Exodus 26 The wooden frame

[seekeroftruth]

Exodus 26:15 “Make upright frames of acacia wood for the tabernacle. 16 Each frame is to be ten cubits long and a cubit and a half wide,[e] 17 with two projections set parallel to each other. Make all the frames of the tabernacle in this way. 18 Make twenty frames for the south side of the tabernacle 19 and make forty silver bases to go under them—two bases for each frame, one under each projection. 20 For the other side, the north side of the tabernacle, make twenty frames 21 and forty silver bases—two under each frame. 22 Make six frames for the far end, that is, the west end of the tabernacle, 23 and make two frames for the corners at the far end. 24 At these two corners they must be double from the bottom all the way to the top and fitted into a single ring; both shall be like that. 25 So there will be eight frames and sixteen silver bases—two under each frame.

26 “Also make crossbars of acacia wood: five for the frames on one side of the tabernacle, 27 five for those on the other side, and five for the frames on the west, at the far end of the tabernacle. 28 The center crossbar is to extend from end to end at the middle of the frames. 29 Overlay the frames with gold and make gold rings to hold the crossbars. Also overlay the crossbars with gold.

30 “Set up the tabernacle according to the plan shown you on the mountain.
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e. Exodus 26:16 That is, about 15 feet long and 2 1/4 feet wide or about 4.5 meters long and 68 centimeters wide

Did you see the size of those frames? That's pretty hefty. This is not some little pup tent. Then again.... I'm not sure what difference it makes.... I couldn't put up a pup tent without written instructions.

This is from the Blueletterbible.org site.

Each board rested on two sockets of silver, each socket made with one talent of silver. Therefore each board rested on a base of 264 pounds (120 kilos) of silver.​

Each bar was made of acacia wood and overlaid in gold. Seemingly, the bars ran the entire length of each side, linking together each board into one system.​

The repetition of this phrase suggests that Moses received a vision of exactly how the tabernacle should look. He had to communicate this vision to the craftsmen who did the actual building.​

The easy English commentary adds this to the discussion.

The extra bars in the shape of a cross would make the whole tent firm. The double poles would stand up straight to support the tent. They fitted into the silver bases and they stood firmly. There was a total 100 silver bases (verses 19, 21, 25, and 32). The Israelites gave all the silver to make those bases (Exodus 38:27). The bases gave the walls strength on the north, south and west sides of the Tabernacle. And at the west end, God told them to make extra strong corners.

The bars in the shape of a cross locked the double poles together. This gave strength to the south, north and west sides. There was a central bar along the whole length of the tent.​

It occurs to me that not only did Moses make that tent without written plans, but, he also instructed others on how it was to be crafted without written plans. Can you imagine how he would have to describe the plans to the 2+million in order to get them to release the gold and silver for the project?

AND it occurs to me that this tent was supposed to be portable. Did you notice the size of those boards and bases? Those boards were 15 feet long and over 2 foot wide. That's sturdier than a deck.

I crochet. I just started a new project called a viral scarf. The pattern repeats itself every few rows. I had a devil of a time figuring out the pattern so I could translate it into yarn. I have stitch by stitch instructions and a U Tube Video on how to make it and it still took me all day to figure it out.

I'm convinced that God must have given Moses a vision of what was to be done as well as a vision of what the final product would be. I bet He even gave Moses the disassembly instructions as well. After all, they were on their way to Canaan when this is taking place, so the Tabernacle Tent had to be constructed, assembled and disassembled, and finally transported.... no small feat for anyone with or without written instruction.

 

[ProximaCentauri]

HC, Moses is just another mythical figure of the ancient Israelites. Furthermore, there is no historical evidence of the exodus and no archaeological evidence that supports the 2 million Israelites in the Sinai in this timeframe.

Exodus is a tribal fairytale used to advance the tribal religious dogma of the ancient Israelites. Nothing more.

 

[seekeroftruth]

HC, Moses is just another mythical figure of the ancient Israelites. Furthermore, there is no historical evidence of the exodus and no archaeological evidence that supports the 2 million Israelites in the Sinai in this timeframe.

Exodus is a tribal fairytale used to advance the tribal religious dogma of the ancient Israelites. Nothing more.

Proverbs 24:1 Do not envy the wicked,
do not desire their company;
2 for their hearts plot violence,
and their lips talk about making trouble.

3 By wisdom a house is built,
and through understanding it is established;
4 through knowledge its rooms are filled
with rare and beautiful treasures.

5 The wise prevail through great power,
and those who have knowledge muster their strength.
6 Surely you need guidance to wage war,
and victory is won through many advisers.

