Controlled Aggression Training

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I have a 3 1/2 year old rott that shows aggression towards stangers. I have taken him to Applejacks in Charlotte Hall for an evaluation and they said I have maybe two choices. Either put him down or get him into tsome rather intensive training. Applejacks provides this type of training but it is pretty pricy. Has anyoen out there put their dog through the same training that can give me an opinion? Or does anyone know of anyoen else here in Southern Mayland that also provides Controlled Aggression training?
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
bullet said:
I have a 3 1/2 year old rott that shows aggression towards stangers. I have taken him to Applejacks in Charlotte Hall for an evaluation and they said I have maybe two choices. Either put him down or get him into tsome rather intensive training. Applejacks provides this type of training but it is pretty pricy. Has anyoen out there put their dog through the same training that can give me an opinion? Or does anyone know of anyoen else here in Southern Mayland that also provides Controlled Aggression training?

I wouldn't fool with Applejacks.

Give this lady a shout. I regularly take my dogs to her classes. I've seen her do wonders with dogs. I was really amazed at the progress of some of the Katrina rescue dogs.

http://www.caninemind.com/
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
http://www.barkbytes.com/sclubs/mrclub.htm
Check out these links for area clubs and training.

Personally, I suggest contacting the Chesapeake Kennel Club in Huntington (Calvert County). I've had great luck with their training classes and also they are very knowledgable about other classes and clubs and training. I bet if you contact them, they will be able to give you some great advice.

Good luck.
 

Fubar

Look my ass glows!
bullet said:
I have a 3 1/2 year old rott that shows aggression towards stangers. I have taken him to Applejacks in Charlotte Hall for an evaluation and they said I have maybe two choices. Either put him down or get him into some rather intensive training. Applejacks provides this type of training but it is pretty pricy. Has anyone out there put their dog through the same training that can give me an opinion? Or does anyone know of anyone else here in Southern Mayland that also provides Controlled Aggression training?
Does your dog show aggression to family members or just strangers?
Has this been going on for 3 1/2 years???
 

krazd_kat

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cattitude said:
I wouldn't fool with Applejacks.

Give this lady a shout. I regularly take my dogs to her classes. I've seen her do wonders with dogs. I was really amazed at the progress of some of the Katrina rescue dogs.

http://www.caninemind.com/

I've heard good things about Canine Mind as well.

I also wouldn't fool with Applejacks, I'm sure there are some good reports about them, but I've heard nothing good, either from their training methods or in the past about some of the dogs they bred.

Most Rottweiler owners will advise you to never take your dog to a place for training that you have to LEAVE them. Rottweilers need to be in constant training but unfortunately you will have to drive somewhere for this training as Southern Maryland is definitely lacking in this area.
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
krazd_kat said:
I've heard good things about Canine Mind as well.

I also wouldn't fool with Applejacks, I'm sure there are some good reports about them, but I've heard nothing good, either from their training methods or in the past about some of the dogs they bred.

Most Rottweiler owners will advise you to never take your dog to a place for training that you have to LEAVE them. Rottweilers need to be in constant training but unfortunately you will have to drive somewhere for this training as Southern Maryland is definitely lacking in this area.

I would NEVER leave my dog for training.

Brett is excellent. :yay:
 

Suz

33 yrs & we r still n luv
ok-I figured out who bullet is!!!

She was telling me about her Rott Saturday. He'll be happy wagging his tail etc one second and tearing you up the next.

I had a chow like that 30 years ago. He ended up being a guard dog at Rayford (sp?) prison if Fla. He lived out the remainder of his years there until a guard took him home when they did away with the dogs as guard's. My only other choice (then) was to put him down.

He was the first major investment hubby and I ever did, so no way were we going to destroy our $2k investment (and break our hearts-giving him away was painful enough). We knew nothing of training back then. Hubby was only a 2nd class then and we couldn't have afforded it if it was available anyway. We were still paying him off a year later...
 

Cowgirl

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Suz' said:
ok-I figured out who bullet is!!!

She was telling me about her Rott Saturday. He'll be happy wagging his tail etc one second and tearing you up the next.


:ohwell: I don't want to be too pessimistic, but this dog sounds like a major liability...he might be better off being put down. Please don't jump down my throat about saying that...I don't know the dog or the circumstance...but I personally wouldn't take that risk.
 

