Ethanol sucks..news at 11

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Well..DUH!

The devastating report — based on, yes, actual "science" — shows that the forced addition of ethanol to the nation's gasoline is making our air dirtier.

The irony, of course, is that ethanol's entire rationale is that it would make our air cleaner.

Why do we keep doing this? The farm-based ethanol lobby not only wants current standards of up to 10% of our fuel made up of ethanol (the "E10" standard), but would like to see it rise to 15% (E15). And, unfortunately, President Trump seems open to the idea.

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/ethanol-environment-damage/
 

Kyle

Imagine No Democrats
PREMO Member
It destroys fuel economy.


Every time I find a place that doesn't mix fuel, aka no ethanol, my mileage goes up.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
It destroys fuel economy.


Every time I find a place that doesn't mix fuel, aka no ethanol, my mileage goes up.
It destroys older vehicle, marine and small engines and their fuel systems. It's been a disaster for the marine industry and pretty much the same for the small-engine industry. The latter has resorted to selling "approved" fuel in 1-gallon cans at Lowes and the like....ridiculous...
 

glhs837

Power with Control
It destroys older vehicle, marine and small engines and their fuel systems. It's been a disaster for the marine industry and pretty much the same for the small-engine industry. The latter has resorted to selling "approved" fuel in 1-gallon cans at Lowes and the like....ridiculous...
Yep, been striggling to get the one year old pressure washer going, even witn marina fuel and stabil. Emptied it and put that canned stuff in, fired right up first pull. Crazy expensive, but if it ####ing works.
 

Grumpy

Well-Known Member
Yep. And yet another untallied cost inflicted on us by the existence of ethanol in motor fuels.
I hear that..leaf blower, chainsaw, weekeater, etc all get canned stuff. Had to replace a carburetor on my generator because of ethanol..so far(3 yrs) generator works fine with regular gas as long as I cut the gas off and let the engine starve out.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
I hear that..leaf blower, chainsaw, weekeater, etc all get canned stuff. Had to replace a carburetor on my generator because of ethanol..so far(3 yrs) generator works fine with regular gas as long as I cut the gas off and let the engine starve out.
I always do that on anything that has a shutoff valve. Gave up on the gas chainsaw and got an electric.
And thats why I picked up a propane generator.


GW, I've been looking at those, whaddya got, and how well does it fit your needs? I'm no Paul Bunyan, but I do live in the woods and occasionally need to cut up some decently sized stuff.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
gas from the Airport ?


https://www.pure-gas.org/extensions/map.jsp?statecode=MD



https://www.pure-gas.org/station?station_id=41772

Shell - SHELL
27350 3 Notch Rd, Mechanicsville MD
301-884-5677
Ethanol-free octane ratings: 87
GPS coordinates: N 38.41850 W 76.69450 (entered by PCW)
Updated by Mike, May 31, 2018 12:07 CDT May 31 2018 pump has been broken for over a week now, no estimate on when it will be back in service.
Updated by finally!, December 02, 2017 10:27 CST Confirmed....Burchoil brand non-ethanol 87 octane gasoline at this shell!
Updated by GWH, November 06, 2017 21:40 CST Pump number 6. Well marked as non-ethanol.
Updated by bob, September 18, 2017 16:51 CDT abbrev addr

https://www.pure-gas.org/station?station_id=40373

Ridgell Service - UNBRANDED
26460 3 Notch Rd, Mechanicsville MD
301-373-2070
Ethanol-free octane ratings: 90
GPS coordinates: N 38.39509 W 76.65081 (located from address)
Updated by Mike, May 31, 2018 12:03 CDT Full service, 90 octane is up to $3.879 a gallon now.
Updated by Sandy, March 20, 2018 6:58 CDT This is a full service gas station opened M-F 5 am to 8 pm Sat 7 am to 5 pm
Updated by Steve J, January 13, 2018 15:48 CST Open for gas on Saturday, guy came out and filled 3 cans of 90 octain with no ethanol. Says they get the gas from VA. 3.25 per gallon very reasonable. Stores are charging 20 bucks for a quart.


