Democrats aborted the 2000 election?

[Hessian]

Look at this statistical analysis and its conclusions...

Yes, another paradox of life is exhibited: Those that scream the loudest for Abortion rights find less and less willing to support their cause.....because they aborted their prospective supporters.
Can the Liberals get any brighter?

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110005277

 

[SmallTown]

yea, because we know that every eligible person registers to vote, and all registered voters participate in elections

 

[rraley]

This article suggests that liberals have more abortions and I am sure that is the case. And liberals having abortions has caused less liberals to be born. But what this article fails to point out is that if abortion was criminalized, these liberal women would go into the back alley, have their unsafe abortion, and die thus leaving not only one less liberal in the form of their child, but also themselves.

 

[Warron]

That has to be one of the more unique studies I have ever read. Contrasting abortion with a reduction in future votes. I think they ignored too may relavant factors in coming to their conclusion though.

I also don't believe that children are ideological clones of their parents. Children might share some, if not many of their parents belief's, but rarely all. I also don't believe that many people, if any, are completely conservative or liberal in every view. Most move from one philosophy to the other depending on the topic.

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by rraley
But what this article fails to point out is that if abortion was criminalized, these liberal women would go into the back alley, have their unsafe abortion, and die thus leaving not only one less liberal in the form of their child, but also themselves.

And your point is.......?

 

[Hessian]

Now I realize that "back Alley" is a figure of speech...but, if women are "more informed than ever before" as asserted in another thread, I would guess that women would have more knowledge about all the risks of of a "back alley" abortion.--thus deciding to avoid them.

I would say that the argument in the article is rational and accurate....it would be interesting to raise the question at a Kerry Q&A session...

"Mr Kerry, in light of the information that Liberals have distinctly more abortions than conservatives, does it bother you that your policies are destroying a whole generation of dependant voters?"

 

[sifl]

Originally posted by Warron
I also don't believe that children are ideological clones of their parents. Children might share some, if not many of their parents belief's, but rarely all.

From the article:

Here's what we know from several generations of social science research about children:

• They tend to absorb the values of their parents.

• They tend to have the same political views as their family (parents, siblings, immediate relatives) and share common views on political causes.

• They tend to develop the same lifestyle as their family.

Guess whether you believe it or not is up to you.

 

[vraiblonde]

Which just goes to show you that liberals aren't so smart after all. If they were, they'd opt for modern birth control methods instead of abortion.

 

[Warron]

Originally posted by sifl
Guess whether you believe it or not is up to you.

I read the article. And short of some very credible references, I'm not likely to take much of what they say as fact.

 

[Tonio]

Aren't most young single women likely to be Democrats? If so, that might explain the higher abortion figures for Democrats. I don't have any stats, but I would guess that most of the women having abortions are young and single.

 

[rraley]

The point I was alluding to earlier in my post was that illegal abortions not only put unborn children at risk but their mothers as well. Women may be more informed than ever, but the fact remains that in an emotional traumatic situation such as an unwanted pregnancy, the rational mind could cease to exist and women could go to the back alley.

 

[Hessian]

I'll slide off topic for a moment...
I believe that there are thousands of couples who would love to adopt an American child right now...I know that in my small church we have had about a 1/2 dozen adoptions from China alone...Don't you think it would make sense to have stiffer abortion laws and more lenient adoption laws?

Maybe the left is afraid of all the Godly parents who want to indoctrinate their offspring and decide that death is better?
(pretty sinister sounding huh!)

 

[rraley]

Abortion is just such a difficult subject. I have not really fully made my mind up on the matter. I am a devout Roman Catholic and I firmly believe that life begins at conception and that abortion is wrong. I believe that a world without abortion is much better than a world with it. I truly want to find a solution that will limit abortions.

I am not at all convinced that outlawing abortions will decrease their number. Prior to Roe v. Wade it is estimated that about five hundred thousand abortions were executed a year (and that estimate is most likely lower than what actually occurred). I firmly believe that if abortion is outlawed, women will go to the back alley where not only will one life be lost, but the likelihood of two lost lives will greatly increase. That is a scenario that I do not want to see at all. I think that waging a war for the hearts and minds of young pregnant women will help more than just telling them that they cannot have an abortion.

But in the end, abortion is just too complex of an issue to level a single-sided answer to.

 

[Tonio]

Excellent post, RRaley. Most of the time I stay away from the issue, because it's so difficult and because people are so passionate about it. I've always felt that as a man, any opinion I may have on abortion may not be as valid as a woman's opinion. That's because I don't have the capability to conceive and bear children. This would be the case no matter what side of the issue I was on, or what side the woman was on. It would feel like I was passing judgment on the woman, like I was presuming that I was God.

I would feel the same way if the issue was heroic measures. I've never had to deal with the trauma of having a comatose family member on life support after all hope of recovery was gone. I simply don't know what it's like to be faced with such a torturous decision. So it would be morally and ethically wrong for me to tell people in that situation what to do about their loved ones.

 

[vraiblonde]

I have a very practical and unemotional view of abortion. I feel that any woman who would let a doctor chop her infant into pieces and suck it out of her womb, then throw it in the trash, probably shouldn't be raising children. So I'm all for abortion and think more people should get them.

What's funny is that whenever I tell my more "progressive" acquaintences this, they get excited when I say I'm pro-abortion, then outraged when I tell them why.