Contract With America

[vraiblonde]

Most of us are old enough to remember it the first time around and the Left's hyperbolic reaction to it.

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I accidentally hit on a response to the mindless cultbots when they start disparaging it:

"What part of the Contract do you disagree with?"

I first asked this question out of honest puzzlement to a friend who was going off about how horrible it was and Newt Gingrich is a tyrant, blah blah blah. At first he tried the old "Everything!!!" lame route, but I pressed until he finally stomped off in a huff. Since then I have asked that question dozens of times - some of them right on here - and not one time has the brainless prog had an answer.

Because the real answer is....they don't know. They don't know anything about the Contract and they don't know a single aspect they can speak to with any lucidity. They know that their masters on the TV say it's bad, so that's what they regurgitate.

They've been programmed to scream "RACIST!!" when anyone questions them, so no doubt they'll do that with the modern Contract. But pressing them into silence is easy, and you'll even get to piss them off because there's nothing ignorant people hate more than being reminded of their ignorance.

 

[GURPS]

They've been programmed to scream "RACIST!!" when anyone questions them, so no doubt they'll do that with the modern Contract.

Raycist / Homophobic / Hating Gaia

 

[SamSpade]

I must admit, however, to doing some of the same thing - for example, all I know about "critical race theory" is what people have claimed about it - I haven't looked at any of it specifically. I have seen extensively how it is being used and applied and I am appalled - but if someone were to ask me in detail what I find fault with - I wouldn't have a clue.

And that is an example. HR 1 might be another - I only know a little about it - and am opposed based on what I hear.

But if you're going to vigorously oppose something to your friends and associates, you really should be able to tell them why.

 

[vraiblonde]

I must admit, however, to doing some of the same thing - for example, all I know about "critical race theory" is what people have claimed about it - I haven't looked at any of it specifically.

CRT is whatever they want it to be. It's not really written down or an official thing, its just a theory. In a nutshell:

Critical race theory (CRT), intellectual movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour.

Critical race theory (CRT) | Definition, Principles, & Facts | Britannica

Critical race theory, intellectual and social movement and framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is a socially constructed category that is used to oppress and exploit people of color. Critical race theorists hold that racism is inherent in the law and legal institutions of...

www.britannica.com

Of course we know that race is natural and biological. Otherwise they wouldn't have had a shitfit when Rachel Dolezol claimed to be black - they'd have said, "Well, race is a social construct anyway so who cares?"

And of course everything in the world is "culturally invented", including language and gender norms. Races are races because that is how humans have decided to categorize those with varying biological features. It's not to oppress anyone, it's to sort things out because humans like things sorted.

HOWEVER:

Instead of you having to know what CRT is, you could simply say, "I'm not really sure what that is. Can you explain it to me?" and that would shut the prog up but good because they don't know either. They just know that their cult leaders are promoting it, so they are too.

HR1:

H.R.1 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): For the People Act of 2019

Summary of H.R.1 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): For the People Act of 2019

www.congress.gov

Read the summary and it doesn't sound too bad, does it (except for voting part, which is bullshit)? But history shows us that politicians, Democrats in particular, make these laws after they've already found a way to skirt them. I'm some dummy at a laptop and I can think of numerous ways to get around every single one of the provisions, and the scumsuckers are way more experienced at corruption than I am. Not to mention they break these laws with impunity and never get punished (talking to you, Ilhan, and you, AOC, you campaign finance law breakers).

 

[SamSpade]

At first he tried the old "Everything!!!" lame route, but I pressed until he finally stomped off in a huff. Since then I have asked that question dozens of times - some of them right on here - and not one time has the brainless prog had an answer.

Because the real answer is....they don't know. They don't know anything about the Contract and they don't know a single aspect they can speak to with any lucidity. They know that their masters on the TV say it's bad, so that's what they regurgitate.

For just the hell of it - I looked up the Facebook page of an old girlfirend from almost twenty years back - she made a brief appeance in a dream last night, and I thought whatever happened to her?

Real die-hard Democrat, despises Trump, page full of easily disproved anti-Trump screeds - and I quickly dismissed any temptaion to comment. I suspect she hates me anyway after all these years, so if I spoke the very oracles of God, she would be against it.

Actually my FIRST thought was, damn, did I ever dodge a bullet THERE.

She did have a friend dispute one of her posts with an article he posted, and her only response was - he's wrong. Yup. He backs it up with facts, she says wrong. Read the article - yep, somewhat conservative, but factual. Response, nope, wrong. End of discussion.

What astonishes me is that so very many people I know like this with regard to politics are actually very good critical thinkers in other aspects of life.

The TWO areas where people throw out all semblance of pragmatic logic are politics and religion, and for the left, they're the same thing.

 

[Grumpy]

The TWO areas where people throw out all semblance of pragmatic logic are politics and religion, and for the left, they're the same thing.

^that

 

[Toxick]

it's to sort things out because humans like things sorted.

White humans, maybe.

 

[AnthonyJames]

White humans, maybe.

If you let me ripen in the sun for a few weeks I turn GBD. Golden brown, and delicious.

Otherwise, I'm white like larvae.

 

[vraiblonde]

What astonishes me is that so very many people I know like this with regard to politics are actually very good critical thinkers in other aspects of life.

You have mentioned several times that you were in a cult at one point, so I don't believe you are truly astonished. I think you understand how it happens quite well.

That's not a knock on you and I certainly don't mean to offend you, but these people are no different than a cultist or a religious zealot.

