Dept of Ed going away

[PeoplesElbow]

Haven't really seen a real answer other than the sky is falling.

Does this mean the federal funding goes away and states will have to raise more money to continue down the same path?

 

[Ken King]

Haven't really seen a real answer other than the sky is falling.

Does this mean the federal funding goes away and states will have to raise more money to continue down the same path?

Statement from Linda McMahon -

Closing the Department does not mean cutting off funds from those who depend on them—we will continue to support K-12 students, students with special needs, college student borrowers, and others who rely on essential programs. We’re going to follow the law and eliminate the bureaucracy responsibly by working through Congress to ensure a lawful and orderly transition.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Statement from Linda McMahon -

Interesting, I wonder who is going to be setting policy for how the money is used.

I see the Dept of Ed "recreated" the very next D administration.

 

[Ken King]

Interesting, I wonder who is going to be setting policy for how the money is used.

I see the Dept of Ed "recreated" the very next D administration.

Unless Congress legislatively eliminates it.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Im sure Maryland will figure out how to explain they need more money from us because of it.

 

[stgislander]

Interesting, I wonder who is going to be setting policy for how the money is used.

The Depts of Education for each state.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

The Depts of Education for each state.

As it should be, but will each administration want them to do what they want?

For example now shut off funding for teaching trans stuff, next D admin only fund them if they do?

 

[Bann]

I love these mental midgets in Congress and that idiot Randi Weingarten - who are railing against the closing of the DOE. It's shameful for them to claiming that Special Education is going to be done away with.

I.D.E.A.(Individuals with Disabilities Education Act)is a federal law!! (started out as PL-94-142) -Special Education is a RIGHT for special needs students from age 3 to the age of 21. Of course, it will be funded. (Can it be administered differently? Of course... that's a different discussion)

All of them should be in special education themselves.

 

[stgislander]

As it should be, but will each administration want them to do what they want?

For example now shut off funding for teaching trans stuff, next D admin only fund them if they do?

Well, that why the Reps in Congress have to formally disestablish the DOE (if they can). Just so the next Dem administration can't reverse everything.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Well, that why the Reps in Congress have to formally disestablish the DOE (if they can). Just so the next Dem administration can't reverse everything.

That's what I'm getting at, someone has to administer that money. For a nightmare scenario AOC is the next president, imagine the crap she would claim has to be taught to get the money.

 

[Bann]

This is why all local politics matter.

Over here in Calvert we have worked extremely hard to get conservative members on the school board. And we did it. I'm not saying there are not problems because there are!

It's important to pay attention at the local level as to what's going on in your county because that stuff goes back to the state. Change is not easy to get, unless people are involved.

We have a very Democrat-run state government. Unless people get involved all the way from the bottom to the top it's not going to change

 

[SamSpade]

I love these mental midgets in Congress and that idiot Randi Weingarten - who are railing against the closing of the DOE. It's shameful for them to claiming that Special Education is going to be done away with.

Or the morons who initially claimed student lunch programs would be done away with - uhhh - DoE never administered those. Dept of Agriculture.

Or the Pell Grants would be gone - or that Special Needs programs would be scuttled - nope, going to HHS.

Linda McMahon said something like forty some cents on each dollar went to students - the rest, absorbed in the administration costs.
So half of DoE exists - to perpetuate DoE.

It's obviously NOT to educate students.

 

[Bann]

And now we will be able to see exactly where the problems are! Our local & governments will no longer be able to blame the FEDs.

When the problems are closer to home then it's easier to take care of the problems.

 

[SamSpade]

And now we will be able to see exactly where the problems are! Our local & governments will no longer be able to blame the FEDs.

When the problems are closer to home then it's easier to take care of the problems.

There's really one problem there, to be resolved -

And that's because schools are only as good as the tax base around it, and the affluence of the community it serves.
A poor area is going to have less funded schools, with teachers who are there because they couldn't get out of being in the "poor" school.
Poor neighborhoods tend to have more troubled kids - latchkey kids - and less resources to educate kids with.

To be honest - I don't know that having a DoE had any affect on this - but it's not going to get better.

 

[OccamsRazor]

There's really one problem there, to be resolved -

And that's because schools are only as good as the tax base around it, and the affluence of the community it serves.
A poor area is going to have less funded schools, with teachers who are there because they couldn't get out of being in the "poor" school.
Poor neighborhoods tend to have more troubled kids - latchkey kids - and less resources to educate kids with.

Odd that doesn't apply around here though. Median household income of Lex Park/California is ~$112K
Not a ton of schools in those areas to crow about. Local teachers I talk to say they are constantly going out of pocket. Local GOV the problem?

 

[vraiblonde]

As it should be, but will each administration want them to do what they want?

For example now shut off funding for teaching trans stuff, next D admin only fund them if they do?

That's what elections are for. And they're a lot easier for We the People to control and get what we want than national elections. If a state votes to turn schools into indoctrination camps and have boys in girls locker rooms, that's their right. But this way Iowa doesn't have to suffer the consequences of things decided by California.

That's why Democrat love to grow the fed and take away states' rights. They hate it that they can't tell FL and TX what to do.

 

[vraiblonde]

It's obviously NOT to educate students.

And how we can tell is by looking at the results.

 

[vraiblonde]

Poor neighborhoods tend to have more troubled kids - latchkey kids - and less resources to educate kids with.

CA and NY have the most troubled uneducated kids in America and they have TONS of money. In fact, you'll note that the lowest performing students are primarily in....Democrat cities and states.

 

[vraiblonde]

Local GOV the problem?

STATE gov is the problem.

STATE.

STATE.

Say it with me:

STATE.

Education is going back to the STATES.

 

[SamSpade]

Odd that doesn't apply around here though. Median household income of Lex Park/California is ~$112K

Sounds strange but - that makes it among the richest counties in the nation.