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SamSpade

Well-Known Member
(sigh) I have a large crew working on my house today. I really hope this doesn't sound bigoted - but would it be too much to ask for at least one of these guys to speak English well enough to understand me? This morning when they started, they knocked my door, asked me if I would move my car, but upon answering "yes" to questions like, where do you want it? or where is a good place to move it to? I realized that he had no idea what I was saying. I quickly grasped he understood "move" and "car" but it was clearly pointless to query further.

Generally, this is why I get concerned about people coming here and NOT learning the language - I worked construction briefly in New England and I met MANY who could barely converse in English - and they had been here almost since BIRTH. (And no, these were not Hispanic, they were Italian, although a few were Portuguese or Brazilian). How can you move to a country and expect to flourish there - and never learn the language? I had a friend of mine who went to Indonesia - and learned the language of a group of people who had NO WRITTEN LANGUAGE. Why would anyone decide to move to, say, France, Spain or Germany - and never even bother?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
(sigh) I have a large crew working on my house today. I really hope this doesn't sound bigoted - but would it be too much to ask for at least one of these guys to speak English well enough to understand me?

It's Not ....... but the left will claim it is
 

RareBreed

Throwing the deuces
Normally for a work crew/delivery crew, they have one person that can speak/understand English. At least all that I've dealt with. I agree with the moving to another country and not learning the language. Work with a lady that has lived here 20+ years and will only engage people who speak Spanish to her. If you speak English, she ignores you.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
Normally for a work crew/delivery crew, they have one person that can speak/understand English. At least all that I've dealt with. I agree with the moving to another country and not learning the language. Work with a lady that has lived here 20+ years and will only engage people who speak Spanish to her. If you speak English, she ignores you.
During my adoption travels - I went to three countries, sometimes more than once. In EVERY instance, I sought to learn as much of the language as possible (unlike many of my fellow travelers, who all too often just wanted to get home). Especially Russia - where we stayed for almost a month - I really wanted to learn enough to let people know what I wanted (although - in China - I was amazed at how often the Chinese citizens wanted to speak ENGLISH). My scariest experience was whenever I was in a small environment, say like a small shop or on the street where I would try to speak the native language and try NOT to look like an idiot (which happened OFTEN when you speak a language that has male and female versions of things like objects).

I cannot imagine moving or spending any time in a country where - at MINIMUM - you don't bother to learn language. I have a father-in-law who learned Spanish because while stationed in Spain, he chose to locate himself in a village where he had to learn Spanish just to order in a local restaurant. I used to work with a woman whose Chinese father insisted that ENGLISH be spoken at home - because he wanted his children to excel in their new country (and she did). Why would you MOVE to a new country - if you didn't want to be part of it? If I moved to say - Scotland or Costa Rica - two places I've considered retiring to - why NOT learn?
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
If I moved to say - Scotland or Costa Rica - two places I've considered retiring to - why NOT learn?
Speaking as someone who routinely tries to to communicate with our Scottish vessel operators....that has got to be the hardest foreign language to learn that I've yet encountered. Except for one small but crucial detail: The word "eff you see kay" must be inserted at least once somewhere in every sentence uttered. SGI will back me up on this one.
 

Grumpy

Well-Known Member
Speaking as someone who routinely tries to to communicate with our Scottish vessel operators....that has got to be the hardest foreign language to learn that I've yet encountered. Except for one small but crucial detail: The word "eff you see kay" must be inserted at least once somewhere in every sentence uttered. SGI will back me up on this one.
Thats because golf was invented there.
 

Kyle

Having a Beer while the world burns!
PREMO Member
Speaking as someone who routinely tries to to communicate with our Scottish vessel operators....that has got to be the hardest foreign language to learn that I've yet encountered. Except for one small but crucial detail: The word "eff you see kay" must be inserted at least once somewhere in every sentence uttered. SGI will back me up on this one.
Is that what "Fook" means?
 

stgislander

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
The British language or the many different Arabic versions?
Oh, just the standard Brit version. Throw in an occasional Scot and it was worse.

The only middle easterners I noticed were all the Turkish barber shops.
 

CRHS89

Active Member
One reason as to why someone doesn't learn the language when they come here...they are not expected to. Anytime they deal with a government agency (including the public school system) or medical provider, it is the agency/provider's responsibility to provide an interpreter.
 
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