Doctors are Anti-Vaxxers, too.

glhs837

Power with Control
IMHO the business model really needs to change ...
My wife and daughter get seasonal sinus infections, like clock work and have FOR YEARS
they should not have to go sit in an office for something so routine ...
a skype call with a smart phone should wrap it up, the basic simple sht


My insurance offers this, and it's been great for small stuff. Wife was referred to a cardiologist up at John Hopkins. Literally took both us out of work for almost four hours. Actual time with the Doc was about 10 minutes. Vitals? Wife has a cuff, and a oximeter, and a device called a Cardia, which he recommended through her cardio lady down here. Lets her do a reasonable facsimile of an EKG using the Kardia device and an app on the phone. Nothing about that visit needed to be in person. But you cant bill those diagnostics if you dont do them.
 

vraiblonde

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The first glaringly obvious problem is a growing, aging, populace. Baby boomers are getting older and about 1/3 of doctors are over 65. What happens when they retire?

It should be noted that when I say that's the problem, I don't mean a lack of doctors, it's a lack of other medical professionals. The problem isn't and undermanned system, it's an inefficient system. We need to expand the use of nurse practitioners and physicians assistants and not have them forced to be under a doctor. NPs and PAs are limited by rules, not their abilities.

In 2014, the Institute of Medicine did a study and found that we don't really have a shortage of doctors.
https://www.nap.edu/resource/18754/GME-RB.pdf

The entire health system needs an overhaul that is conducive to a free market system. When doctors have to hire a team of people just to file paperwork, that's a problem.

When people are forced to go to the ER on a Sunday because no doctor is available, that's a problem. We need more places like a minute clinic and less ER visits.

Continuing to expand Medicare and Medicaid is not going to work. Government taking control of health care surely isn't going to work (it hasn't yet).

We need FDA approval times to be faster. On average, it takes 10 years for a drug to make it to market.

We need less government intervention and more innovation.

We need more doctors spread around. When Medicare reimburses at higher rates in and near cities, that's where doctors will go. More rural areas then experience a shortage.

We have great specialists. But not enough general doctors. That's because specialists can make a TON more money.

It could be due to tuition as well. By time you finish med school, you're a quarter million dollars in debt, still have years of residency left, and are making $52,000 a year. It's no wonder there are tons of specialty doctors.

The problem is, none of this is easy and the longer we go, the more people will be questioning the system we have, unfortunately.

This whole post is spot on and so common sense that your suggestions will never be implemented. But I applaud you for being smarter and less corrupt than the people who have been pissing around with our health care system in the past and currently.

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SamSpade

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We have great specialists. But not enough general doctors. That's because specialists can make a TON more money.

Our pediatrician is the only doctor on site - but he has a staff of about six or seven and four or five are always there when he is.

I've never been to a specialist who has anywhere near that kind of level of staff.
I've been to pulmonologists, cardiologists, allergists, dermatologists. My buddy the optometrist
might have one person who isn't an optician on site.
If they're even close to that, they share with other specialists.
There's probably a reason for this, but I don't know what that is. More paperwork?
 

Chris0nllyn

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Our pediatrician is the only doctor on site - but he has a staff of about six or seven and four or five are always there when he is.

I've never been to a specialist who has anywhere near that kind of level of staff.
I've been to pulmonologists, cardiologists, allergists, dermatologists. My buddy the optometrist
might have one person who isn't an optician on site.
If they're even close to that, they share with other specialists.
There's probably a reason for this, but I don't know what that is. More paperwork?

Is the specialist their own practice or are they under the hospital system? For example, would MedStar's billing and coding team be working for the specialist without you seeing that support staff there?

Also, a specialist is likely seeing less patients on a daily basis than a general practice doc or pediatrician.
 

Chris0nllyn

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This whole post is spot on and so common sense that your suggestions will never be implemented. But I applaud you for being smarter and less corrupt than the people who have been pissing around with our health care system in the past and currently.

👏

It's very easy to speak generalities about a healthcare system that is worth trillions of dollars taking care of a country of 350 million people and there are many more people much smarter than I here to tell us all why the complicated system works.

It is evident, however, that the much of the population agrees something needs to be done, but not the hard stuff and not on their dime and not during their time in office.
 
The first glaringly obvious problem is a growing, aging, populace. Baby boomers are getting older and about 1/3 of doctors are over 65. What happens when they retire?
To be honest, I haven't seen a real doctor in years. CRNPs and PAs are the new norm.
 

Auntie Biache'

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The Cutter Incident is a well known tragedy in which at least 200,000 children and adults were given a polio vaccine that was not properly inactivated.

The shots were given in 1955, just after they were first approved, and actually caused 40,000 cases of polio, including 10 deaths and 200 cases of paralysis.



 

Auntie Biache'

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OpenSecrets, a website operated by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, tracks money in U.S. politics. It ranked the top 20 members of the House and the Senate that have received the most campaign contributions from the pharmaceutical and health products industry during the 2017-2018 election cycle.

