Failure of high school guidance counselors

PeoplesElbow

PeoplesElbow

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With all the talk of student loan forgiveness I want to point out that I run I to a lot of people that went to these bullshit schools like ITT Tech not knowing any better, quite a few of them thought they were getting a useful engineering degree.

I think about my own situation, first family member to go to college, didn't know anything about what or which schools have ABET accreditation and think this could have been me.

I lay the blame on the uselessness of high school guidance counselors.
 
Kyle

Kyle

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They've always been useless.

Somebody whos job consists of never having worked in the real world and then giving free education and career advice.
 
PeoplesElbow

PeoplesElbow

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Kyle said:
They've always been useless.

Somebody whos job consists of never having worked in the real world and then giving free education and career advice.
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Unfortunately the military doesn't seem much better, also know quite a few that used their GI Bill on University of Phoenix to find out it's useless, the military won't hire then for the degree they paid for.
 
Clem72

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Not sure you can blame it on the guidance counselor's, I doubt they ever told someone to go to ITT or University of Phoenix.

Those schools are filled with traditional night schoolers (people looking to start a second career), dropouts (since they don't require a diploma/GED), and people who were probably told "college isn't for you" but liked the commercials.
 
Gilligan

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They aren't all useless....the one I had in HS put a good amount of time in helping me thread my way through the complicated and very competitive process of trying to win a full-ride 4-year NROTC college scholarship.
 
PeoplesElbow

PeoplesElbow

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Clem72 said:
Not sure you can blame it on the guidance counselor's, I doubt they ever told someone to go to ITT or University of Phoenix.

Those schools are filled with traditional night schoolers (people looking to start a second career), dropouts (since they don't require a diploma/GED), and people who were probably told "college isn't for you" but liked the commercials.
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Mines office was full of college and military pamphlets. They certainly wanted to know our plans after school, beyond telling us about the ACT or SAT and recommending we take a language they didn't provide much help. But you would think someone with an office full of college pamphlets and contact info would know a bit about options etc.

Also you would think that since high schools preach college college college they would be of some help to these students. It's a little easier now with internet but back in 92 when I graduated the high school guidance counselors were supposed to be where we went to get this info.
 
Monello

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PeoplesElbow said:
I lay the blame on the uselessness of high school guidance counselors.
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Like a lot of problems or challenges in life, the fault lies with the person making the decision. Due diligence. That's why it's key that your sample group consist of more than 1 person's advice or opinion.

Besides, those painful life lessons are the ones people never forget nor repeat.
 
PeoplesElbow

PeoplesElbow

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Monello said:
Like a lot of problems or challenges in life, the fault lies with the person making the decision. Due diligence. That's why it's key that your sample group consist of more than 1 person's advice or opinion.

Besides, those painful life lessons are the ones people never forget nor repeat.
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These are kids though, with an adult I agree, but there is a certain trust that the public school guides them into their future.

It also isn't advice or opinion I am faulting, it is their failure to provide actual facts and information.
 
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