don't mess with our chocolate

forestal

I'm the Boss of Me
Well, if you like chocolate the way it is, you better pay attention. Some of the big chocolate manufacturers want to subsitute vegetable oil for cocoa butter and label it chocolate. Sign the petition before April 25th, if you like your chocolate the way it's supposed be made: with cocoa butter.

The federal Food and Drug Administration is proposing to redefine the very essence of chocolate and to allow big manufacturers such as Hershey to sell a bar devoid of a key ingredient — cocoa butter. The butter's natural texture could be replaced with inferior alternatives, such as vegetable fats. And consumers would never know. Chocolatier Gary Guittard said it best: "No one can afford to sit back and eat bonbons while America's great passion for chocolate is threatened."

For every defender of traditional chocolate, there are powerful proponents who want to replace cocoa butter with vegetable oil: the Chocolate Manufacturers Association, the Grocery Manufacturers Association and the Snack Food Association. These industry titans have filed a "citizens petition" to the FDA, as the Los Angeles Times recently reported, as if there were some groundswell in society to water down chocolate.

At the moment, chocolate requires two basic ingredients — cocoa and cocoa butter. Cocoa provides much of the flavor; cocoa butter, the texture. So if, say, Hershey wanted to make a chocolate bar without cocoa butter, it can under today's rules. The product has to be labeled "chocolate flavored" (for it still has the cocoa in it) rather than "chocolate." That gives the consumer a signal that something less than chocolate lies beneath the wrapping. To help defend chocolate, visit www.dontmesswithourchocolate.com and learn how to submit feedback to the FDA.
 

Sharon

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If some company wants to reformulate their chocolate who cares? From what I've read of your link they are NOT requiring companies to change their formula. We already have good chocolate and crappy chocolate labeled as "chocolate". Dark chocolate has different percentages of cocoa in it. I don't see the big deal. Read the label, eat the chocolate. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Forestal, that sounds to me like an urban legend. Cocoa butter is not "the very essence of chocolate." It's a byproduct of the processes of making chocolate and cocoa, as anyone can learn from the Hershey's Chocolate World ride. A regular chocolate bar and a "white chocolate" bar both have cocoa butter, but the former also has real chocolate. That's why I've always found "white chocolate" to be unsatisfying. Chocolate cakes have cocoa and vegetable oil but no cocoa butter.
 
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Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
Tonio said:
Forestal, that sounds to me like an urban legend.

Worse than a urban legend, it's an idiot's hallucination. But what else would you expect from a...
 

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forestal

I'm the Boss of Me
You didn't pay attention son. Chocolate is must also be made with cocoa. White chocolate has no cocoa.

This is not an urban legend, if you follow the link you'll be pointed to the FDA website where you, as a consumer, can make it known that you don't want to be sold something labeled 'chocolate' if it doesn't have both cocoa and cocoa butter.


Tonio said:
Forestal, that sounds to me like an urban legend. Cocoa butter is not "the very essence of chocolate." It's a byproduct of the processes of making chocolate and cocoa, as anyone can learn from the Hershey's Chocolate World ride. A regular chocolate bar and a "white chocolate" bar both have cocoa butter, but the former also has real chocolate. That's why I've always found "white chocolate" to be unsatisfying. Chocolate cakes have cocoa and vegetable oil but no cocoa butter.
 

forestal

I'm the Boss of Me
As usual, you're the idiot.,.but just like I don't expect a crazy person to know they're crazy, I don't expect an idiot to know they are an idiot.

It may be cocoa powder that gives chocolate its taste, but it is the cocoa butter that gives it that inimitable texture. It is one of the rare, naturally occurring vegetable fats that is solid at room temperature and melts as it hits body temperature — that is to say, it melts in your mouth. Cocoa butter also protects the antioxidant properties of the cocoa solids and gives well-made chocolate its excellent shelf life.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-may19apr19,0,2342362.story

http://www.examiner.com/a-676026~It_looks_like_chocolate___but_is_it_.html

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/4/20/11104/3786



Lenny said:
Worse than a urban legend, it's an idiot's hallucination. But what else would you expect from a...
 
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Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
forestal said:
As usual, you're the idiot.,.but just like I don't expect a crazy person to know they're crazy, I don't expect an idiot to know they are an idiot.

You really are out of touch with reality, aren't you. No, wait! You've already told us you wouldn't know that, didn't you?
 

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hvp05

Methodically disorganized
forestal said:
I don't expect an idiot to know they are an idiot.
You still believe you're normal. :shrug:

And now, becuase of you, I have to watch Lenny repeatedly post spooky clown pictures...
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
trilogy said:
please please give m e good camra
I won't give you a good camera, but I can recommend one. I'd go with the 5D, or still excellent quality for less money would be the 30D. :yay:
 
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