Debate thread?

[StanT]

One could take that as a reference to acts which include the tragedy in Benghazi, obviously, but there was clearly no effort made to label it an act of terrorism. One reason why this might be: According to U.S. law, acts of terrorism are premeditated. The Obama administration’s line for days following Obama’s Rose Garden statement suggested that the attack wasn’t premeditated. ‘An Act of Terror’? - By Patrick Brennan - The Corner - National Review Online

I was waiting on other feedback plus I'm sort of multi-tasking at the moment. "an act of terror" and "an act of terrorism" is very different.

What they were arguing about is if he called it "an act of terror" in the rose garden.

You may want to make this about the word terrorism, but that's not what they were saying. Watch the debate recap[/QUOTE]

But wait, osama bin laden is dead, but terrorism is still alive and well? Really? I thought that since bin laden is dead there would be no more terrorism. At least that's how Obama seems to see it, so what is it, act of terrorism or not?[/QUOTE]

Who, at any point in time, said that? Osama bin Laden is dead and that sends a message to any other future "masterminds":

In the best possible Liam Neeson voice: "I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you."

 

[thatguy]

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What they were arguing about is if he called it "an act of terror" in the rose garden.

You may want to make this about the word terrorism, but that's not what they were saying. Watch the debate recap

Right, I get that but the complaint was that America thought they were reacting to a you tube video which is what I consider "an act of terror."
"An act of terrorism" is planned and premeditated. This administration had warnings and they failed to act, properly.

So the moderator was correct when she told Romney that he had it wrong.

You can continue to argue about how you would have liked it phrased if you want. But Obama DID describe this as an act of terror on 9/12 in the rose garden.

 

[StanT]

But at least Romney has some experience at something.

Obama has no record of accomplishment other than failure.

Right, experience at bankrupting companies so he can reap in the profits. That is the experience Romney has.

Obama has the experience of pulling this country out of the worst recession we have seen in most of our lifetimes, and there are absolutely no signs pointing to anything but a continued recovery.

 

[Bay_Kat]

Why does Obama and Biden keep bringing up the fact that bin laden is dead other than to say we won't have any more problems with terrorism. Like killing him is going to make all the difference in the world. There are more waiting right behind to take his place and they let their guard down and see what happens?

 

[Dakota]

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So the moderator was correct when she told Romney that he had it wrong.

You can continue to argue about how you would have liked it phrased if you want. But Obama DID describe this as an act of terror on 9/12 in the rose garden.

I agree but I knew where Romney's line of thinking was heading. He called it "an act of terror" and Romney's point was it took 2 weeks for the American people to learn it wasn't a youtube video but a preplanned, premeditated act of terrorism.

 

[itsbob]

Right, experience at bankrupting companies so he can reap in the profits. That is the experience Romney has.

Obama has the experience of pulling this country out of the worst recession we have seen in most of our lifetimes, and there are absolutely no signs pointing to anything but a continued recovery.

Well you've just proven yourself to be a blatant liar and party shill...

 

[thatguy]

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Why does Obama and Biden keep bringing up the fact that bin laden is dead other than to say we won't have any more problems with terrorism. Like killing him is going to make all the difference in the world. There are more waiting right behind to take his place and they let their guard down and see what happens?

One of theory's is that benghazi was attacked in retribution for the killing of an Al quida top operative. Al libi or something like that. We killed him in June with a drone. The fight continues :shrug:

 

[StanT]

I agree but I knew where Romney's line of thinking was heading. He called it "an act of terror" and Romney's point was it took 2 weeks for the American people to learn it wasn't a youtube video but a preplanned, premeditated act of terrorism.

And do you think, for one moment, that Romney would go blabbing State Department intelligence out on the internet minutes after he had received it himself? ...actually, you might not want to answer that, might not help your cause.

Romney's point was immaterial. Whether it was preplanned, or a reaction by a bunch of zealots to a bigot's offensive video is irrelevant. What matters is Americans died and what we are going to do about it.

