Damnit!!

transporter

Active Member
We have a freaking 5 yr old running this country.

“As a result of China’s retaliation and failure to change its practices, the President has ordered USTR to begin the process of imposing tariffs of 10 percent on an additional $200 billion of Chinese imports. This is an appropriate response under the authority of Section 301 to obtain the elimination of China’s harmful industrial policies. USTR will proceed with a transparent and comprehensive public notice and comment process prior to the imposition of final tariffs, as we have for previous tariffs.
https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2018/july/statement-us-trade-representative

This asinine tariffs idea never had any chance of working, isn't working and never will work. We hit them and everyone else hits us back. It's as predictable as the Sun rising in the East.

But the incompetent, unfit, leadership failure that is running this country just doesn't get the most primitive basic stuff. So instead of stopping this stupidity, they increase by a factor of 4 and have the gall to blame it on the Chinese because they reciprocated!!

So, if these go thru, China will retaliate in kind. More Americans will lost their jobs as companies that ship goods to China simply move production out of the US...more Chinese will lose their jobs as Chinese companies that ship to the US shift production out of China....and the next list of goods subject to tariffs will become more expensive in both countries.

The sheer stupidity of this is mind boggling...or it should be. For this CF of an Administration, it is just another day of desperately trying to deflect attention away from the Mueller probe.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
That 5 year old is doing a great job.

So much better than the last guy who we couldn't really find his age because his Birth Certificate was phony.
 

This_person

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[They] blame it on the Chinese because they reciprocated!!
I'm not sure if you're aware (and by your ignorance on the subject it would seem a quick education to eliminate the ignorance is in order), but here are some truths for you:

  1. In 2009, for every $1 that the United States bought from China, China bought $0.28 cents from the US, down from the previous year.
  2. China has a 30% tariff on motorcycles from the US, as well as digital equipment. Raisins are 35%.
  3. China has a value-added tax on American fertilizers - and ONLY American fertilizers.
  4. China demanded that R&D products must be "indigenous" to China, otherwise a product has no Chinese intellectual-property protection.
TranS, the US is blaming China because, well, my friend, China started with discriminatory practices against the United States. Their tariffs, money manipulation, intellectual-property manipulation, etc., are all counter to "free" trade; they're actively discriminatory to the US.

So, "blaming China" is not because they reciprocated; China is ratcheting up when WE reciprocate to THEM.

Again, we buy far more than we sell. If we stop buying, we increase American-made products (or, cheap products from other countries) and have little to lose in that. Some prices will probably rise, but so will some wages and workforce participation. By contrast, there is no consumer nation as large as the US, and losing us as a cash-cow will likely hurt them far more than us.

Does that mean we ALL get hurt (US and China)? Probably. Like any fight, all sides lose something. But, we have far less to lose than they do.
 
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vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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PREMO Member
We have a freaking 5 yr old running this country.



https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2018/july/statement-us-trade-representative

This asinine tariffs idea never had any chance of working, isn't working and never will work. We hit them and everyone else hits us back. It's as predictable as the Sun rising in the East.

But the incompetent, unfit, leadership failure that is running this country just doesn't get the most primitive basic stuff. So instead of stopping this stupidity, they increase by a factor of 4 and have the gall to blame it on the Chinese because they reciprocated!!

So, if these go thru, China will retaliate in kind. More Americans will lost their jobs as companies that ship goods to China simply move production out of the US...more Chinese will lose their jobs as Chinese companies that ship to the US shift production out of China....and the next list of goods subject to tariffs will become more expensive in both countries.

The sheer stupidity of this is mind boggling...or it should be. For this CF of an Administration, it is just another day of desperately trying to deflect attention away from the Mueller probe.
Poor little splodey head. :poorbaby:
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
The sheer stupidity of this is mind boggling...or it should be. For this CF of an Administration, it is just another day of desperately trying to deflect attention away from the Mueller probe.
Why would anyone want to deflect attention away from the Mueller probe.?
He is making a got damned fool of himself.
Keep giving him rope.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
Why would anyone want to deflect attention away from the Mueller probe.?
He is making a got damned fool of himself.
Keep giving him rope.
Which, it's actually sad to see people not following it based on what you just said.

How do we know people aren't following it? Start at about 5:17

[video=youtube;U-pQYw0iy-8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-pQYw0iy-8[/video]
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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How do we know people aren't following it? Start at about 5:17
This whole thing has become such a CF, with new irrelevant "details" coming through every day, that I think the hosts are correct that people on both sides of the spectrum no longer care and are tuning it out.

What I thought was more interesting was the misleading headline from AP.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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One day we'll notice that Trans hasn't been around for awhile, and it will be because he stroked out while ranting about President Trump.
 
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