Democrats Hating On Joe

[GURPS]

Democrats Start Blaming Biden For High Gas Prices, Slam His ‘Policy Band-Aid’ Of Releasing Oil Reserves



Democrat lawmakers are starting to blame Democrat President Joe Biden for high gas prices across the country that are threatening the party’s majorities in both chambers of Congress in the upcoming midterm elections.

“There is a variety of contributing impacts, but certainly I think the buck stops with the president,” Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-VA) said in an interview this week. “And I’m proud to be among those legislators on Capitol Hill that continue to ring the alarm bells about how serious this is.”

 

[Hijinx]

If things are getting so bad for democrats that they are testing stepping off the reservation that tell us things are really bad.

 

[Kyle]

Joe is doing what the Marxist base want him to do.

Those Democrats that are mad, are severely out of touch with their party.

 

[limblips]

With the midterms less than a year away the dems see that there is no way Joe and the Ho fix things so it is time to distance from them. If the Repubs blow this midterm it will be the right's equivalent of hrc losing to DJT.

 

[SamSpade]

Releasing 50 bil. barrels of oil won't do crap for the market and most of it will end up abroad, because that's how oil markets work. It's not a Band-Aid at all. It's politics. The one thing it DOES do is make money for the government, who is selling oil they bought at bargain basement prices and is selling at current ones.

 

[vraiblonde]

It's the GOP's to lose at this point, and I have no doubt they'll be all like, "Oh we must distance ourselves from Trump! We must denounce MTG! We must do a bunch of stupid things to make potential Republican voters smack their heads and stay home! I know! Let's build a statue to LeBron James! THAT will make the moderates vote Republican! See us being all woke?"

 

[Kyle]

It's the GOP's to lose at this point, and I have no doubt they'll be all like, "Oh we must distance ourselves from Trump! We must denounce MTG! We must do a bunch of stupid things to make potential Republican voters smack their heads and stay home! I know! Let's build a statue to LeBron James! THAT will make the moderates vote Republican! See us being all woke?"

The GOP is every bit as Gutless as the DNC is Evil.

 

[SamSpade]

It's the GOP's to lose at this point, and I have no doubt they'll be all like, "Oh we must distance ourselves from Trump! We must denounce MTG! We must do a bunch of stupid things to make potential Republican voters smack their heads and stay home! I know! Let's build a statue to LeBron James! THAT will make the moderates vote Republican! See us being all woke?"

What's interesting to me is that SOME of the Dems are clearly signaling they're not all in - with the progressives. This kind of wishy-washy behavior is to be expected in districts that are narrowly won or a candidate rides in on coattails. But the ones distancing themselves from Trump are doing the same thing - they're protecting their asses.

Politically it's cowardice - to us. Politicians must handle two situations and one is they want to accomplish some things, but they can't accomplish them at ALL, if they're not still in office. I was watching Trump on Hannity late last night (it was an amalgam of prior shows) and he mentioned that his biggest challenge wasn't China or North Korea or any of a host of things - it was continued political survival. It was the relentless onslaught of AMERICAN press whose seemingly sworn duty is to attack whomever is in office (albeit lately - meaning the last 30 years - it seems to be just Republicans. The press was brutal to Johnson (I remember a joke about Johnson in the hospital - he got hit by a motorboat on his morning stroll) and Carter - much less so Clinton - but they've been kissing the ass of everyone on the left since then.

What I am saying is, it may seem cowardly to adjust your position - but it will do you NO GOOD to hold fast to a position that will lose the election.

Bear in mind, THIS cycle of elections faces something different - re-districting. To my knowledge every state will do it, regardless of whether it loses or gains districts. I might be wrong, but I believe they can all do it. You might find yourself a Democrat representing a district whose composition changes, WHILE YOU'RE IN OFFICE. Bear in mind - if you don't keep your job - it is likely to go to the opposition, and your opinions on issues and your vote will no longer matter.

 

[HemiHauler]

Releasing 50 bil. barrels of oil won't do crap for the market and most of it will end up abroad, because that's how oil markets work. It's not a Band-Aid at all. It's politics. The one thing it DOES do is make money for the government, who is selling oil they bought at bargain basement prices and is selling at current ones.

I think everyone understands it will have no impact on gas prices at the pump. The bigger story is that numerous non-OPEC nations are doing the same thing. They are trying to send the signal that we will increase production or loosen regulations if OPEC doesn’t knock it off.

OF COURSE, it will equally have no effect, as OPEC’s main strategy at this point is to wait for the US shale industry to ramp back up again, as they will because oil is well above the break-even point now. Then, OPEC increases production and floods the market, oil dumps back to sub-$30 and again sidelines our shale industry.

Also, the government doesn’t “make money” from these releases from the SPR. The government can create money at will and “profits” aren’t really a thing. Money has no value for government, since again: they are the sole issuer of our currency and create it out of thin air.

 

[vraiblonde]

What's interesting to me is that SOME of the Dems are clearly signaling they're not all in - with the progressives. This kind of wishy-washy behavior is to be expected in districts that are narrowly won or a candidate rides in on coattails. But the ones distancing themselves from Trump are doing the same thing - they're protecting their asses.

