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UrbanPancake

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I do respect the flag. But I will defend burning it, for the sake of Freedom of Expression and Speech. As an American we have Freedom, even if that means burning the flag than so be it.
 
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No. I don't know why your taking this personally. The flag is made of fabric, it is not the holy grail. It is a symbol yes. The flag is something that can be burned in the name of protest. When the government doesn't listen to its people sometimes it takes a good old fashion flag burning to get it.
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I believe there was a time when the Bald Eagle was endangered, and laws were passed that made it illegal to kill one. Are you saying we should have let it die out or perhaps the fact that the eagle means so much to us that we actually protected it?
 
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I say protect it because it is a living animal that is vital to the eco system, and it serves a purpose for it to exist. (It shouldn't be given preferential treatment becuase its a symbol for our country) If you think the Eagle is that big of a symbol then you would be against all forms of waterfront development. (Where it likes to make its nests)

-By the way I'm all for protecting the Bald Eagle.
 
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Protect the first amendment!!!! Burning the flag is a signal to our government that they're not doing something right. It is a form of protest that is protected by the constitution. To harm someone because they are burning it means your breaking the law. That last part deosn't sound to patriotic does it?
 
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Therefore, if you despise the flag you despise the American people and everything they've strived for.
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Hear hear. :cheers: Burning the flag or destroying any other symbol that people hold dear is a sign of disrespect and says, very clearly, what you think of them and their beliefs. You can't be surprised when they get pissed at you.

The vast majority of us like it here in the good ol' USofA. We don't hate our country - we love it. And we're not going to compromise or change just because a handful of malcontents think we should. If Kerry had won the election, you'd have had some leverage. But he didn't. Therefore, anyoe who hates this country and wants to burn our flag should just get the hell out instead of trying to change the majority to suit their minority wants.
 
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UrbanPancake

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Burning the flag isn't a sign of self hate. It is a form of protest. I have never burned the flag, but I respect the rights of someone else to do so. It wouldn't bother me in the least. I have my own crap to worry about. :lmao:
 
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Did you guys read my post at the top of the page? I have never burned a flag, but I respect the right for someone to do so. True the flag stands for honor and freedom, but if you burn it does that mean those values erode and vanish? No. The flag is just a symbol, if you burn it there will be another one to replace it.

How can you be mad at someone burning the flag, but let people wear it on their boxers and bras?
 
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To me, the biggest problem with burning our flag is the message it sends to others. If you get right down to it, it's just a symbol and a piece of fabric, just like UP said. But those savages in other countries see that they have allies over here and it emboldens them.

Think about the pictures you saw of Middle Eastern terrorist supporters chanting and burning our flag on 9-11. I don't know about you, but I had this insane desire to jump on a plane and smack the #### out of every one of them. When I see video of Americans INO doing the same thing, I think of them as savages and terrorists.

By burning our flag, you align yourself with the 9-11 killers and say you're right there with them.
 
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vraiblonde said:
To me, the biggest problem with burning our flag is the message it sends to others. If you get right down to it, it's just a symbol and a piece of fabric, just like UP said. But those savages in other countries see that they have allies over here and it emboldens them.

Think about the pictures you saw of Middle Eastern terrorist supporters chanting and burning our flag on 9-11. I don't know about you, but I had this insane desire to jump on a plane and smack the #### out of every one of them. When I see video of Americans INO doing the same thing, I think of them as savages and terrorists.

By burning our flag, you align yourself with the 9-11 killers and say you're right there with them.
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That is far-fetched.

I think buying smokes without the tax stamp is more in line with supporting terrorists in other countries then the burning of polyester blends.
 
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UrbanPancake said:
True the flag stands for honor and freedom, but if you burn it does that mean those values erode and vanish?
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It doesn't mean they DO erode and vanish, it just means the burner WISHES they would. And most of us think that's wrong.
 
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UrbanPancake

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Back in the 60's women burned their bras. Does that mean they wish they didn't have bozangas?

-maybe if they were killing their backs :killingme
 
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Aimhigh2000

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I think you are a confused person that doesn't understand the difference between women's lib, and freedom. Burning a bra is in no way related to flag burning. I am sure when women burned their bra's, crowds gathered not to watch the bra's.......but probably something more.....Burn a flag and see what kind of crowd gathers. :boxing:
 
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It was a comparison.

Do you think it would have been right for an African American to burn the flag back in the Jim Crow days?
 
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UrbanPancake said:
Back in the 60's women burned their bras. Does that mean they wish they didn't have bozangas?
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Yes, actually. They wished they weren't women and didn't have to do tedious things like give birth. They wanted to have the same rights as men (even though they already did). In short, they were protesting their own gender.

So it's essentially the same concept as flag-burning.
 
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