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Pete

Repete
Trouble in paradise? :whistle:

I read another story late last week that said that the AFL-CIO has already layed-off a quarter of their staff. How dare they? Do you have a union that represents you with the union?

From 33% of private sector employees down to 8%?

Democrats pushed NAFTA but it is the Republicans who are their enemies?

Democrats are worried the checks will stop coming in.

Many of the dissident unions are not happy about all the checks (their money) that were written willy nilly to Democrat campaigns by the AFL-CIO.

Will be interesting to see the implosion. If you get layed-off by the AFL-CIO (A.K.A. Big labor machine that is nothing more than another profit taking layer from workers) are you going to look for another union job?

I am sure that you will come in and spin this to make it all Republicans fault that Big Labor :

1. Is so corrupt and wasteful they pizzed off 1/3 of their members.

2. So unappealing that their membership has dropped 250%.

3. Hitched their wagon to democrats who really don't give a rats ass about workers, just the workers due's money converted into PAC campaign donations.

4. Has tried to play Big politics and failed. (Didn't they endorse Dick Gephart?) :loser:

5. Have basically bankrupt the one area they had locked up tight, the airline industry.

I think organized labor is not neccessarily a bad thing, but one thing is certain, organizations that are good do not implode.
 
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Pete

Repete
ylexot said:
:yeahthat: You beat me to posting the article, but you did a better job than I would have. :yay:
I was going to post it last week when I read the other article. I decided to wait to see what happened. Now I cannot find the other article that spelled out many of the dissident unions arguments.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
I noticed that the article doesn't spell out what caused the rift (poor journalism). It says:
"Our differences are so fundamental and so principled that at this point I don't think there is a chance there will be a change of course," said UFCW President Joe Hansen.
You'd think that the next sentence would be what those "fundamental and principled" differences are.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
I heard a blurb this morning on the news that it had to do with the AFL-CIO's concentration and spending on politics versus union membership and member issues.
 

Pete

Repete
Ken King said:
I heard a blurb this morning on the news that it had to do with the AFL-CIO's concentration and spending on politics versus union membership and member issues.
:yeahthat: The other article said that was one of the primary squabbles.
 

rraley

New Member
Ken King said:
I heard a blurb this morning on the news that it had to do with the AFL-CIO's concentration and spending on politics versus union membership and member issues.

Exactly; the AFL-CIO seems to have forgotten that union's draw power from strength in numbers, not from money and spending on campaigns...that's for coporations.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Am a member of the local AFGE.. and TRIED to quit, but with the money coming dirctly ouf of my pay to cover my dues, I don't know how to stop it. I was SOOO pissed when they TOLD me who to vote for.. KERRY.. and how much money they were throwing in his ring.. Governemnt workers, workers that support the military, supporting KERRY.. did they ever lose their friggin minds..
 

FromTexas

This Space for Rent
Actually, it was both not enough attention on gaining membership and on political reasons. The political reason was specifically that they spent too much putting money into politics and overfocused on Democratic candidates.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
itsbob said:
Am a member of the local AFGE.. and TRIED to quit, but with the money coming dirctly ouf of my pay to cover my dues, I don't know how to stop it. I was SOOO pissed when they TOLD me who to vote for.. KERRY.. and how much money they were throwing in his ring.. Governemnt workers, workers that support the military, supporting KERRY.. did they ever lose their friggin minds..
An employee must submit an SF-1188 to the Union Office for the revocation of an allotment no more than 2 weeks before, and no later than 2 weeks after the anniversary of the date on the SF-1187 form. The Union will verify the anniversary date and forward the request to the Payroll Customer Service Office. The anniversary date of the authorization for dues withholding, SF-1187, shall be 1 year from the first day (Sunday) of the first pay period that dues are initially withheld.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Ken King said:
An employee must submit an SF-1188 to the Union Office for the revocation of an allotment no more than 2 weeks before, and no later than 2 weeks after the anniversary of the date on the SF-1187 form. The Union will verify the anniversary date and forward the request to the Payroll Customer Service Office. The anniversary date of the authorization for dues withholding, SF-1187, shall be 1 year from the first day (Sunday) of the first pay period that dues are initially withheld.
Talk about jumping through hoops... I don't remember it being that hard to START it, and now I have to wait 7 months before I can stop it??
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
itsbob said:
Talk about jumping through hoops... I don't remember it being that hard to START it, and now I have to wait 7 months before I can stop it??
That's because they don't want you to quit once your money starts rolling in. :biggrin:
 
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