Politically it's cowardice - to us. Politicians must handle two situations and one is they want to accomplish some things, but they can't accomplish them at ALL, if they're not still in office. I was watching Trump on Hannity late last night (it was an amalgam of prior shows) and he mentioned that his biggest challenge wasn't China or North Korea or any of a host of things - it was continued political survival. It was the relentless onslaught of AMERICAN press whose seemingly sworn duty is to attack whomever is in office (albeit lately - meaning the last 30 years - it seems to be just Republicans. The press was brutal to Johnson (I remember a joke about Johnson in the hospital - he got hit by a motorboat on his morning stroll) and Carter - much less so Clinton - but they've been kissing the ass of everyone on the left since then.

What I am saying is, it may seem cowardly to adjust your position - but it will do you NO GOOD to hold fast to a position that will lose the election.

Bear in mind, THIS cycle of elections faces something different - re-districting. To my knowledge every state will do it, regardless of whether it loses or gains districts. I might be wrong, but I believe they can all do it. You might find yourself a Democrat representing a district whose composition changes, WHILE YOU'RE IN OFFICE. Bear in mind - if you don't keep your job - it is likely to go to the opposition, and your opinions on issues and your vote will no longer matter.

I think a lot of the problem is that these people forget why they're there, and that is to represent the people of their district or state in Congress. Instead they represent their political Party, which is why someone like Manchin or Sinema is so infuriating to them. Almost every single day I see some durhard griping about lack of Party unity, which completely and totally misses the point of their actual job description.

And unfortunately We the People have no idea why we elect these people, either. We simplify it down to a Super Bowl game - our team vs. their team, which is why so many party zealots can't even name their representatives. They don't care as long as what they perceive as "their team" wins.

 

[SamSpade]

Also, the government doesn’t “make money” from these releases from the SPR.

To-MAY-to, to-mah-to. They do in fact, purchase the oil at one point, and they do in fact, sell it at another and the difference - heretofore to be called "profit" - they can use at will. Yes, they can "create" currency out of thin air, but we all agree it's not the preferred way to do things. It devalues all of the currency in existence by a certain amount. Since we have a LOT out there - it takes a while before it does serious damage. But I'm not at all pleased with the fact that a lifetime of saving and retirement planning can be crushed by government meddling.

Re-directing the "profit" from selling oil makes their budgeting legerdemain look better. At least on paper. It's pretending before the masses that it's helping the gas prices. The current gas problem IS of their own making.

An old buddy of mine and I have long since abandoned discussion of printing money with a mutual acquaintance who seems to believe the government has an infinite supply of wealth simply by printing it. They do have an infinite supply of currency - but not wealth.

 

[Monello]

What's interesting to me is that SOME of the Dems are clearly signaling they're not all in - with the progressives. This kind of wishy-washy behavior is to be expected in districts that are narrowly won or a candidate rides in on coattails. But the ones distancing themselves from Trump are doing the same thing - they're protecting their asses.

Politically it's cowardice - to us. Politicians must handle two situations and one is they want to accomplish some things, but they can't accomplish them at ALL, if they're not still in office. I was watching Trump on Hannity late last night (it was an amalgam of prior shows) and he mentioned that his biggest challenge wasn't China or North Korea or any of a host of things - it was continued political survival. It was the relentless onslaught of AMERICAN press whose seemingly sworn duty is to attack whomever is in office (albeit lately - meaning the last 30 years - it seems to be just Republicans. The press was brutal to Johnson (I remember a joke about Johnson in the hospital - he got hit by a motorboat on his morning stroll) and Carter - much less so Clinton - but they've been kissing the ass of everyone on the left since then.

What I am saying is, it may seem cowardly to adjust your position - but it will do you NO GOOD to hold fast to a position that will lose the election.

Bear in mind, THIS cycle of elections faces something different - re-districting. To my knowledge every state will do it, regardless of whether it loses or gains districts. I might be wrong, but I believe they can all do it. You might find yourself a Democrat representing a district whose composition changes, WHILE YOU'RE IN OFFICE. Bear in mind - if you don't keep your job - it is likely to go to the opposition, and your opinions on issues and your vote will no longer matter.

This is an argument for term limits. Politicians vote so they can stay in power instead of voting how the majority of their constituents feel about an issue. They focus on getting reelected and raising campaign cash instead of rolling up their sleeves and doing legislative stuff.

 

[SamSpade]

This is an argument for term limits. Politicians vote so they can stay in power instead of voting how the majority of their constituents feel about an issue. They focus on getting reelected and raising campaign cash instead of rolling up their sleeves and doing legislative stuff.

I do think that many BEGIN their career in earnest - only to be caught up in this. Before long, they're pressured into cutting deals and winning donors. And once they cross that line, they're done.

 

[Hijinx]

I think a lot of the problem is that these people forget why they're there, and that is to represent the people of their district or state in Congress. Instead they represent their political Party, which is why someone like Manchin or Sinema is so infuriating to them.

Well I may be wrong (I was once, but later found out I wasn't) but I believe that maybe Manchin, and Sinema woke up and started seeing their people looking at the Democrat party screwing up and they started representing them ahead of the rush.

 

[Kinnakeet]

I think a lot of the problem is that these people forget why they're there, and that is to represent the people of their district or state in Congress. Instead they represent their political Party, which is why someone like Manchin or Sinema is so infuriating to them. Almost every single day I see some durhard griping about lack of Party unity, which completely and totally misses the point of their actual job description.

And unfortunately We the People have no idea why we elect these people, either. We simplify it down to a Super Bowl game - our team vs. their team, which is why so many party zealots can't even name their representatives. They don't care as long as what they perceive as "their team" wins.

Very well said