Donald junior's evolving story

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Pixelated
So why isn't Hillary in jail f there was so much evidence against her? Oh right she is an all powerful witch who controls all of Washington but that power stops right at being elected President. We have heard that stupid argument a million times and no matter what you say about Hillary to deflect the fact remains JR tried to collude but was to dumb to accomplish it and instead most likely was compromised by the Russian's during his meeting which he failed to disclose. Maybe, maybe if this was the only Russia link your undying defense of him could be forgiven as a mere misunderstanding but when the Trump's repeatedly lie or omit things it becomes harder and harder to believe that these connections are just oversights by political neophytes and not evidence of a deeper link.
Someone that commits crimes, goes through the legal process and comes out clean... I'll have to defer to God on that one; because those in government, involved in that whole mess will NEVER tell us the truth. I can only tell you, as I have done several time, the world I work in, any of us would be serving a hefty sentence in prison.

If you don't think Hillary Clinton is a very powerful person, surrounded by very powerful people. Couple that power with corruption and anything is possible.

You make it clear that you are nothing more than a partisan, guiding by your political hatred rather than the truth and the facts. And, I'm not really inclined to waste much time trying to convince you how guilty Clinton is in handling classified, and this from 30 years of experience working in that world. You're not interested in the truth; you're interested in attacking those you disagree with, no matter how dishonestly you accomplish that.

Now, I will spend considerable time calling you out on that - your partisan dishonesty.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
That's a great question. I'm guessing "too big to jail".
We've come to expect folks (especially career politicians) in our government to be corrupt. The Comey decision on Clinton was so deeply corrupt that it has virtually destroyed any last hope I had in a transparent and honest government - and that would include the Trump team.

But what's even worse, is how so many Americans have become so partisan, vengeful, and hateful that, even in the face of abject corruption, they dismiss because their partisan brains demand it.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
Someone that commits crimes, goes through the legal process and comes out clean... I'll have to defer to God on that one; because those in government, involved in that whole mess will NEVER tell us the truth. I can only tell you, as I have done several time, the world I work in, any of us would be serving a hefty sentence in prison.

If you don't think Hillary Clinton is a very powerful person, surrounded by very powerful people. Couple that power with corruption and anything is possible.

You make it clear that you are nothing more than a partisan, guiding by your political hatred rather than the truth and the facts. And, I'm not really inclined to waste much time trying to convince you how guilty Clinton is in handling classified, and this from 30 years of experience working in that world. You're not interested in the truth; you're interested in attacking those you disagree with, no matter how dishonestly you accomplish that.

Now, I will spend considerable time calling you out on that - your partisan dishonesty.

And all of the crap you just spewed wasn't partisan crap?

Show me where she did anything illegal and specifically explain why she didn't receive jail time or fines or even a harsh tongue lashing.

I don't hate anyone and I would like to see this country run, efficiently and in a positive direction. It is clear that Trump is incompetent and possibly has his best business interests at heart much more than the best interests of this country.

Disagreeing with policy and the way he enacts it not to mention his repeated criticism of Obama only to turn around and do the exact same things and get a pass from his supporters is not hatred. It is called being consistent and having common sense. If you find that so offense you should probably move to a different country where dictatorship with criticism is more widely accepted.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
At least for me its way harder to believe the Obama administration ensnared the Trumps than that Trump's team was looking for whatever edge they could get.
(shrug) Occam's Razor. The full comparison would be that either the Trumps DID successfully collude with the Russian government and thus far - this is the ONLY shred of anything to corroborate it however weak it might be, even though they got nothing --

Or that Obama DID in fact seek to get permission from the FISA court - failed to get that even though it's usually approved - and subsequently got someone to set them up specifically for the purpose of GETTING the FISA warrant. As the article observed, Hillary was already declaring Trump was conspiring with Russians during her debate.

Veselnitskaya is looking pretty sketchy too, as her social media account shows someone who is anti-Putin, anti-Trump and who is likely connected to Fusion GPS, the firm that did the whole Piss Gate thing last year. Is it so hard to believe she might have met with Don Jr - the son of someone she disliked - for the purpose of making Trump look bad?
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
We've come to expect folks (especially career politicians) in our government to be corrupt. The Comey decision on Clinton was so deeply corrupt that it has virtually destroyed any last hope I had in a transparent and honest government - and that would include the Trump team.
And that right there is at LEAST one example of Hillary doing something she SHOULD have gone to jail for - but escaped justice because for some reason, Comey says, yeah she's guilty but so what?

