Delaware Left Lane Rule Change

[aps45819]

They cull the herd over there. If you drive unsafely, you get killed and tough chit. Pretty soon all that's left are good drivers.

Really.

And over here we don't cull the herd, we lower the standards.

Can't park? no problem. We've got cars that will parallel park for you.
Your SUV roll over because you can't bother to check you tires? No problem. We'll pass a law requiring tire pressure sensors.

Our standards are so low now that even asking people for a simple courtesy like not blocking the road causes outrage

 

[vraiblonde]

This guy is an azzhole. His speed differential is too high, his clearances for lane changes are unsafe, he's truly a menace.

But if you asked him if he's a safe driver, I'm sure he'd tell you yes. And he'd think *you* are a granny.

Everything is relative.

 

[vraiblonde]

Our standards are so low now that even asking people for a simple courtesy like not blocking the road causes outrage

That would be your interpretation.

I was at the Safeway in Frederick years ago and this lady two people in front of me at the register was taking her sweet time, writing a check, putting her things back in order, etc. This kid behind her started getting agitated - "Any day now " The lady calmly looked back at him and said, "Wait your turn." The kid replied, "It is my turn!" to which the lady responded, "I'm still standing here, which means it's my turn. When I move, then it will be your turn."

It means, piggeh, that just because you want to be in a particular space on the road, that doesn't mean you have a right to be there. Especially if someone else is already occupying that space. Quite simply, you must wait your turn. To not do so is discourteous.

 

[Gilligan]

It means, piggeh, that just because you want to be in a particular space on the road, that doesn't mean you have a right to be there. Especially if someone else is already occupying that space. Quite simply, you must wait your turn. To not do so is discourteous.

LOL...go try that little personal 'experiment' in vehicular kinetics and momentum conservation on a nice open stretch of highway between...say..Hamburg and Kiel.

 

[vraiblonde]

LOL...go try that little personal 'experiment' in vehicular kinetics and momentum conservation on a nice open stretch of highway between...say..Hamburg and Kiel.

The Krauts lost the war. Two of them, in fact. Not likely I'll care about what they consider successful behavior.

I mean, I hear ya. I feel the exact same way about shopping cart oblivions. But we'll note that there's no law protecting me from being inconvenienced by those durhards.

 

[aps45819]

The Krauts lost the war. Two of them, in fact. Not likely I'll care about what they consider successful behavior.

when did we last win one?

 

[thatguy]

when did we last win one?

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seriously, did we lose in Iraq?

 

[vraiblonde]

when did we last win one?

Well, that really has everything to do with the topic at hand and the comment I made. Thank you soooo much for your insightful contribution.

 

[glhs837]

But if you asked him if he's a safe driver, I'm sure he'd tell you yes. And he'd think *you* are a granny.

Everything is relative.

And, when other traffic isnt around, he probably is. But his interaction with traffic is the issue. Part of being a safe driver in traffic is accepting that other folks have the right to not be hassled by your actions.

That would be your interpretation.

I was at the Safeway in Frederick years ago and this lady two people in front of me at the register was taking her sweet time, writing a check, putting her things back in order, etc. This kid behind her started getting agitated - "Any day now " The lady calmly looked back at him and said, "Wait your turn." The kid replied, "It is my turn!" to which the lady responded, "I'm still standing here, which means it's my turn. When I move, then it will be your turn."

It means, piggeh, that just because you want to be in a particular space on the road, that doesn't mean you have a right to be there. Especially if someone else is already occupying that space. Quite simply, you must wait your turn. To not do so is discourteous.

It means, in some case, that the person at the counter could do what they can to pack thier stuff up in an expiditious manner and not make me wait while she counts every last penny back into the pennies portion of her change purse, and could fill out the check register from the reciept when she gets home.

Courtesy, yet again, goes both ways, and expecting everyone else to be courteous to you while you decide you can do what ever you want with no consideration, that "piggy" to me. Your ""turn" should be decided based on the group around you and the most good for the most of them, not your selfish desire not to change lanes because its a hassle. why should I have to shoulder all the hassle? I'm willing to take half or better, but not all.

 

[ironintestines]

Driving etiquette is low on the list around here for some reason. To me, it's the same as people who fart in elevators. Just common individuals taking glee knowing their action is affecting others in a negative way.

I am not a fan of left lane cholesterol.

 

[SamSpade]

It means, in some case, that the person at the counter could do what they can to pack thier stuff up in an expiditious manner and not make me wait while she counts every last penny back into the pennies portion of her change purse, and could fill out the check register from the reciept when she gets home.

Agreed. Courtesy goes both ways. I could just as easily block an aisle in the store and tell someone trying to get by that I was there FIRST and they should wait until I am done - or I could do the reasonably courteous thing and either NOT block the aisle or show the good sense to get out of the way.

But now I know that I have carte blanche to be a jerk about it, I intend to pay for my groceries with loose pennies and chat with people while standing in the crosswalk in front of the store.

I more or less favor this law. I've seen where it is implemented and traffic tends to move better this way. I spent years driving up and down Rte 4 in Calvert and along Pennsylvania Ave inside the Beltway only to meet with drivers going any particular speed in any lane they chose, and I gave up trying to navigate through it.