 

[StanT]

Well you've just proven yourself to be a blatant liar and party shill...

Which part, the part about Romney bankrupting companies for profit or the country recovering from the recession? Because I'll gladly call you out as an idiot for denying either one.

 

[TPD]

It appears the undecided Fox News focus group tonight has swung towards Romney after tonight's debate.

 

[Bay_Kat]

It appears the undecided Fox News focus group tonight has swung towards Romney after tonight's debate.

I just saw that, and you're still coherent. Interesting

 

[TPD]

I just saw that, and you're still coherent. Interesting

Haha - surprising!

 

[Bay_Kat]

Haha - surprising!

I'd be out on the floor by now if I was drinking along with the game, I think it was a set up, whoever made that game knew what the questions were going to be and wanted everyone to drink and pass out so no one watched the entire debate. If this was a weekend, it might have worked.

 

[TPD]

I'd be out on the floor by now if I was drinking along with the game, I think it was a set up, whoever made that game knew what the questions were going to be and wanted everyone to drink and pass out so no one watched the entire debate. If this was a weekend, it might have worked.

I love sangria - drank over half the bottle tonight. And it's cheap - something I can afford until Romney becomes president!

 

[Rommey]

I would have stood up and cheered in my living room if Obama has said that.

...and what would you have done if Romney said that?

Because IMO, they both could have rebutted almost every question that way.

 

[Bay_Kat]

What they were arguing about is if he called it "an act of terror" in the rose garden.

You may want to make this about the word terrorism, but that's not what they were saying. Watch the debate recap

But wait, osama bin laden is dead, but terrorism is still alive and well? Really? I thought that since bin laden is dead there would be no more terrorism. At least that's how Obama seems to see it, so what is it, act of terrorism or not?[/QUOTE]

Who, at any point in time, said that? Osama bin Laden is dead and that sends a message to any other future "masterminds":

In the best possible Liam Neeson voice: "I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you."[/QUOTE]

You quoted me on something I didn't say, you may want to check that.

 

[thatguy]

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It's the quote feature in the WAP. It does funny things when you quote someone who also quoted someone

 

[TPD]

So if Obama was calling it terror the day after, why did it take him another 2 weeks to call it an act of terror again? Wordsmithing at its finest - use it to your advantage when needed!

 

[mamatutu]

It is history that no incumbent/candidate prez that lost in the first debate has ever become prez. I hope history is correct, because if Obama becomes prez again, it will be America's undoing. jmo.

 

[PsyOps]

So the moderator was correct when she told Romney that he had it wrong.

You can continue to argue about how you would have liked it phrased if you want. But Obama DID describe this as an act of terror on 9/12 in the rose garden.

President Obama Speaks on the Consulate Attack in Benghazi - YouTube

No she wasn’t. Obama made one reference to the word “terror”. That word was never in direct reference to the attack. Obama started his speech by saying it was “an attack”, not a terrorist attack. Then he refers to the people that committed this act of TERRORISM as ‘killers’ not terrorists. He made a vague reference to the video then went on and on to call the attack nothing more than an “attack” not a TERRORIST ATTACK. Not once does he refer to the actual attack as a terrorist attack in that entire speech. Only in the end he says “No acts of terror will shake the resolve of this nation…” Then goes on to refer to the attack as an “act” not an act of terrorism.

There is a difference between “terror” and “terrorism”. Someone breaking into your house to rob you is an act of terror. A TERRORIST group overrunning an embassy with RPGs and automatic weapons and killing everyone inside is an act of TERRORISM. Obama NEVER referred to this attack as an act of terrorism.

Then to make matters worse he sent people out for 12 days to tell everyone to DENY it was a terrorist attack and that it was a spontaneous response to some video. So even if he did say it was a terrorist attack on Sept 12, how do you explain the propaganda for 12 days claiming it was a protest in response to a video?

Obama FAILED big time here. You can justify this all you want, but he never called the attack a terrorist attack and went on a 12 day campaign of lies trying to cover up the security failures.