https://www.pure-gas.org/station?station_id=18642

Prince Frederick Shell - SHELL
400 Solomon Isl Rd, Prince Frederick MD
410-535-5056
Ethanol-free octane ratings: 110
GPS coordinates: N 38.54687 W 76.59046 (located from address)
Updated by JMM, July 16, 2018 4:32 CDT Cam II @ $9.?? gal. On July 14th
 
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black dog

Free America
PREMO Member
There's lots of places to get ethanol free fuel.. I don't understand why folks that have problems with it, keep putting in service with engines that aren't designed for it's use. There are more than a few high test fuels easily available that are ethanol free.
 
And thats why I picked up a propane generator.


GW, I've been looking at those, whaddya got, and how well does it fit your needs? I'm no Paul Bunyan, but I do live in the woods and occasionally need to cut up some decently sized stuff.
I picked up a cheapo 16" on sale from Harbor Freight, figured if it didn't work I hadn't lost much. On the down side, the trigger is in a bad place and stiff. Hard to keep it held down when you start contorting. On the plus, it cuts as well as a gas saw. Came with a standard Oregon bar and chain. For the number of times I need it, t does the job very well. In fact, I just used it last week to drop a 30' 14" diameter dead tree and cut it up. Piece o cake.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
There's lots of places to get ethanol free fuel.. I don't understand why folks that have problems with it, keep putting in service with engines that aren't designed for it's use. There are more than a few high test fuels easily available that are ethanol free.
Had been getting it at the local marinas, but it seems to not keep them running as well.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
There's lots of places to get ethanol free fuel.. I don't understand why folks that have problems with it, keep putting in service with engines that aren't designed for it's use. There are more than a few high test fuels easily available that are ethanol free.
Not here. We've got the marinas and that is all.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
gas from the Airport ?


https://www.pure-gas.org/extensions/map.jsp?statecode=MD



https://www.pure-gas.org/station?station_id=41772

Shell - SHELL
27350 3 Notch Rd, Mechanicsville MD
301-884-5677
Ethanol-free octane ratings: 87
GPS coordinates: N 38.41850 W 76.69450 (entered by PCW)
Updated by Mike, May 31, 2018 12:07 CDT May 31 2018 pump has been broken for over a week now, no estimate on when it will be back in service.
Updated by finally!, December 02, 2017 10:27 CST Confirmed....Burchoil brand non-ethanol 87 octane gasoline at this shell!
Updated by GWH, November 06, 2017 21:40 CST Pump number 6. Well marked as non-ethanol.
Updated by bob, September 18, 2017 16:51 CDT abbrev addr

https://www.pure-gas.org/station?station_id=40373

Ridgell Service - UNBRANDED
26460 3 Notch Rd, Mechanicsville MD
301-373-2070
Ethanol-free octane ratings: 90
GPS coordinates: N 38.39509 W 76.65081 (located from address)
Updated by Mike, May 31, 2018 12:03 CDT Full service, 90 octane is up to $3.879 a gallon now.
Updated by Sandy, March 20, 2018 6:58 CDT This is a full service gas station opened M-F 5 am to 8 pm Sat 7 am to 5 pm
Updated by Steve J, January 13, 2018 15:48 CST Open for gas on Saturday, guy came out and filled 3 cans of 90 octain with no ethanol. Says they get the gas from VA. 3.25 per gallon very reasonable. Stores are charging 20 bucks for a quart.


https://www.pure-gas.org/station?station_id=18642

Prince Frederick Shell - SHELL
400 Solomon Isl Rd, Prince Frederick MD
410-535-5056
Ethanol-free octane ratings: 110
GPS coordinates: N 38.54687 W 76.59046 (located from address)
Updated by JMM, July 16, 2018 4:32 CDT Cam II @ $9.?? gal. On July 14th
I've hear that Ridgell always has it...too far a drive from me though.
 
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