On the other hand - I don't see this kind of law ever being enforced up here. I've seen it down south where slowpokes hog the left lane merely to avoid people merging in too slowly.

 

[bcp]

Driving etiquette is low on the list around here for some reason. To me, it's the same as people who fart in elevators. Just common individuals taking glee knowing their action is affecting others in a negative way.

I am not a fan of left lane cholesterol.

With the ignorance going on around one when driving, I think that worrying about the a-hole speeding up behind you should be one of the least of your concerns.
Speed limit is speed limit, if people are going the speed limit, then this left lane cholesterol you speak of is in fact caused by whatever official decided the limit for that road.
dont take it out on those that try to follow the rules of society, call the DOT and demand that the limit be raised to 70 or 80 or whatever you feel is correct.

by the way, do you also feel that people should drive any speed the wish through your community streets? 25 is a rather low speed to adhere to when in neighborhoods, I much prefer 50 or 60.

 

[thatguy]

With the ignorance going on around one when driving, I think that worrying about the a-hole speeding up behind you should be one of the least of your concerns.
Speed limit is speed limit, if people are going the speed limit, then this left lane cholesterol you speak of is in fact caused by whatever official decided the limit for that road.
dont take it out on those that try to follow the rules of society, call the DOT and demand that the limit be raised to 70 or 80 or whatever you feel is correct.

by the way, do you also feel that people should drive any speed the wish through your community streets? 25 is a rather low speed to adhere to when in neighborhoods, I much prefer 50 or 60.

So i guess you support the idea of placing governor in cars so that they can't exceed the posted limits?

BTW, if you are doing the speed limit there is no reason for you to be next to someone who is also doing the speed limit. In fact, you are much less safe traveling next to a car moving at the same speed as you than you would be following them at a safe distance.

 

[vraiblonde]

Part of being a safe driver in traffic is accepting that other folks have the right to not be hassled by your actions.

I'm sorry, what was that?

It means, in some case, that the person at the counter could do what they can to pack thier stuff up in an expiditious manner and not make me wait while she counts every last penny back into the pennies portion of her change purse, and could fill out the check register from the reciept when she gets home.

Typically we're talking 30 seconds here. Really. If your life is so busy and demanding that 30 seconds will make or break you, well, I don't know what to say. In my world, it's not worth kirking out over.

Same with speeding. Do the math on it. You have, let's say, 30 miles to travel. How much time do you save by going 70 mph instead of 55? Seven whole minutes!! During which time I'm sure you could be curing cancer or negotiating whirled peas instead of wasting it driving a car.

This isn't about getting anywhere faster, because the time actually saved is negligible. It's about impatience and me-firstism, and not being able to stand actually being behind someone else.

 

[thatguy]

This isn't about getting anywhere faster, because the time actually saved is negligible. It's about impatience and me-firstism, and not being able to stand actually having someone pass you.

otherwise, why not just travel in the right lane as is suggessted by the state?

 

[vraiblonde]

otherwise, why not just travel in the right lane as is suggessted by the state?

Clearly you know you're wrong, which is why you felt the need to change my post.

 

[thatguy]

Clearly you know you're wrong, which is why you felt the need to change my post.

what exactly am i wrong about?
I changed your post to show that the me-firstism runs both ways

 

[bcp]

Well, all it boils down to is this.
If Im in front, the speeder has to wait until I feel like moving over for him, or he decides to pass when he can.

its so simple a concept.

I drive the speed limit, therefore, when behind me, so do others.

 

[PsyOps]

Whatever. All I know is that you'll never see some idiot passing people on the right over there. Here?..its almost routine driving practice.

Actually when I was in Germany (from '90 to '93) I routinely saw passing on the right. You have the same problem there as you do here with folks in the left lane going slower than the person behind and they don't move. The person behind will flash the lights, give it a few seconds, then pass on the right. And just like here, they get all irate about it. But there it is the law that slower traffic must move to the right. The left lane is definitely the FAST lane.

One of the things that is changing, from what I hear, is they are starting to realize they have to set speed limits. Germany had (I don't know if they still do) something like the 1st or 2nd highest mortality rate in auto accidents because of their massive speeds. Now, from what I hear, just about every autobahn has speed limits. I remember going up the autobahn to Frankfurt airport there was one section that actually have a speed camera on a bridge. It was constantly flashing.

 

[SamSpade]

I'm sorry, what was that?


Typically we're talking 30 seconds here.

If that's all it was, I wouldn't care. I can live with 30 seconds, although at the time, you don't have any idea how long it will be.

But I've been behind people chugging along - usually they are texting or on their cell, oblivious to traffic - the entire trip home, and somehow manage to keep getting stuck at traffic lights I might otherwise have passed. And those extra minutes when you need a bathroom stop seem a lot longer.

I know I've been on highways with trucks in the travel lane - and a schmuck in the passing lane who won't pull over - for miles. It's frustrating to be behind such a turd for twenty miles especially when it's nigh impossible for them NOT to know they're being a jerk.

Seriously - if you are not passing anyone - move over. How hard is that? It's the whole reason they put those lanes there. It's the reason they don't allow large vehicles in the leftmost lanes on large highways. To my thinking, it's the same kind of thing when you're walking through the mall and some kids decide to walk eight abreast and you'd really like to get by.