Donald junior's evolving story

[vraiblonde]

*gasp* I LOVE Tetris...

Russian collusion! Russian collusion!!!

Anyway, they finally found some guy to say that this lawyer person really is a Russian agent. He was on Martha MacCallum tonight saying that Putin is out to get him because he objected to Putin killing his mentor, and this woman has had many (apparently unsuccessful) missions. He says she was trying to get to Trump, had no luck, so she went through Junior (and still had no luck).

So who knows. But even if she really is a Russian spy, that doesn't mean that Junior or Daddy were Russian spies too, and it certainly doesn't mean that Vlad hacked our election and made Trump win.

 

[vraiblonde]

If I may ...

Where is tommyjo? She/He/It hasn't been here since June 1st. Do you think she ......... died? I kinda, miss .... kinda.

S/he got a day off for acting like a nozzle and I'm guessing s/he stomped off to pout.

 

[hotbikermama40]

Russian collusion! Russian collusion!!!

Anyway, they finally found some guy to say that this lawyer person really is a Russian agent. He was on Martha MacCallum tonight saying that Putin is out to get him because he objected to Putin killing his mentor, and this woman has had many (apparently unsuccessful) missions. He says she was trying to get to Trump, had no luck, so she went through Junior (and still had no luck).

So who knows. But even if she really is a Russian spy, that doesn't mean that Junior or Daddy were Russian spies too, and it certainly doesn't mean that Vlad hacked our election and made Trump win.

I would say that if she really is a Russian spy......she sucks at it. And I would also say that our votes made Trump win.

 

[Hijinx]

There is no evolving story because there is no story. Just fake news.

 

[PsyOps]

What crimes was bill Clinton convicted of?

Remember, all of that investigation came down to did he lie about being alone with Monica.

And he did lie about it. He was impeached. The senate just didn't have the balls to convict because of the political backlash to their own seats. Convicting a sitting president does have the potential for creating a constitutional crisis that most politicians aren't willing to involve themselves in. But it is a FACT that Clinton lied under oath. THAT is a crime. Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't commit the crime. In fact, to avoid being prosecuted in civil contempt court, he admitted to perjury to avoid prosecution; and was subsequently disbarred by the Arkansas Bar Assoc and the U.S. Supreme Court, and fined $90,000. So, what was your question again about what crimes Clinton was convicted?

Now that we have established what a crime looks like... what crimes has Trump or any of his admin committed? If there are crimes committed in this year-long investigation, why have no charges been brought forth? Do you have answers for these questions?

 

[Midnightrider]

And he did lie about it. He was impeached. The senate just didn't have the balls to convict because of the political backlash to their own seats. Convicting a sitting president does have the potential for creating a constitutional crisis that most politicians aren't willing to involve themselves in. But it is a FACT that Clinton lied under oath. THAT is a crime. Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he didn't commit the crime. In fact, to avoid being prosecuted in Arkansas, he admitted to perjury to avoid prosecution; and was subsequently disbarred.

Now that we have established what a crime looks like... what crimes has Trump or any of his admin committed? If there are crimes committed in this year-long investigation, why have no charges been brought forth? Do you have answers for these questions?

So that's a big NO HE WASNT CONVICTED OF ANYTHING.
Several of trumps people have lied about their dealings with the Russians, some in sworn statements. If that's the measure of a crime for you, then it's been met.
And again, I have answered your questions plenty of times. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it's not the correct one. These investigations take time. Watergate and Billy's impeachement investigation both took longer than this. Murller was only recently appointed, give him some time

 

[Gilligan]

So that's a big NO HE WASNT CONVICTED OF ANYTHING.
Several of trumps people have lied about their dealings with the Russians, some in sworn statements. If that's the measure of a crime for you, then it's been met.
And again, I have answered your questions plenty of times. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it's not the correct one. These investigations take time. Watergate and Billy's impeachement investigation both took longer than this. Murller was only recently appointed, give him some time

How much jail time do you think Don jr will get?

 

[PsyOps]

So that's a big NO HE WASNT CONVICTED OF ANYTHING.
Several of trumps people have lied about their dealings with the Russians, some in sworn statements. If that's the measure of a crime for you, then it's been met.
And again, I have answered your questions plenty of times. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it's not the correct one. These investigations take time. Watergate and Billy's impeachement investigation both took longer than this. Murller was only recently appointed, give him some time

What Clinton did was the equivalence of being convicted - he settled out of court. :shrug:

And Trump and his cohorts won't be convicted of anything either. If our legal and congressional systems of prosecution couldn't justify convicting Clinton - who blatantly violated the law, and admitted to it - they won't justify any convictions in the Trump case.

