Creationism in our Public Schools

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
SmallTown said:
Sure it will. You said you didn't believe in darwinism. Then you were presented with the fact that one portion of darwinism you do support, thus negating your original claim.

But I agree with you. The ones who follow the original darwin research strictly are missing some things. They refuse to accept that some of darwin's ideas were infact, wrong. While others refuse to accept (or admit) that some of darwin's ideas were correct, or at the very least could not be proven wrong.

Like I said, Darwin's research touched on many different notions concerning evolution. Some were wrong, some were right. People wanting a greater understanding of evolution will need to broaden their sights beyond just darwin and look at some of the more modern research. But of course, that is only an option, not a requirement :biggrin:
I said I believe in micro evolution many. many posts ago. There was nothing new revealed.
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
My common understanding of Darwinism is macro evolution; starting with elements and by some process creating ever more complex life. I know that micro evolution or survival of the fittest falls into Darwinism in the general sense, but I have made it perfectly clear what I believe and what I do not. I hate the nit picking just to make a point. If it continues, I will withdraw from the discussion completely. Is that what you would like?
 

SmallTown

Football season!
2ndAmendment said:
If it continues, I will withdraw from the discussion completely. Is that what you would like?
:killingme

A threat to leave a discussion? :killingme

No. Nobody wants you to leave. I'm just glad you're beginning to break out of your shell and see that your ideas really aren't that much different than many others who believe in evolution. Believe it or not, many people who believe in evolution do not accept the notion we came from monkeys.
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
For 2A

For producing everything out of nothing, one principle is enough (omnibus ex nihil ducendis sufficit unum)
 

2ndAmendment

Just a forgiven sinner
PREMO Member
SmallTown said:
:killingme

A threat to leave a discussion? :killingme

No. Nobody wants you to leave. I'm just glad you're beginning to break out of your shell and see that your ideas really aren't that much different than many others who believe in evolution. Believe it or not, many people who believe in evolution do not accept the notion we came from monkeys.
Obviously you don't bother to read or you don't read well. As I said before, I stated long before you kept asking the same crap questions over and over that I believed in micro evolution. If you are not going to bother to read what I write, then there is no reason to ever respond to you. Have I been in a shell? I don't think so. I think you just don't bother to read or comprehend what you do read.

Will I leave a discussion? You bet. I left the entire board for about a year. This is just a way to pass time when I have nothing else to do. I don't know you IRL and I don't care to.

Since this thread has deteriorated into bash the Christian, bye.
 

UrbanPancake

Right=Wrong/Left=Right
Tonio said:
I agree. What bugs me is when people have obvious contempt for others' beliefs. UrbanPancake shows that kind of contempt. From the Christian side, there are at least two other Forumites who also show that kind of contempt. They haven't posted in this thread, BTW.
I don't show any contempt. I said in an earlier post that it is OK to believe in Jesus, and God. I can still make fun of it if I want to, I mean it is a free country. I will continue calling the Bible a book of fairytales until someone proves to me that it isn't.
 

UrbanPancake

Right=Wrong/Left=Right
2ndAmendment said:
Forums are so ... I keep having to repeat myself. I believe in micro evolution or survival of the fittest. I do not believe in macro evolution or the evolving of one species into another.
Your little theory doesn't explain why we are so closely related with apes. I think our close relation is proof of genetic evolution.

Do you think God evolved from an ape? I was just thinking about that.
 

Spoiled

Active Member
UrbanPancake said:
I don't show any contempt. I said in an earlier post that it is OK to believe in Jesus, and God. I can still make fun of it if I want to, I mean it is a free country. I will continue calling the Bible a book of fairytales until someone proves to me that it isn't.
Make up your damn mind, you either are or arent accepting of others beliefs, if you are seriously going to make fun of them on a public board and say they are stupid then you are not accepting of their beliefs. You are no better than the terrorists that arent accepting of american beliefs. You are a moron.
 

UrbanPancake

Right=Wrong/Left=Right
SmallTown said:
Except for maybe urban, nobody is playing bash the Christian.
I'm not playing bash the Christian. Like I have said before, I am a non-practicing Catholic. But again, I think the Bible is awash in human storytelling and imagination.
 

UrbanPancake

Right=Wrong/Left=Right
Spoiled said:
Make up your damn mind, you either are or arent accepting of others beliefs, if you are seriously going to make fun of them on a public board and say they are stupid then you are not accepting of their beliefs. You are no better than the terrorists that arent accepting of american beliefs. You are a moron.
Find where I said someone was stupid.
 

UrbanPancake

Right=Wrong/Left=Right
Again, there is nothing wrong with the belief in God. There is something wrong when you want other people to live by certain rules that pertain to your religion.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
UrbanPancake said:
I don't show any contempt. I said in an earlier post that it is OK to believe in Jesus, and God. I can still make fun of it if I want to, I mean it is a free country. I will continue calling the Bible a book of fairytales until someone proves to me that it isn't.
When you describe the Bible like that, you sound like you show contempt for others' beliefs, even if that isn't your intent. It sounds like you're calling people dumb if they believe in the Bible. Of course you have every right to make fun of people's beliefs. I just think it's better if you use some diplomacy and tact in debating the issue.
 

Aimhigh2000

New Member
:whistle: Lawdy Miss Clawdy

Even I don't call people dumb for believing in a religion or God or whatever. I respect everyone's right to believe in whatever they want even if I don't. I do think there needs to be a level of respect and understanding. :howdy:
 
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UrbanPancake

Right=Wrong/Left=Right
Tonio said:
When you describe the Bible like that, you sound like you show contempt for others' beliefs, even if that isn't your intent. It sounds like you're calling people dumb if they believe in the Bible. Of course you have every right to make fun of people's beliefs. I just think it's better if you use some diplomacy and tact in debating the issue.
The Bible is a book. That is all it is. It is no different from a critic giving a book a thumbs down. I think I'll do just that. :kiss:

(I wasn't making fun of anyone in particular, just the good book)
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
You people have no idea how much easier it is to read through a thread like this after you have placed TurbanFloss on "Ignore"!!

I highly recommend it; you don't have the tendency to grit your teeth, you no longer feel the need to want to reach through your monitor and attempt to choke the livin' $h!t out of him, and most of all, you can honestly listen to others voice their opinion without the inane distractions!! :yay:
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Aimhigh2000 said:
I thought he was a she with kids? I am so confused! :confused:
Not to insult you, and I don't have you on Ignore, since you are infinitely more intelligent than the TurbanFloss, I have no idea if it's a he or a she.

Nor do I care in the least to discover that fact.

Have wonderful Thanksgiving!
 

Spoiled

Active Member
UrbanPancake said:
Find where I said someone was stupid.
it was easily implied in one of your previous posts

UrbanPancake said:
I don't show any contempt. I said in an earlier post that it is OK to believe in Jesus, and God. I can still make fun of it if I want to, I mean it is a free country. I will continue calling the Bible a book of fairytales until someone proves to me that it isn't.

UrbanPancake said:
I'm not playing bash the Christian. Like I have said before, I am a non-practicing Catholic. But again, I think the Bible is awash in human storytelling and imagination.
then you are not catholic, catholics dont inerprit scriptures, the church does, that is what the difference between protestant and roman catholic. that is why there is a pope. You should brush up on your religion a bit...
 
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