ScorchTomato
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I really do not know if boxing does contradict (meaning it does not go by The Holy Bible's standards but is here on earth anyways) The Holy Bible (THB)?
Does Boxing Contradict The Holy Bible?
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No. But basically I was asking does THB forbid boxing?kwillia said:
Murder is against the Bible; killing, as in war or self-defense, is not. Again, as was pointed out, God sees the intent.Gwydion said:
I was under the impression that we were supposed to forgive our enemy. What right do I have to murder a person because they are not democratic? What is war in the eyes of god? We are not fighting a religous war. We are not fighting a war for the glorification of god. So by your comment, if I declare war on a person before I murder them it would be ok? Or if I murder somebody without any emotion what-so-ever, which would then be killing, god is ok with that?
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Haha, and yet you are the one asking for you to be in our prayers because you are mad towards people about the recent elections. Give me a break.
It was a simple question. You say it is ok in god's eyes to kill people but not murder them. You claim that war is ok in gods eyes. So, holy one, I question what entitles something to be ok in god's eyes? We are killing off hundreds of people because we feel like we are right.
And I haven't read the bible. I have read a good portion of it. I must have missed what god said about war, the definition. Seems like you are a fairly intelligent person. Please explain.
Haha and as far as your "Are you as stupid as this makes you sound?" comment...I find it very hilarious that somebody as "religious" as you would post that. Are you not supposed to be "helping other children of christ" along the way? Are you not supposed to be supporting those that may not completly understand your religion?
Eh, was expecting a bit more out of a person that claims to be so religious.
It was a simple question. You say it is ok in god's eyes to kill people but not murder them. You claim that war is ok in gods eyes. So, holy one, I question what entitles something to be ok in god's eyes? We are killing off hundreds of people because we feel like we are right.
And I haven't read the bible. I have read a good portion of it. I must have missed what god said about war, the definition. Seems like you are a fairly intelligent person. Please explain.
Haha and as far as your "Are you as stupid as this makes you sound?" comment...I find it very hilarious that somebody as "religious" as you would post that. Are you not supposed to be "helping other children of christ" along the way? Are you not supposed to be supporting those that may not completly understand your religion?
Eh, was expecting a bit more out of a person that claims to be so religious.
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I am not religious and never claimed to be religious. I am a sinner forgiven; nothing more. And right now, I am in a mood that is, by my own admission, far less that Christian. I am not, at this point in time, ready or willing to discuss my knowledge of the Bible with you or anyone else. Quite frankly, if the terrorists attacked the U.S. today, I think we deserve it.Gwydion said:
I am sure I will regret feeling this way. Actually, I do regret feeling this way. I just cannot get past it right now. I am angry. I don't understand God's plan; He, of course doesn't have to seek my approval, but it doesn't make it any easier.
Try me in a few days. I pray that God has properly dealt with my feelings and put everything back into perspective. I accept His will; I just don't like it right now.
Let me try to help if I can.Gwydion said:
Yes, we are supposed to forgive our enemy; even beyond that, we are supposed to love our enemies, but that instruction is at a personal level. It is for people; it is for Christians.
No one has a right to murder anyone, democratic or otherwise.
War is part of our world. It is the result of sin. No war occurs without the knowledge of God. God has even directed the Israelites to go to war at times. You will find this numerous times in the Old Testament. The world will be at war when Jesus returns and all of earth's armies will quit fighting each other and fight Jesus; they lose (Revelation). God has assisted in the defeat of one side or the other (Old Testament). Hitler even fulfilled a prophesy about the Jews being marked for death or destined for the sword (Isaiah 65) and the nation of Israel being formed in one day was prophesied in Isaiah 66 which would not have happened if not for WWII. So war is used as part of God's punishment and reward (winners) of men and for His own purpose. No one dies, in war or peace without God knowing it. All wars are not for the glory of God but all things, war included, work together for the glory of God.
An individual cannot declare war. You may say you do, but the truth is it is just you. And murder has nothing to do with feeling ("without any emotion what-so-ever"). Murder is an act described in the Bible in Numbers 35. And the proper translation of Exodus 20:13 is "You shall not murder.", not you shall not kill. The Bible does make a distinction. Murder goes to intent, lying in wait, surprise, using a weapon against a weaponless foe.
Killing in war is not murder if it is combat. Murders are certainly committed in war. The Muslim Marine (?) that tossed a grenade into the tent of his mates committed murder. The troops that raped and murdered the Iraqi women indeed murdered. Soldiers that shot and killed people, man, woman, or child, that was shooting or attacking them are not murderers.
These concepts are all in the Bible for the reading.