 

[SamSpade]

You have mentioned several times that you were in a cult at one point, so I don't believe you are truly astonished. I think you understand how it happens quite well.

That's not a knock on you and I certainly don't mean to offend you, but these people are no different than a cultist or a religious zealot.

It still astonishes me - there were different "strata" of people in the cult - lots of people who believed in what it was accomplishing even if they didn't swallow everything whole - and I'd say overall, they formed the largest portion of the group, but possibly not the majority. Try to envision yourself in a group of Obama supporters - one part easily makes fun of his ears, posture, effeminate gestures and snobbery - and another that positively GASPS at such sacrilege.

I do tend to bristle when people jeer and suggest you have to be supremely stupid to get involved in a cult - and it just means all they know is what they've seen on TV - naive, unintelligent people who believe a pile of bullchit. I'd say it's a lot like marrying into the mob - it's a lot harder to get out of than just leaving a bad relationship or marriage - which ANYONE, smart or otherwise, can find themselves in. I've said many times what many cult observers notice - the overwhelming characteristic of cultists is not naivete but idealism.

There was definitely a strata of people who believed they'd found the "truth" - the one truth everyone wants, needs and needs to know. One version of my old group, "sold out" is actually a term they use to describe themselves. They believe it all.

Back to the subject at hand -

What I don't understand - is the double think of political devotees. I do like Trump - he's kind of the Judge Judy of the political arena. If you were sparring with him and he got you in a lie, he wouldn't mince words, he'd say, shut up, you're lying, get out of my courtroom. There are coaches that inspire - and coaches that win games. He's the latter. But I won't defend him if I think he's wrong.

These guys - I mean, damn - they defend the most obvious baloney. The current administration thinks crime has gone up because people are buying guns. NO. People are buying guns because crime has gone up - and it's gone up because you're letting people out of jail and sending the cops packing. They can honor George Floyd by naming a square after him - and ignore the incident where a drive-by SHOOTING takes place in full view of the cameras - on the anniversary of his death. They think requiring ID hinders minorities and POC from voting and is therefore racist - and I can't tell you how racist THAT IDEA is - that white people can get ID but POC's can't. All of their "white savior" crap is condescending and racist - and if you don't agree, they think YOU are.

Aaargh.

I think I am more like you nowadays. I don't want to know, I don't want to fight, I just want to get away from it and live long enough before the chit hits the fan and the nation is lost.

 

[vraiblonde]

I do tend to bristle when people jeer and suggest you have to be supremely stupid to get involved in a cult

I don't think that at all. Most humans get caught up in an abusive relationship at some point in their life, whether on a small level or to an extreme. They're looking for something, think they've found it, maybe eventually realize they made a mistake but they're sucked in and can't/won't extract themselves for whatever reason. On top of that they have everyone around them pressuring them to stay in the group. Sometimes they just want to save face and won't admit they made a mistake; and sometimes their abuser has beaten their self-esteem down so they think they deserve the abuse. or think it's "normal". That's why the first thing abusers do is cut the victim off from their family and friends, eliminating any support group that may step in.

Religious cults
Bosses that suck
Abusive marriages
Political cults
Parental abuse
Street gangs
etc etc etc

It's all the same psychological root and all humans have the proclivity on some level.

 

[GURPS]

They can honor George Floyd by naming a square after him - and ignore the incident where a drive-by SHOOTING takes place in full view of the cameras - on the anniversary of his death.

In the UK where Gun Ownership is pretty much BANNED ... BLM Activist was shot in the head by gang members



UK BLM leader shot in head after ‘numerous death threats,’ party says

A UK activist known as the “Black Panther of Oxford” is fighting for her life after being shot in the head following “numerous death threats,” according to her political party.

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“While the investigation is at an early stage, there is nothing to suggest that the woman who was shot was the subject of a targeted attack or that she had received any credible threats against her prior to this incident,” the force insisted in a statement.

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A friend of Johnson’s, Imarn Ayton, told the BBC that she does not believe the prominent activist “was the intended victim” of the attack.

“As far as I am aware … this incident is more related to rival gangs as opposed to her activism,” Ayton said of the mom of three.

The Taking The Initiative Party was formed last summer as protests against racial inequality swept the globe following the police killing of George Floyd in Minnesota in late May.

 

[GURPS]

 

[Gilligan]

In the UK where Gun Ownership is pretty much BANNED ... BLM Activist was shot in the head by gang members

Pity.

 

[DaSDGuy]

In the UK where Gun Ownership is pretty much BANNED ... BLM Activist was shot in the head by gang members



UK BLM leader shot in head after ‘numerous death threats,’ party says

A UK activist known as the “Black Panther of Oxford” is fighting for her life after being shot in the head following “numerous death threats,” according to her political party.

[clip]

“While the investigation is at an early stage, there is nothing to suggest that the woman who was shot was the subject of a targeted attack or that she had received any credible threats against her prior to this incident,” the force insisted in a statement.

[clip]

A friend of Johnson’s, Imarn Ayton, told the BBC that she does not believe the prominent activist “was the intended victim” of the attack.

“As far as I am aware … this incident is more related to rival gangs as opposed to her activism,” Ayton said of the mom of three.

The Taking The Initiative Party was formed last summer as protests against racial inequality swept the globe following the police killing of George Floyd in Minnesota in late May.

Well, at least the bullet hit a part of her body she wasn't using.