 

vraiblonde

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OpenSecrets, a website operated by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, tracks money in U.S. politics. It ranked the top 20 members of the House and the Senate that have received the most campaign contributions from the pharmaceutical and health products industry during the 2017-2018 election cycle.


Don't you think, though, that Congress is owned by any industry with money to throw around? Pharma, Tech, Oil....

I mean, you're right to be suspicious. Pretty much nothing is as it's presented and none of these industries have the best interests of the People in mind - it's all about the benjamins. Anyone who trusts our overlords is a fool. But traditional vaccinations work as advertised and we have seen that for ourselves.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
The Cutter Incident is a well known tragedy in which at least 200,000 children and adults were given a polio vaccine that was not properly inactivated.

The shots were given in 1955, just after they were first approved, and actually caused 40,000 cases of polio, including 10 deaths and 200 cases of paralysis.





Lots of other bad crap happened back in 1956. How many cars were sold without seat belts? Borrowing past incidents to justify current actions is silly.
 

Auntie Biache'

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Lots of other bad crap happened back in 1956. How many cars were sold without seat belts? Borrowing past incidents to justify current actions is silly.

Not really, when you consider that they have changed the vaccines so often (new and improved), do not do proper testing, and increased schedule.

 

glhs837

Power with Control
Yet, like air travel it remains the safest system out there. You can show cases and complain, but the incidence of crippling and fatal illnesses has been reduced by an amazing amount.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Its a thing made by man. Imperfect by our very nature. If you want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, I"m never going to back that. If you refuse to allow any advance until it has achieved perfection and can never go wrong or fail, you never progress at all.
 

glhs837

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Yep, sorry to tell you, but being female, white, or having a college education doesn't mean you are more intelligent. Unless you can pijt to these degrees being in STEM fields, the incidence of a degree means very little in this discussion. I am constantly amazed when speaking to people from all educational backgrounds that their internet research skills are so poor. If they go deeper than the first three results, it's usually only to handpick links they think will reinforce the idea they are trying to support. We've seen that right in this thread. If educated white women want to ignore science in favor of halfbacked research and margin cases in support of an idea that threatens public, health, then yeah, they are the enemy of public health.
 

Auntie Biache'

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This video is 35 minutes long but is an exceptional resource on the aborted babies used for vaccines - done by Marcella Piper Terry.
https://youtu.be/dlqFQLLOTEU

Stanley Plotkin deposition, this was all said under oath. There are nine hours of this, this is just part of it. He is a physician who is called the “godfather of vaccines”, and talks about how there were at least 76 aborted fetuses used just when he was working on vaccines.
https://youtu.be/i5hj5zlJV4k

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PN7FQCkiBp8&feature=youtu.be
Stanley plotkin

A little more about Stanley Plotkin
https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/stanley-alan-plotkin-1932

https://embryo.asu.edu/.../stanley-alan-plotkins...

Vaccine ingredients list
https://www.cdc.gov/.../appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

https://www.soundchoice.org/aborted-fetal-products/

https://www.nvic.org/.../new-human-fetal-cell-lines-for...

https://amp.cincinnati.com/amp/3213271002

https://medscienceresearch.com/aborted-human-fetal-dna.../

https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/vaccines_and_abortion/

https://www.rtl.org/.../VaccinesAbortion_FetalTissue.html

https://www.tandfonline.com/.../10.../21645515.2015.1009811

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4526020/

https://bethevoice.typepad.com/.../did-you-know-vaccines...

https://slate.com/.../the-woman-whose-aborted-fetus...

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/.../human-cell-strains...

https://thinklovehealthy.com/.../what-you-should-know.../

https://cogforlife.org/.../new-aborted-fetal-cell-line.../

https://steemit.com/.../vaccine-discussion-series-pt-i...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC274969/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/.../the-truth-about.../

http://www.gmp-creativebiolabs.com/per-c6-cell-lines_74.htm

https://www.hek293.com/

https://www.atcc.org/products/all/CCL-186.aspx

https://www.corvelva.it/.../what-did-we-find-in-the-mmrv...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=RU2BDZL3OFY

https://www.alabasterliving.com/.../do-vaccines-violate...
 

Auntie Biache'

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Warning: Children Could Be Infected With Heavily Contaminated Human Fetal DNA In Vaccines

Dr. Theresa Deisher Founder and Lead Scientist at Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institute, whose mission is to educate the public about vaccine safety, as well as to pressure manufacturers to provide better and safer vaccines for the public.

She obtained her doctorate from Stanford University in Molecular and Cellular Physiology in 1990 and completed her post-doctoral work at the University of Washington.

Theresa Deisher career has been spent in the commercial biotechnology industry, and work from basic biological and drug discovery through clinical development.

She is writing regarding unrefuted scientific facts about fetal DNA contaminants in the Measles-Mumps-Rubella vaccine, which must be made known to lawmakers and the public.

Open letter from dr. Theresa Deisher to legislators regarding fetal cell DNA in vaccines...

https://www.modernghana.com/news/93...jY0GorygofLZldgrecv9AdwYfxH1EFzKPUtw8A9bFShII
 
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