Frankly, I'd like to see them go back and visit Haiti so they can get tarred and feathered for what they did there.

We have decades of these guys getting away with - well, possibly even murder but they are without a doubt the most corrupt American politicians in my lifetime.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
(shrug) Occam's Razor. The full comparison would be that either the Trumps DID successfully collude with the Russian government and thus far - this is the ONLY shred of anything to corroborate it however weak it might be, even though they got nothing --

Or that Obama DID in fact seek to get permission from the FISA court - failed to get that even though it's usually approved - and subsequently got someone to set them up specifically for the purpose of GETTING the FISA warrant. As the article observed, Hillary was already declaring Trump was conspiring with Russians during her debate.

Veselnitskaya is looking pretty sketchy too, as her social media account shows someone who is anti-Putin, anti-Trump and who is likely connected to Fusion GPS, the firm that did the whole Piss Gate thing last year. Is it so hard to believe she might have met with Don Jr - the son of someone she disliked - for the purpose of making Trump look bad?
thats not occams razor, thats occams tinfoil turban :killingme

the simplest explanation is not a severly convoluted conspiracy
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
We've come to expect folks (especially career politicians) in our government to be corrupt. The Comey decision on Clinton was so deeply corrupt that it has virtually destroyed any last hope I had in a transparent and honest government - and that would include the Trump team.

But what's even worse, is how so many Americans have become so partisan, vengeful, and hateful that, even in the face of abject corruption, they dismiss because their partisan brains demand it.

Are you kidding me with this crap? Who was one of the loudest Birthers? Trump. Who was one of the most vile candidates in history with the way he talked about women, immigrants, the handicapped and journalists?

Which political party accused Obama of faking his biith certificate, Michelle of being a tranny moocher and now you want to cry about how unfair Trump is being treated when it is clearly based on his actions for the most part.

I have never once made fun of his looks, I have never called Melania a tranny or any other names, I have not made fun of his children. ( i did twice call Junior the chinless one so sue me)

Trump is being taken to task in the press and by the people because he is an incompetent liar and has shown himself to be a hypocrite and liar dozens of times.

When we can longer criticize the president for his actions we are no longer living in America where we have free speech.

You may try to belittle it as partisan nonsense but there are many real concerns about the ability of this president to lead that go far beyond personal attacks,
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
How many people's minds on has Sappy changed on here since activating current MPD...show of hands?
 

Wishbone

New Member
How many people's minds on has Sappy changed on here since activating current MPD...show of hands?
Changed mine.


When I first read his posts I though he was just young, ignorant and inexperienced in life.


After reading many, many, many more posts.... He changed my mind and convinced me he's an asshat.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
Nope, not kidding with this crap.
Well than you are a snowflake and need to find a safe space because you guys dished it out for 6 months with much worse vitriol and now you want to cry about the mistreatment.

I should be surprised by the hypocrisy and the lack of critical thinking.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
And all of the crap you just spewed wasn't partisan crap?
You're damn right I'm a partisan against crimes committed in this country. It kind of sucks you're only interested in what "might be" or "what ifs" and making those crimes, when it applies to people you disagree with. But, it is what most of us have come to expect from you.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
You're damn right I'm a partisan against crimes committed in this country. It kind of sucks you're only interested in what "might be" or "what ifs" and making those crimes, when it applies to people you disagree with. But, it is what most of us have come to expect from you.
Isn't that how you find out if crimes were committed by investigating them? I have repeatedly said there are many suspicious things that require further investigation.

Just as you did with Hillary. You didn't dismiss things so easily with her but now that the shoe is on the other foot you call it a witch hunt and demand that people stop looking into it.

Hillary was investigated and she was not convicted. I am not a lawyer or a policeman. There is nothing further I can do to help with your sense of injustice there. Why are you so angry at me when all I have said is Trump needs to be investigated in he same way she was?
 

Wishbone

New Member
Just as you did with Hillary. You didn't dismiss things so easily with her but now that the shoe is on the other foot you call it a witch hunt and demand that people stop looking into it.
So, if DJTJ deletes everything and bleachbits his computer he's good right?

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