Faceoff set over death at Phoenix airport

[nhboy]

"Phoenix officials rejected an $8 million wrongful-death claim from the family of Carol Gotbaum an hour after it was filed Wednesday, and they issued a strongly worded letter laying the blame on her husband for letting the troubled New York woman fly to Arizona alone.

Gotbaum, a 45-year-old mother of three, died in a Phoenix police holding cell at Sky Harbor International Airport last September after being taken into custody over a disturbance at a departure gate. Shortly after 1 p.m. Wednesday, attorneys for her husband, Noah Gotbaum, filed the wrongful-death claim, a precursor to a lawsuit.

The claim alleges that police violated national police procedures and their own internal rules by using "excessive and unreasonable force on Carol, as if she was a dangerous criminal, rather than as the sick, intoxicated and vulnerable person she was." It also alleges that Gotbaum was improperly cuffed."

Faceoff set over death at airport

 

[itsbob]

The drunk biatch killed herself.. be done with it.

 

[smcop]

The drunk biatch killed herself.. be done with it.

 

[signora]

It should be thrown out of court especially for the reason they gave - just shows how greedy people can be to try and get $$$ from others w/o taking any blame on themselves.

 

[vraiblonde]

The drunk biatch killed herself.. be done with it.

The CNN commentator was whining about this, saying that "now her children have lost their mother." I was like, honey, if the woman was that far in the bottle that she got drunk while flying to rehab, caused a ruckus, got arrested, then strangled herself struggling against her cuffs, those children lost their mother a long time ago.

 

[signora]

The CNN commentator was whining about this, saying that "now her children have lost their mother." I was like, honey, if the woman was that far in the bottle that she got drunk while flying to rehab, caused a ruckus, got arrested, then strangled herself struggling against her cuffs, those children lost their mother a long time ago.

Well, you do have to feel bad for the children because they are young and did lose their Mom. Even though she had an alcohol addiction you don't know how she was w/her children to judge her. Rehab does help many where maybe she could have been helped and many can overcome alcoholism. But it's too late now because her family allowed her to travel alone knowing she was not stable.

 

[edinsomd]

Sorry, even if you're sh!tfaced drunk, drugged, crazy or crippled, the Po-Po's assume responsibility for your safety after they haul you in. Not that there isn't a lot of blame to spread here, but the fact is she died in their custody. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
Ed

 

[vraiblonde]

Even though she had an alcohol addiction you don't know how she was w/her children to judge her.

If she was that bad off, we can safely assume she wasn't June Cleaver.

But being neither here nor there, she was an adult and bears responsibility for strangling herself trying to get her handcuffs off after being arrested.

 

[signora]

If she was that bad off, we can safely assume she wasn't June Cleaver.

But being neither here nor there, she was an adult and bears responsibility for strangling herself trying to get her handcuffs off after being arrested.

Well, in reality I wouldn't consider June Cleaver to be the ideal Mom. She never raised her voice and put up w/everything Ward said.

Either way, she had an addiction and was going for help for it. But I don't think you should judge someone on how good of a parent they are w/o knowing the facts. But I agree in many ways she caused her own death and I do think her husband, family member or friend should have been traveling w/her.

 

[BadGirl]

Sorry, even if you're sh!tfaced drunk, drugged, crazy or crippled, the Po-Po's assume responsibility for your safety after they haul you in. Not that there isn't a lot of blame to spread here, but the fact is she died in their custody. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
Ed

Not buying it.. if a cop handcuffs you in the back of his car, and you choke yourself to death trying to escape.. tough titties.

You're dead, we save taxpayers money.. win win..

 

[smcop]

Well, in reality I wouldn't consider June Cleaver to be the ideal Mom. She never raised her voice and put up w/everything Ward said.

You're right..not the ideal mom...but wish I could have had her as a wife!!!!!!!

 

[edinsomd]

Not buying it.. if a cop handcuffs you in the back of his car, and you choke yourself to death trying to escape.. tough titties.

You're dead, we save taxpayers money.. win win..

Well aren't you just a charming well of sympathy! You think this woman deserved to die because got stupid and missed her flight? This is exactly why police have established procedures to handle those in custody, safety for the incarcerated and liability protection for the officers. I'm not pointing fingers, I think she should have been escorted to her rehab, but she died in custody and that needs to be investigated.
Ed

 

[signora]

You're right..not the ideal mom...but wish I could have had her as a wife!!!!!!!

June Cleaver should have taken pointers from Lucy Ricardo, Ricky could yell, complain, etc. - but she never listened to him.

 

[itsbob]

Well aren't you just a charming well of sympathy! You think this woman deserved to die because got stupid and missed her flight? This is exactly why police have established procedures to handle those in custody, safety for the incarcerated and liability protection for the officers. I'm not pointing fingers, I think she should have been escorted to her rehab, but she died in custody and that needs to be investigated.
Ed

No it doesn't.. the drunk is dead.

CHEERS!

 

[hvp05]

This is exactly why police have established procedures to handle those in custody, safety for the incarcerated and liability protection for the officers.

This is also a great example that no matter how many rules and procedures the police implement, some nutjob will still find a way to off themself.

Same goes for general society: Liberals establish laws to save the fools from themselves. Fools find new ways to end up dead. Liberals make new laws.

It's a vicious cycle and they never seem to learn.

 

[MMDad]

It was insane to fly to rehab in the first place. She should have just gone to a rehab near home instead of flying to a luxury resort rehab.

Look how well those luxury spa rehabs work for the starlets. It seems like they only learn how to lie convincingly until they get caught again.

Noah Gotbaum only cares about this as a way to get rich. If he actually cared about his wife, he would have been sitting in the seat next to her on the flight. He would have made sure she got on her connection, instead of sitting in the bar getting plastered.

I saw the video. The cops didn't harm her. She did this to herself, and her family was too callous to prevent it in the first place.

 

[BadGirl]

It was insane to fly to rehab in the first place. She should have just gone to a rehab near home instead of flying to a luxury resort rehab.

Look how well those luxury spa rehabs work for the starlets. It seems like they only learn how to lie convincingly until they get caught again.

Noah Gotbaum only cares about this as a way to get rich. If he actually cared about his wife, he would have been sitting in the seat next to her on the flight. He would have made sure she got on her connection, instead of sitting in the bar getting plastered.

I saw the video. The cops didn't harm her. She did this to herself, and her family was too callous to prevent it in the first place.

You just said what I was thinking. How'd you get inside my head like that?