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Kyle

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RoseRed

American Beauty
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"I’m committed to building an economy where my daughters have the same rights and opportunities as my sons."

Weird, considering one died as a very young child.
 

SamSpade

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The wage gap has been debunked, discredited and shown to be utter crap for decades now. I used to have this argument with my mom - so I KNOW it was a long time ago. As one responder noted, when you factor in job choice, willingness to work overtime and weekends and things like job danger - there's no gap. As the writer noted, this is comparing a part-time teacher to a full time male engineer.

My mom would try to make the same argument, saying that nurses in her hospital didn't make anywhere near the pay of a surgeon. Of course they don't, Mom - a surgeon is a MUCH more demanding skill, many more risks and takes years of experience plus the ability to do such a difficult job. And FEMALE surgeons make the SAME. She wouldn't see it, explaining that nurses do more of the day to day care and care for the same people.

I would go on about careers like engineering which require years of study and the ability to master science, math and technology to a degree that it can be used - and sadly, women do not go into it. "And why is THAT, do you think?". Well, now, Mom, you're talking about something that a LAW isn't going to fix. Yeah, well that's sad. Really sad, son.

I've had this discussion, and I've seen the data, and I've argued the data. The gap doesn't exist, and in some professions - like mine - there's a wage table based mostly on experience. If you're a certain grade and step - you all make the same and I might add, regardless of whether or not you do a good job.

But it doesn't matter - this has Jussie Smollett level of fakery all over it. Funny how you get a child's letter JUST when you need it.
 

Clem72

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"I’m committed to building an economy where my daughters have the same rights and opportunities as my sons."

Weird, considering one died as a very young child.
So now you are against equal pay for dead people?
 

Clem72

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The wage gap has been debunked, discredited and shown to be utter crap for decades now. I used to have this argument with my mom - so I KNOW it was a long time ago. As one responder noted, when you factor in job choice, willingness to work overtime and weekends and things like job danger - there's no gap. As the writer noted, this is comparing a part-time teacher to a full time male engineer.

My mom would try to make the same argument, saying that nurses in her hospital didn't make anywhere near the pay of a surgeon. Of course they don't, Mom - a surgeon is a MUCH more demanding skill, many more risks and takes years of experience plus the ability to do such a difficult job. And FEMALE surgeons make the SAME. She wouldn't see it, explaining that nurses do more of the day to day care and care for the same people.

I would go on about careers like engineering which require years of study and the ability to master science, math and technology to a degree that it can be used - and sadly, women do not go into it. "And why is THAT, do you think?". Well, now, Mom, you're talking about something that a LAW isn't going to fix. Yeah, well that's sad. Really sad, son.

I've had this discussion, and I've seen the data, and I've argued the data. The gap doesn't exist, and in some professions - like mine - there's a wage table based mostly on experience. If you're a certain grade and step - you all make the same and I might add, regardless of whether or not you do a good job.

But it doesn't matter - this has Jussie Smollett level of fakery all over it. Funny how you get a child's letter JUST when you need it.

Most of the early education teachers are women, most of HR departments are women. If women aren't being encouraged to learn math/science who's fault is it? If they aren't being hired, who's fault is it?
 

SamSpade

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PREMO Member
Most of the early education teachers are women, most of HR departments are women. If women aren't being encouraged to learn math/science who's fault is it? If they aren't being hired, who's fault is it?
This wasn't an argument I was going to win with my mom, and it's a classic example of "even if you win, you lose".
When it favored her argument, she went with it - if a chef was a male and made more than a waitress who was female - it was a wage gap.

"What happens when the waiter is male? Is it still a wage gap? No, it's a profession gap, and only in a COMMUNIST country would they pay a brain surgeon the same as a brick layer".
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
As one responder noted, when you factor in job choice, willingness to work overtime and weekends and things like job danger - there's no gap.


Also men are more aggressive in negotiating pay - on hiring and raises, women are not
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
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Ask most women and they will tell you that they are paid the same as their direct contemporaries. Like everything else the Democrats spew, this wage gap mantra is bullshit.
 

HemiHauler

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Probably fake: but the wage gap *is* real and it should be: women just don't produce as much as men. They get knocked up, endless appointments, sick, waaaaah! gotta stay home, waddle around. And when not knocked up, they bleed once a month, get all emotional and stay home to cry for a week.

Once you adjust wage to productivity for all of that, yes, there is no pay gap.
 

ontheriver

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Probably fake: but the wage gap *is* real and it should be: women just don't produce as much as men. They get knocked up, endless appointments, sick, waaaaah! gotta stay home, waddle around. And when not knocked up, they bleed once a month, get all emotional and stay home to cry for a week.

Once you adjust wage to productivity for all of that, yes, there is no pay gap.
So you don't know any successful, financially independent women....who still have a happy and fulfilled life?

Of course you don't. Up your game.
 
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StmarysCity79

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Women are paid on average 90 days less per year versus men doing the same job.

 
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