white is in the crayon box. Then there are blacks still fighting for equality and its like, um, don't you read the news. Last night I was watching t.v. and it show Will Smith as being the highest paid actor. Hey, I love watching him in his roles and think he is great, regardless of his skin. Or there are blacks that are owners of stores/businesses, wealthy, great singers and much more. I mean how is it that Sharton made enough money to owe $1 mil in taxes and he is still preaching about this crap. The only people that don't make it are the same people holding themselves back, it has nothing to do with skin. And of course, there is always going to be the few people that are against the other. I mean, it's like being outside in elementary school in recess, someone is always going to pick on someone else. I have no clue if my ancestors (bullied) anyone else and I have no clue if anyone (bullied) my ancestors, but they are dead. Get over it. What we need to be worred about is how our economy is suffering and more people being unemployed.

You need to use paragraphs. Wanna marry me?

 

[skizzle]

You need to use paragraphs. Wanna marry me?

Oh pish posh. I just got back from my trip and was tired.
I will marry you if I can play with your everynight. My arm was kind of hurting yesterday though.

 

[Go G-Men]

I am tired of hearing that white people aren't getting anything because other races are getting all of the jobs.



4. Now for minorities spouting about what is was like 60 years ago, I must admit that has improved some but not enough. White Americans will never experience the type of racism that Black Americans had to endure throughout the history of this country.

So you are saying that "White America" needs to experience the same racism that blacks experienced before we are even?

 

[Penn]

So you are saying that "White America" needs to experience the same racism that blacks experienced before we are even?

Maybe 25 years ago, I would hear that thought expressed, when I was in the military. I just kept silent about it, and didn't reply. What could I have said to make a difference in the way that black person felt?

To hear it today makes me feel very sad, on the surface, and I suppose disgusted below the surface.

Come on folks, I would wager there isn't a human being alive - at least on these forums - who has any clue what kind of racism people of color went through in the history of this country!

The thought of white folks experiencing that kind of racism, so we'd be able to identify with it, is absurd.

But what do I know? I just try to get along with sane people.

 

[shiki]

Maybe 25 years ago, I would hear that thought expressed, when I was in the military. I just kept silent about it, and didn't reply. What could I have said to make a difference in the way that black person felt?

To hear it today makes me feel very sad, on the surface, and I suppose disgusted below the surface.

Come on folks, I would wager there isn't a human being alive - at least on these forums - who has any clue what kind of racism people of color went through in the history of this country!

The thought of white folks experiencing that kind of racism, so we'd be able to identify with it, is absurd.

But what do I know? I just try to get along with sane people.

I didn't know where you were going with this but bravo, eloquent and to the point.

 

[RadioPatrol]

White Convicts As Likely to Be Hired As Blacks Without Criminal Records | DMI Blog

Here u go.

Only barely mentioned in passing:

Further exposing the overt racism at play was the study's finding that minority employers were more accepting of minority applicants and job applicants with prison records

Hmmm...and why, in this study, did they not more fully test the minority employers? Was it because they are likely to find that the racism they were looking for exists in all races?

The problem with all such studies is that you can always find a way to set it up to ensure that you will find what you want to find.

Posted by: Oldfart | October 3, 2007 10:41 AM

Barely mentioned in passing:

Further exposing the overt racism at play was the study's finding that minority employers were more accepting of minority applicants and job applicants with prison records

A more thorough test of minority hiring practices might have brought forward the fact that racism is endemic to the human race in general.

In a colorblind America you would expect 70 out of 100 employees to be "white", 12 out of 100 to be "black" and 28 out of 100 to be "hispanic". I suspect that the ratios are actually much different for "white" employers, "black" employers and "hispanic" employers. And that they are all a bunch of racists......

Out here in Kansas we have an Oriental "kitchen" within a grocery chain store that is run exclusively by "hispanics". Somewhat scary in it's implications but the orange chicken is good.

Posted by: Oldfart | October 3, 2007 10:52 AM

 

[toppick08]

Anybody in the mood for some Hennessey ?

:shrug:

 

[RadioPatrol]

White Convicts As Likely to Be Hired As Blacks Without Criminal Records | DMI Blog

Here u go.

Fortunately, such discrimination is already illegal; however, it is difficult to pinpoint violations because the law requires that an offense be intentional and demonstrable. In a 2002 study conducted by two professors from the University of Chicago and MIT that utilized racially indicative names (i.e. there was a "Brad" and a "Tyrone") submitted with resumes of equal qualification. The study recorded how many of the applicants received callbacks or interviews based on resumes where the only significant difference was in the name. In findings consistent with this new Princeton study, it showed that applicants with "white-sounding" names were 50% more likely to receive a call for an interview than those with "black-sounding" names. What's more interesting in the context of this new study involves the apparent lack of impact of the credentials of applicants on the stigma of being an ex-convict. To bolster the comparison between blacks and white ex-convicts offered by the Princeton article, the former study found that the positive impact of the(identical)credentials of those with "white-sounding" names was far greater than that of those with "black-sounding names" on the chances of getting an interview. Just an interesting comparison I thought was poignant to this topic.

It seems, however, that studies like this do little to address the issue of racial discrimination in hiring practices beyond shining a glimmer upon it every five years. Greater accountability of employers through rigorous audits of this kind with actual penalties for violations would perhaps be prudent.

Posted by: ATM | October 7, 2007 12:59 AM

maybe people don't want to hire blacks with those "Boutique" Phony African names that have been so popular as of late .......

who ya gonna hire, some brotha with a degree, speaking ebonics, street slang ... or some who is less qualified but can better talk to customers / office mates .........