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Fubar said:
Does your dog show aggression to family members or just strangers?
Has this been going on for 3 1/2 years???

He's great with family members and the other two large dogs. We have regular get togethers with many friends almost weekly. Again no issues. His first incident was about 2 years ago, vet told us it was likely adolesence related, so we had him neutered. No incidents for a very long time. We brought family in to visit, had pool parties with neighbors, etc. Then last summer he began to warn selected people that he didn't like them, so we pretty much kept a pretty close eye on him. The final straw was when a stranger entered that back yard without either my husband or myself present. Took a nip out of her. Very scary. After the initial nip he just backed away and went about his business in the backyard. He didn't pursue. That's why I think his diagnose is dominance not necessarily vicious. Regardless, soemthing has got to be done. Already called Canine Mind, and I think I'll call Chesepeke next. We've had our dogs in there for Kenneling before. Loved them.
 

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Cowgirl said:
:ohwell: I don't want to be too pessimistic, but this dog sounds like a major liability...he might be better off being put down. Please don't jump down my throat about saying that...I don't know the dog or the circumstance...but I personally wouldn't take that risk.
No offense taken. A 135 pound rott is a definite liability. I had him an appointment for his goodbye shot the very next day. But like good dog owners, we contacted the health department and police. Were told we could not put him down for at least two weeks. Both authorities told us to explore all our options before making a decision.
 

krazd_kat

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bullet said:
His first incident was about 2 years ago, vet told us it was likely adolesence related, so we had him neutered.

Did you do any training with him?

bullet said:
Then last summer he began to warn selected people that he didn't like them, so we pretty much kept a pretty close eye on him.

What did you do when he did this? Again, any training?

bullet said:
The final straw was when a stranger entered that back yard without either my husband or myself present.

Why was there a stranger in the backyard?

I love Rottweilers - I love the breed and the character of these dogs, BUT these dogs are powerful and SMART - if they are NOT trained and kept up on their training they can become a liability.

It sounds like this dog has never had any formal training, it's great that you are willing to work with him now and since he backed off after biting, hopefully one of the established, reputable trainers can train BOTH you and him on how to behave. Please don't euthanize this dog before you give him a chance.
 

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krazd_kat said:
Did you do any training with him?



What did you do when he did this? Again, any training?



Why was there a stranger in the backyard?

I love Rottweilers - I love the breed and the character of these dogs, BUT these dogs are powerful and SMART - if they are NOT trained and kept up on their training they can become a liability.

It sounds like this dog has never had any formal training, it's great that you are willing to work with him now and since he backed off after biting, hopefully one of the established, reputable trainers can train BOTH you and him on how to behave. Please don't euthanize this dog before you give him a chance.

We went to obedience training at three notch when he was nine months old. He was fine and weighed over 100 pounds then. I did everything to make sure he was well socialized. Every weekend we went riding, visiting, shopping, walks on the base, etc. It was alomst as if a switch clicked. When the vet recommended neutering, he implied once the testostorone was knowcked down he would calm down. True we may have begun some more intensive training that two years ago, but it seemed such an out of the blue instance. We trusted however naively that all would work out. Our other rott and dobies were such sweet creatures that this really took us by surprise.
 

krazd_kat

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bullet said:
Our other rott and dobies were such sweet creatures that this really took us by surprise.

My first Rottweiler spoiled me, she was the best tempered dog, great around other animals, kids (we never had any but she loved the neighborhood kids), cats, you name it.

Since then, the other 5 that have been in my life have proven to me how different every one can be. I still love the breed, but have learned that there are rarely ever two with the same temperment.

Good luck, I'd be very interested in hearing what the other trainers have to say, especially if you use Canine Mind.
 

kidschihuahuas

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This sounds like a case of both owner reaction and dog behavior. I just finished reading Cesar Millan's book. He describes this as red zone behavior. I'd make the suggestion to read his book to see how you should retrain your dog. I am using his suggestions on my pit bull and my bull dog with great success. It was a real eye opener. But let me know what formal training you decide on. I am also looking into this for my boys. And good luck to you.
 

Cowgirl

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Controlled Aggression T... 01-16-2007 06:07 PM Jumping down your throat, destroy it rather than work with it. Vapid.

Well, you know what? I'd rather put my dog to sleep than have it maim or kill some innocent person. Did you ever think of that? :duh:
 
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