Controlled Substances Contract

[BOP]

...or Obamacare gone wild?
http://www.ohsu.edu/ahec/pain/med_contractlf.pdf

Mrs BOP came home today with a 2-page "contract" very similar to the one to which I've linked. No doubt they'll give me one the next time I go in to see the doctor.

The only difference is that where the one I've linked to says "If in treatment, I will request that a copy of the program’s initial evaluation and treatment recommendations be sent to this provider and will not expect refills until that is received. I will also request written monthly updates be sent to verify my continuing treatment," the one she brought home says nothing.

Number 10 (of 15) on her "contract" says the following:
"I must cooperate with unannounced urine and/or blood screens and pill counts. I may be asked to come in between appointments for such testing. All costs of such testing are the patient's responsibility solely, even if not covered by insurance." Talk about adding insult to injury.

My question should be obvious: is this even legal? Can anyone recommend a good attorney. By good, I mean knowledgeable.

I'll be reposting this in threads with more traffic if I don't see a response. Don't be hatin' if it looks like spam. I may respost it elsewhere, anyway, because I think it's important for people to know about this. I find it hugely invasive, and treats a patient as an employee. Except that employees don't have to pay for random drug tests. All of us ought to be concerned about this sort of thing.

TIA

 

[RPMDAD]

BOP, she's all over the place, just like her husband, just stumbling along. I thought her first priority was Ameericans are too fat and out of shape and now she has stumbled in to this.

 

[BOP]

So you're saying she's the real power behind the throne, and he's the nimrod who cleans up well and does a good teleprompter reading?

 

[Lexib_]

...or Obamacare gone wild?
http://www.ohsu.edu/ahec/pain/med_contractlf.pdf

Mrs BOP came home today with a 2-page "contract" very similar to the one to which I've linked. No doubt they'll give me one the next time I go in to see the doctor.

The only difference is that where the one I've linked to says "If in treatment, I will request that a copy of the program’s initial evaluation and treatment recommendations be sent to this provider and will not expect refills until that is received. I will also request written monthly updates be sent to verify my continuing treatment," the one she brought home says nothing.

Number 10 (of 15) on her "contract" says the following:
"I must cooperate with unannounced urine and/or blood screens and pill counts. I may be asked to come in between appointments for such testing. All costs of such testing are the patient's responsibility solely, even if not covered by insurance." Talk about adding insult to injury.

My question should be obvious: is this even legal? Can anyone recommend a good attorney. By good, I mean knowledgeable.

I'll be reposting this in threads with more traffic if I don't see a response. Don't be hatin' if it looks like spam. I may respost it elsewhere, anyway, because I think it's important for people to know about this. I find it hugely invasive, and treats a patient as an employee. Except that employees don't have to pay for random drug tests. All of us ought to be concerned about this sort of thing.

TIA

The reason that they do the random urine tests is to make sure they are taking the medication properly. With all of the rx fraud and selling of pain pills they require that because it covers their a**. If they are ever audited they have proof that the medication was used by the patient.

 

[thurley42]

The reason that they do the random urine tests is to make sure they are taking the medication properly. With all of the rx fraud and selling of pain pills they require that because it covers their a**. If they are ever audited they have proof that the medication was used by the patient.

If they are so worried about CYA then they should have to pay the expense of the UA...as well as the time lost by the individual....

 

[itsbob]

The reason that they do the random urine tests is to make sure they are taking the medication properly. With all of the rx fraud and selling of pain pills they require that because it covers their a**. If they are ever audited they have proof that the medication was used by the patient.

If that was the case, the pee tests wouldn't have to be random, or "unannounced". Doing that you are telling your patient that you believe they will abuse these drugs, and we are going to try to catch you.

If what you say above is true (they care if you are taking it correctly) they can actually schedule your "tests" the same day and give you the schedule before you leave.

I've had to do this with a few meds I've taken in the past, where they were concerned that I was taking it right, or they were concerned they were dosing it right, and I was always provided dates and times of follow up screenings.

 

[Tilted]

BOP, just to make sure I understand - your wife's doctor gave her a contract similar to the one linked and she had to sign it as a condition of receiving prescriptions for pain medications?

 

[BOP]

BOP, just to make sure I understand - your wife's doctor gave her a contract similar to the one linked and she had to sign it as a condition of receiving prescriptions for pain medications?

It's almost exactly the same.

They want her to sign it and bring it back. I'm betting that they'll not let her prescriptions go through if she doesn't sign it and return it. I didn't bring it to work, and normally don't post at work, but this has me a little spun up. #5 on the form I linked to specifies conditions under which the treatment facility will withhold treatment (prescribing medication), and I'm betting the one she was given has similar language.

 

[dachsom]

It's almost exactly the same.

They want her to sign it and bring it back. I'm betting that they'll not let her prescriptions go through if she doesn't sign it and return it. I didn't bring it to work, and normally don't post at work, but this has me a little spun up. #5 on the form I linked to specifies conditions under which the treatment facility will withhold treatment (prescribing medication), and I'm betting the one she was given has similar language.

My new doctor has also had me sign one of these. He then proceeded to tell me that he doesn't prescribe narcotic, valium etc., except to cancer patients. The reason I was given was the rampant drug abuse in our county. Mine also had a clause about "dr shopping".

 

[MMDad]

I've had to sign one of those. There is enough abuse that the Dr. is using it as a way to CYA. But they can't only force it on the people they suspect - that would be profiling. So they give it to everyone who receives certain types of medication. That way when they get called into court they can call Mrs. BOP and say "did the Dr. give you one of these?" When she says yes, that proves that they treat everyone equally and do not discriminate against patients who have needle marks.

My Dr. started doing this before Obama was elected, so this is one of those things we can't blame on him.

As for a urinalysis or anything else, I doubt that the Dr. would ask for one without a reason to suspect something is going on.

 

[RPMDAD]

Dumb as i am when it comes to medical stuff but just curious if this is a CYA for Doctors because of the Anna Nicole Smith???, Michael Jackson high visibility narcotic overdoses that are publicized so much, i am sure there are other big stars that can be included in this list but i don't pay too much attention to the drug overdose deaths of the Rich and Famous, i am not even positive if i spelled their names right. Oh one i do remember because i am a dinosaur is Elvis P. I am just thinking this is a knee jerk reaction affecting the general public???

 

[BOP]

I've had to sign one of those. There is enough abuse that the Dr. is using it as a way to CYA. But they can't only force it on the people they suspect - that would be profiling. So they give it to everyone who receives certain types of medication. That way when they get called into court they can call Mrs. BOP and say "did the Dr. give you one of these?" When she says yes, that proves that they treat everyone equally and do not discriminate against patients who have needle marks.

My Dr. started doing this before Obama was elected, so this is one of those things we can't blame on him.

As for a urinalysis or anything else, I doubt that the Dr. would ask for one without a reason to suspect something is going on.

Okay, thanks. I feel a little better about it...I think. It just seemed hugely invasive. Oh, and that thing about having to pay for a drug test.

PS: so you're saying Blame Bush?