So, what are we left with........................ my same question. We know Clinton violated the law, and was brought up on charges for those violations. What laws has any of the Trump team violated? You believe there were laws violated - what are they? You still refuse to answer that very simple question. Saying there is still an investigation is not an answer; it's a diversion to avoid answering. YOU believe laws were violated. What laws?

 

[GURPS]

We know Clinton violated the law, and was brought up on charges for those violations.

Clinton was accused / sued by multiple women for rape, sexual assault, harassment ....
Trump and friends have been accused by anonymous sources talking to reporters

 

[Midnightrider]

What Clinton did was the equivalence of being convicted - he settled out of court. :shrug:

And Trump and his cohorts won't be convicted of anything either. If our legal and congressional systems of prosecution couldn't justify convicting Clinton - who blatantly violated the law, and admitted to it - they won't justify any convictions in the Trump case.

So, what are we left with........................ my same question. We know Clinton violated the law, and was brought up on charges for those violations. What laws has any of the Trump team violated? You believe there were laws violated - what are they? You still refuse to answer that very simple question. Saying there is still an investigation is not an answer; it's a diversion to avoid answering. YOU believe laws were violated. What laws?

Settling out of court is not the same as a conviction.


Again, I have answered the question. Several of trumps admin have lied or submitted false sworn statements. If that is the measure, there is your crime. However, Mueller is investigating, it takes time.
Remember when your question was "they have been investigating for a year, where is the evidence of collusion?" And I told you these things take time? We'll be patient

 

[Midnightrider]

Clinton was accused / sued by multiple women for rape, sexual assault, harassment ....
Trump and friends have been accused by anonymous sources talking to reporters

If you want to compare apples to apples, trump has been sued by multiple women for that stuff too

 

[PsyOps]

Clinton was accused / sued by multiple women for rape, sexual assault, harassment ....
Trump and friends have been accused by anonymous sources talking to reporters

Accused of what? Talking to some Russians? I know this "collusion" narrative is at the center of their accusations, but I have yet to see any evidence of such collusion (a conspiracy to purposely cheat and deceive) to have the Russians manipulate the election.

 

[PsyOps]

Settling out of court is not the same as a conviction.

Dude, Clinton was punished for his crimes. You can spin this away from the truth as much as you want; but it doesn't change the fact that Bill Clinton committed crimes, he has admitted to committing crimes, and he was punished for committing those crimes. And that is my point - not that he was actually convicted in a court of law, but that he committed crimes. Someone who commits crimes is a criminal regardless of convictions.

You used Bill Clinton as a comparison... your comparison failed. Where are the crimes committed by Trump and anyone in his admin or associates? Just name one crime - just one.

 

[Midnightrider]

Dude, Clinton was punished for his crimes. You can spin this away from the truth as much as you want; but it doesn't change the fact that Bill Clinton committed crimes, he has admitted to committing crimes, and he was punished for committing those crimes. And that is my point - not that he was actually convicted in a court of law, but that he committed crimes. Someone who commits crimes is a criminal regardless of convictions.

You used Bill Clinton as a comparison... your comparison failed. Where are the crimes committed by Trump and anyone in his admin or associates? Just name one crime - just one.

I just did. Again,you not liking the answer doesn't mean I didn't give one.
I don't like slick willie or the fact that they couldn't convict him. However, in our system being charged isn't the same as being convicted.


And one more time, how long was it from the time ken star was appointed until the impeachment?

 

[PsyOps]

I just did. Again,you not liking the answer doesn't mean I didn't give one.
I don't like slick willie or the fact that they couldn't convict him. However, in our system being charged isn't the same as being convicted.


And one more time, how long was it from the time ken star was appointed until the impeachment?

I'm still waiting to see what crimes have been committed here? I'm still waiting to see what crimes anyone has even been accused of?

Your answer to that is a diversion, not an answer.

 

[GURPS]

However, in our system being charged isn't the same as being convicted.

well at least charges were filed, all we have with Trump after a yr or Russian / Trump collusion investigations ...... is accusations in the papers

 

[Hijinx]

well at least charges were filed, all we have with Trump after a yr or Russian / Trump collusion investigations ...... is accusations in the papers

Frivolous accusations made by losers.

 

[Gilligan]

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I don't like slick willie or the fact that they couldn't convict him. However, in our system being charged isn't the same as being convicted.

So you support and defend Hillary to the point of absurdity....but didn't like her husband. LMAO..yeah...we believe you.

 

[Wishbone]

Christ. I thought this #### would fizzle faster than the rest. Now we're going 26 pages.

 

[PsyOps]

Christ. I thought this #### would fizzle faster than the rest. Now we're going 26 pages.

And you just added to it.