Colleges are now closing at a pace of one a week.

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What happens to the students?​

Most never finish their degrees, and alumni wonder about the value of degrees they’ve earned

The loans that students had taken out to pay the college weren’t forgiven, “which was infuriating. I had already put so much money into my education, and my family didn’t have that money. How am I going to apply this to my future if it doesn’t exist?”


This and other questions are on the minds of more and more students this spring as the pace of college closings dramatically speeds up.


About one university or college per week so far this year, on average, has announced that it will close or merge. That’s up from a little more than two a month last year, according to the State Higher Education Executive Officers Association, or SHEEO.


So many colleges are folding that some students who moved from one to another have now found that their new school will also close, often with little or no warning. Some of the students at Newbury, when it closed in 2019, had moved there from nearby Mount Ida College, for example, which shut down the year before.
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Leave it to the Demonrats to ride to the rescue, though. Well, unless it involves spending money that could otherwise go to Ukraine.

 
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  • Many Gen Zers don't see the value in a higher education anymore.


Yeah they do not want to work those soul crushing 9 - 5 jobs
 
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GURPS said:
Yeah they do not want to work those soul crushing 9 - 5 jobs
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I admire this in young people unless it translates to doing nothing and relying on Uncle Sugar for dope money. I'd like to see GenZs look to the trades or entrepreneurship, think local instead of throwing themselves into the meat grinder of soulless corporate climbing.
 
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vraiblonde said:
I admire this in young people unless it translates to doing nothing and relying on Uncle Sugar for dope money. I'd like to see GenZs look to the trades or entrepreneurship, think local instead of throwing themselves into the meat grinder of soulless corporate climbing.
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The problem with this is that they law is written by lawyers for lawyers, and the law can be used nefariously to take what you’ve done.
 
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Merlin99 said:
The problem with this is that they law is written by lawyers for lawyers, and the law can be used nefariously to take what you’ve done.
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The soulless corporate meat grinder can take what you've done and kick you to the curb as well, then you have nothing to fall back on because your only training is being a douchenozzle, and they are a dime a dozen. At least if you have a trade or skill you can start over.

I know professional bartenders who make a fortune and work all over the country, one guy I know works all over the world. Nurses can make bank wherever they go, and are paid extremely well for gig work. There are endless self-contained occupations a person can pursue.

Kids go to college looking for education and direction that schools aren't providing. It's just a churn and burn: get them in and take their money, toss them out in 4 years. I hope GenZ is getting wise to that and not inclined to go hundreds of thousands into debt only to graduate with nothing of value.
 
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vraiblonde said:
The soulless corporate meat grinder can take what you've done and kick you to the curb as well, then you have nothing to fall back on because your only training is being a douchenozzle, and they are a dime a dozen. At least if you have a trade or skill you can start over.

I know professional bartenders who make a fortune and work all over the country, one guy I know works all over the world. Nurses can make bank wherever they go, and are paid extremely well for gig work. There are endless self-contained occupations a person can pursue.

Kids go to college looking for education and direction that schools aren't providing. It's just a churn and burn: get them in and take their money, toss them out in 4 years. I hope GenZ is getting wise to that and not inclined to go hundreds of thousands into debt only to graduate with nothing of value.
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Those are uniquely talented people that have worked their asses off and put in a lot of crap work at a young age also. Most do not have the drive required to be a rock star at their profession.

Nurses get their asses worked off of them, the best thing they can do is stay in school and get a nurse practitioner degree. I have a very high opinion of the two that have been my primary care provider. A physician assistant is also a great gig.

Gen Z seems to think the hot careers are barista and social media influencer.
 
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vraiblonde said:
Kids go to college looking for education and direction that schools aren't providing. It's just a churn and burn: get them in and take their money, toss them out in 4 years. I hope GenZ is getting wise to that and not inclined to go hundreds of thousands into debt only to graduate with nothing of value.
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12 yrs of women's gender studies
 
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vraiblonde said:
I admire this in young people unless it translates to doing nothing and relying on Uncle Sugar for dope money. I'd like to see GenZs look to the trades or entrepreneurship, think local instead of throwing themselves into the meat grinder of soulless corporate climbing.
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I can't say I've found being a business owner anything remotely resembling a "9-5 job". More like a meat grinder.
 
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Gilligan said:
I can't say I've found being a business owner anything remotely resembling a "9-5 job". More like a meat grinder.
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Mine hasn't been a meat grinder, but I remember well the all-nighters and being tethered. But I like to work. It's my only real hobby.
 
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Mine hasn't been a meat grinder, but I remember well the all-nighters and being tethered. But I like to work. It's my only real hobby.
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My record for a single week was around 120 hours, with many 100-hour weeks. Record "single day nonstop" is 72 hours. When you are under threat of contractual default for failing to meet a critical product delivery deadline...you do what ya gotta do to survive. ;-)

Now I'm too old to pull off those kinds of efforts.
 
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vraiblonde said:
I admire this in young people unless it translates to doing nothing and relying on Uncle Sugar for dope money. I'd like to see GenZs look to the trades or entrepreneurship, think local instead of throwing themselves into the meat grinder of soulless corporate climbing.
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I see the term “soulless” used a lot lately and I don’t know what it means.

Is work supposed to be soulful? Is your job supposed to build community in a way your personal life isn’t?
 
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