Epa seeks to prohibit conversion of vehicles into racecars

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
EPA SEEKS TO PROHIBIT CONVERSION OF VEHICLES INTO RACECARS


Washington, DC (February 8, 2016) – The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed a regulation to prohibit conversion of vehicles originally designed for on-road use into racecars. The regulation would also make the sale of certain products for use on such vehicles illegal. The proposed regulation was contained within a non-related proposed regulation entitled “Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles—Phase 2.”

The regulation would impact all vehicle types, including the sports cars, sedans and hatch-backs commonly converted strictly for use at the track. While the Clean Air Act prohibits certain modifications to motor vehicles, it is clear that vehicles built or modified for racing, and not used on the streets, are not the “motor vehicles” that Congress intended to regulate.

“This proposed regulation represents overreaching by the agency, runs contrary to the law and defies decades of racing activity where EPA has acknowledged and allowed conversion of vehicles,” said SEMA President and CEO Chris Kersting. “Congress did not intend the original Clean Air Act to extend to vehicles modified for racing and has re-enforced that intent on more than one occasion.”

SEMA submitted comments in opposition to the regulation and met with the EPA to confirm the agency’s intentions. The EPA indicated that the regulation would prohibit conversion of vehicles into racecars and make the sale of certain emissions-related parts for use on converted vehicles illegal. Working with other affected organizations, including those representing legions of professional and hobbyist racers and fans, SEMA will continue to oppose the regulation through the administrative process and will seek congressional support and judicial intervention as necessary.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Hmmm, so, who cares enough about the statistically insignificant number of vehicles this applies to to actually do to this effort? Some nebbish in the EPA who has a neighbor with a track prepped Fox body who doesn't like the sound of it?
 

Humbled

Member
Hmmm, so, who cares enough about the statistically insignificant number of vehicles this applies to to actually do to this effort? Some nebbish in the EPA who has a neighbor with a track prepped Fox body who doesn't like the sound of it?

Hmmm, so, what am I missing here? The way I read it. it applies to virtually all vehicles.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
“This proposed regulation represents overreaching by the agency, runs contrary to the law and defies decades of racing activity where EPA has acknowledged and allowed conversion of vehicles,”

The EPA has been over reaching since it's inception.

Again I point to regulations as opposed to Laws.

It takes a Congress and State Legislatures to pass a law.
It takes one dickhead behind a desk at EPA or the Health Department or whatever to place a regulation in force.

The United States has far too many dickheads ---and regulations.
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

Well-Known Member
EPA SEEKS TO PROHIBIT CONVERSION OF VEHICLES INTO RACECARS


Washington, DC (February 8, 2016) – The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed a regulation to prohibit conversion of vehicles originally designed for on-road use into racecars. The regulation would also make the sale of certain products for use on such vehicles illegal. The proposed regulation was contained within a non-related proposed regulation entitled “Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Medium- and Heavy-Duty Engines and Vehicles—Phase 2.”

The regulation would impact all vehicle types, including the sports cars, sedans and hatch-backs commonly converted strictly for use at the track. While the Clean Air Act prohibits certain modifications to motor vehicles, it is clear that vehicles built or modified for racing, and not used on the streets, are not the “motor vehicles” that Congress intended to regulate.

“This proposed regulation represents overreaching by the agency, runs contrary to the law and defies decades of racing activity where EPA has acknowledged and allowed conversion of vehicles,” said SEMA President and CEO Chris Kersting. “Congress did not intend the original Clean Air Act to extend to vehicles modified for racing and has re-enforced that intent on more than one occasion.”

SEMA submitted comments in opposition to the regulation and met with the EPA to confirm the agency’s intentions. The EPA indicated that the regulation would prohibit conversion of vehicles into racecars and make the sale of certain emissions-related parts for use on converted vehicles illegal. Working with other affected organizations, including those representing legions of professional and hobbyist racers and fans, SEMA will continue to oppose the regulation through the administrative process and will seek congressional support and judicial intervention as necessary.

NASCAR nor NHRA are specifically mentioned, of course. I wonder how those two racing formats will be affected.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
NASCAR nor NHRA are specifically mentioned, of course. I wonder how those two racing formats will be affected.