7 Wisdom is too high for fools;
in the assembly at the gate they must not open their mouths.

8 Whoever plots evil
will be known as a schemer.
9 The schemes of folly are sin,
and people detest a mocker.


10 If you falter in a time of trouble,
how small is your strength!
11 Rescue those being led away to death;
hold back those staggering toward slaughter.
12 If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,”
does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who guards your life know it?
Will he not repay everyone according to what they have done?​

 

[ProximaCentauri]

Tsk, tsk HC...relax. You're trapped in such a narrow mindset of dogma induced thoughts and behaviors.

Worshiping a supernatural totalitarian in the sky is not exactly conducive to being a good human being. Do you really need the offer of a reward (heaven) and the threat of punishment (hell) to keep you in line?

Your god has the morals of a murderous psychopath. I think you can find a better role model.

 

[This_person]

Tsk, tsk HC...relax. You're trapped in such a narrow mindset of dogma induced thoughts and behaviors.

Worshiping a supernatural totalitarian in the sky is not exactly conducive to being a good human being. Do you really need the offer of a reward (heaven) and the threat of punishment (hell) to keep you in line?

Your god has the morals of a murderous psychopath. I think you can find a better role model.

Still having trouble with actual reality, PC?

Just so you know, good Christians who understand their position do not do things out of the offer of a reward or the threat of punishment. They do things because they want to glorify God, show appreciation for life itself and all good things in it. See: Job. Heaven and hell are simply a Christian reality, not a reward or punishment. Glorifying God is the true reward - goodness is a reward all by itself.

But, you want to talk about role models. Fine, let's do that. What is the role model of someone who simply has the morals of their mood at the moment? Without a standard (fixed, constant) to follow, that is all atheism has, so I presume it is what you have - your mood at the moment. Let's talk about how psychopathic that is.

 

[seekeroftruth]

Tsk, tsk HC...relax. You're trapped in such a narrow mindset of dogma induced thoughts and behaviors.

Worshiping a supernatural totalitarian in the sky is not exactly conducive to being a good human being. Do you really need the offer of a reward (heaven) and the threat of punishment (hell) to keep you in line?

Your god has the morals of a murderous psychopath. I think you can find a better role model.

I do believe that my God is bigger and badder than any murderous psychopath so there is no reason to worry or be afraid. My God understands dysfunctional families so my family, as dysfunctional as it is, is no problem. My God only requires my complete faith..... and I have to show faith in something or fall for anything.... so that works out perfectly for me.

Jesus, who is my God's only begotten son, came to earth, not to mollycoddle us but to prove that God controls life, death, and time.

Matthew 10:34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

So.... Proxima I don't think I can get a better role model.... apparently the narrow path isn't too your liking.... I'll certainly continue to pray for you....

 

[ProximaCentauri]

I do believe that my God is bigger and badder than any murderous psychopath so there is no reason to worry or be afraid. My God understands dysfunctional families so my family, as dysfunctional as it is, is no problem. My God only requires my complete faith..... and I have to show faith in something or fall for anything.... so that works out perfectly for me.

Jesus, who is my God's only begotten son, came to earth, not to mollycoddle us but to prove that God controls life, death, and time.

Matthew 10:34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

So.... Proxima I don't think I can get a better role model.... apparently the narrow path isn't too your liking.... I'll certainly continue to pray for you....

A ‘god’ that would viciously punish humans for challenging his existence demonstrates a morality more consistent with despots like Kim Jong Un or Saddam Hussein than a benevolent deity.

HC, instead of ‘praying for me’…what you can do for me is use that energy to help others less fortunate.

Donate to organizations that feed, clothe, and provide medical supplies to the impoverished children of the world. Or help others with your time if you’re able.

‘The hands that help are far better than the lips that pray.’

 

[This_person]

A ‘god’ that would viciously punish humans for challenging his existence demonstrates a morality more consistent with despots like Kim Jong Un or Saddam Hussein than a benevolent deity.

So, what you're saying is you really don't understand. That's ok, a lot of people don't.

God doesn't punish, Jesus saves. Big difference. If you, through your own actions, are heading for a waterfall in your raft and someone saves you, that's you being saved. If you choose to not take their help and perish, they didn't punish you - YOU chose the results.

HC, instead of ‘praying for me’…what you can do for me is use that energy to help others less fortunate.

Donate to organizations that feed, clothe, and provide medical supplies to the impoverished children of the world. Or help others with your time if you’re able.

While I do not disagree that these things help, I would tell you one thing and ask another. The thing I would tell you is that religious organizations (and, ultimately, the people that attend and fund these organizations) do far more towards these things than any secular organizations could ever consider even attempting. The thing I would ask is by what standard you believe this is a "good" thing. Do you have a standard beyond how you feel at the moment to determine your morals? Your judgments against God and others? I'm honestly curious to know what it is.

‘The hands that help are far better than the lips that pray.’

Here's another one for you: "Happiness is not a reward, it is a consequence. Suffering is not a punishment, it is a result.” RGI understood this, why don't you?