It says Modification to vehicles and NASCAR builds their cars from scratch.
Nothing stock on any of them.

Probably wouldn't effect them much, but it would sure put a lot of aftermarket parts dealers and mechanics who do work on modified cars out of work.
Probably 100,000 people or more.
Plus race facilities such as Budds Creek .
It could effect a helluva lot of people.

P.S. it could also create a market for high performance as a stock option as owners demanded more power from manufacturers.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Exactly, you can find radical power across the board these days, from monster HellCats to the AWD +300hp new Focus RS (now with baked in Drift Mode, fergodsakes). MazdaSpeed, BMW Ms, Mercedes AMGs, Lexus, you name it, it can be had with silly power, in fact, I think FCA recently confirmed the freaking HellCat Grand Cherokee, because Murica EFF YOU!!!!!!!!!
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
It says Modification to vehicles and NASCAR builds their cars from scratch.
Nothing stock on any of them.

Probably wouldn't effect them much, but it would sure put a lot of aftermarket parts dealers and mechanics who do work on modified cars out of work.
Probably 100,000 people or more.
Plus race facilities such as Budds Creek .
It could effect a helluva lot of people.

P.S. it could also create a market for high performance as a stock option as owners demanded more power from manufacturers.
Kind of ironic that the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing doesn't use anything stock.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Kind of ironic that the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing doesn't use anything stock.

They used to, but no longer.They should change the name to Formula 2 racing.
It certainly isn't Stock Car racing any longer.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
http://jalopnik.com/the-epas-crackdown-on-race-cars-explained-1758111546

So, seems there was some confusion, but in the end, yes, the EPA wants to make it illegal for you to tamper in any way with any emissions control device ever placed on any car sold for onroad use for the purposes of making it a track only car. So, potentially this gets pretty crazy. Every Fox body drag car, and tons of SCCA prepped cars. Whats nuts is that while the numbers of cars this apples to compared to cars still on the road is small, but huge to the racing community. This could cripple large chunks of the aftermarket and also the racing industry.
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
Someone who makes purpose built race cars that wants a larger customer base is behind this.

Steve Gass, the owner of Saw Stop has been petitioning the Consumer Products Safety division to require his technology for all table saws. http://www.sawstop.com/
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
NASCAR nor NHRA are specifically mentioned, of course. I wonder how those two racing formats will be affected.

It says Modification to vehicles and NASCAR builds their cars from scratch.
Nothing stock on any of them.

Probably wouldn't effect them much, but it would sure put a lot of aftermarket parts dealers and mechanics who do work on modified cars out of work.
Probably 100,000 people or more.
Plus race facilities such as Budds Creek .
It could effect a helluva lot of people.

P.S. it could also create a market for high performance as a stock option as owners demanded more power from manufacturers.

http://jalopnik.com/the-epas-crackdown-on-race-cars-explained-1758111546

So, seems there was some confusion, but in the end, yes, the EPA wants to make it illegal for you to tamper in any way with any emissions control device ever placed on any car sold for onroad use for the purposes of making it a track only car. So, potentially this gets pretty crazy. Every Fox body drag car, and tons of SCCA prepped cars. Whats nuts is that while the numbers of cars this apples to compared to cars still on the road is small, but huge to the racing community. This could cripple large chunks of the aftermarket and also the racing industry.

The backbone of the sport, yes even NASCAR racing, is still in stock car racing. Four cylinder, Street Stock and, in drag racing, bracket racing. They're all modified street cars. Same with road racing.

The EPA says this won't affect racing because of existing regulations, but it's hard to believe them. Especially since, with them, it's always "what's next?" If this passes, what's "Phase 3"?

Fortunately, I have a better chance of getting a Taylor Swift breakup song written about me than this has of becoming law.
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
Fortunately, I have a better chance of getting a Taylor Swift breakup song written about me than this has of becoming law.

Dude this Taylor Swift obsession is bordering on creepy, and your dick skin is probably raw from it, give it a rest.
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
well all the EPA has to do is apply NEW Regs ... like CO2

Congress can block EPA regulations.

I just don't see this happening. There's a lot of backlash over it. The racing community is pissed. The EPA will dump this proposal.
 
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