Fascinating

[PsyOps]

...that is an instant classic! My brother says it doesn't matter how John Kerry voted on the Iraq War; it's what he meant.

Now, what words mean don't matter; it's what someone means they mean!

Well, let me try asking you this again, maybe you'll give me an answer this time: Do you think people heard Paul explain why 911 happened or do you think people heard Paul blame America for 911?

 

[Larry Gude]

Ah yes...

Oh come on Larry, did you pay attention to the last election? Was it based on Americans "thinking about such big things" or was it more based on the left's ability to promote their propaganda (IOW... 91 was America's fault)? Americans don't want to think about big things. They want to be spoon fed. The left knows this and only need to thrust this out there with their spin on it to further their cause.

...the 'everyone is an blooming idiot accept for me and can not be held responsible for weighty things' excuse.

Do you ever wonder why people would care to try and contol a mob, given that a mob is mindless and cannot be controlled?

Do you ever wonder how people could ever vote for those idiots given the idiots we vote for?

Do you ever lose sleep over people not being able to understand simple English?

Do you ever wonder that maybe you're losing sleep over your impression that people don't understand English yet they may actually understand it very well but the BS and inconsitencies from one side might drive them to support the BS and inconsistencies from the other side based on how photogenic this person or that is, given that both sides lie and cheat and steal and, well, yah gotta vote for someone?

 

[Larry Gude]

I've been told...

Well, let me try asking you this again, maybe you'll give me an answer this time: Do you think people heard Paul explain why 911 happened or do you think people heard Paul blame America for 911?

..by a reliable source that I heard Ron Paul say we invited the attacks and that people heard Ron Paul say we not only invited them but we deserved them. In short, we all heard Ron Paul blame America.


War is peace.

 

[Larry Gude]

How can you say that?

Ron Paul is right. We should keep our noise out of other peoples business. Trade with them on an equal basis, but stay out of their politics.


Ron Paul is also for returning the power to the proper place, the people and the states. This also reflects the intent of the founders.

...Ron Paul says America is to blame for 9/11 and we invited it and we deserved it.

 

[PsyOps]

...a verb house into void elephant coffee throwing situation in which outside becomes not pickles as far as smiling at tree under the other conscription.

And, as far as that banana's, it is important not matter pick up truck guitars are really plaster in so far as rejoinder utmost thumps baseball cap.

Agreed not?

 

[Larry Gude]

I've changed my mind...

What was his purpose for saying that?

...Ron Paul said that to blame America.

 

[Larry Gude]

What don't...

...you understand? I used plain English. Damn, maybe I didn't allow for how you may or may not interpret words...back to the drawing board.

 

[2ndAmendment]

And Paul even brought it up because.....he agrees with OBL - we shouldn't be over there. So, he did in effect say we brought 9-11 on ourselves, which is the way OBL rationalizes it as well. I didn't need Rudy to tell me what I'd just heard. The second the words were out of Ron Paul's mouth, I was like, "Dayum!"

We know you are a Rudy lover. Rudy is an abomination to conservatives and rightly so.

Right now, Ron Paul is the only strict constructionist of the Republican or Democratic candidates. Strict construct is real conservatism. Everything else is compromise.

Ron Paul has attracted a lot of attention. He wins or leads the polls taken after the debates and his YouTube site has more subscriberss than any of the Republican or Democratic candidates. His message is resonating with someone besides me. I don't agree with everything he says but certainly more than any of the others. The other thing about Ron Paul is his voting record supports what he says. He does not speak with a forked tongue like most other politicians.

 

[PsyOps]

...the 'everyone is an blooming idiot accept for me and can not be held responsible for weighty things' excuse.

Do you ever wonder why people would care to try and contol a mob, given that a mob is mindless and cannot be controlled?

Do you ever wonder how people could ever vote for those idiots given the idiots we vote for?

Do you ever lose sleep over people not being able to understand simple English?

Do you ever wonder that maybe you're losing sleep over your impression that people don't understand English yet they may actually understand it very well but the BS and inconsitencies from one side might drive them to support the BS and inconsistencies from the other side based on how photogenic this person or that is, given that both sides lie and cheat and steal and, well, yah gotta vote for someone?

It goes back to you say "red" and everyone hears "green". I can't explain what causes a person to be a liberal. But they exist. In politics I see red, they see blue. Why is that Larry? So how is it that Paul could make a statement that means this and all those knucleheads out there will interpret it differently than you and I? How could that possibly be?

 

[PsyOps]

...you understand? I used plain English. Damn, maybe I didn't allow for how you may or may not interpret words...back to the drawing board.

Well, gee Larry, perhaps you better explain it this lemming.

 

[2ndAmendment]

So answer this:


How do we prevent further attacks? Pull our military out of the whole Middle East?

Why do we have a standing military presence anywhere except in our own country? After you answer that one, is a standing army allowed under the Constitution?

 

[vraiblonde]

The other thing about Ron Paul is his voting record supports what he says. He does not speak with a forked tongue like most other politicians.

Great - he's truthful. But I still don't agree with him. Shoot, Al Gore could be the most honest person on earth, and I STILL wouldn't vote for him because I don't agree with his take on the issues.

 

[vraiblonde]

After you answer that one, is a standing army allowed under the Constitution?

It's not forbidden under the Constitution, either.

 

[vraiblonde]

I am an idiot for not seeing it right away like you and Rudy, the All knowing.

At least you admit it

 

[2ndAmendment]

I'm just curious why Ron Paul even brought it up. What was the point of reiterating OBL's kooky ideas in a televised presidential debate?

The Fox poll of "who won" the debate showed Paul to be the leader by a decent margin. So the only thing I can think of is that Leftists voted for him in droves to make him look more popular than what he is. Because he made a few good points, but he wasn't the "winner" by any stretch, and that 9-11 comment should have killed him.

Or he is appealing to those who want, really want, smaller federal government and fewer foreign entanglements. I think he is appealing to those that have voted for the lessor of two evils and find they can legitimately support Ron Paul instead of choosing him because he has got to be better than Hillery and appealing to those who haven't voted because they don't like either parties candidate.

 

[vraiblonde]

...Ron Paul says America is to blame for 9/11 and we invited it and we deserved it.

It disappoints me when you delve off into hyperbole.

Nobody said Ron Paul said we "deserved" to be attacked.

 

[2ndAmendment]

I heard Ron Paul justifying the 9-11 attacks as well. Sorry. Ya'll can spin for your boy, but I sat right there and watched it.

His basic jist was that if we weren't over there interfering in the Middle East, terrorists wouldn't attack us. This plays right into his nonintervention, isolationist views that he is very clear about.

So we started it by getting in their business and defiling their soil with our presence. Therefore we had it coming.

He even specifically mentioned Iraq, which he would like us to abandon, and said that we'd been bombing them for 10 years (no wonder they're pissed). But the fact of the matter is that Saddam invaded another country, the UN (led by the Great Satan) kicked his butt back to his own turf, then HE refused to comply with the terms of cease-fire. So WHO'S fault is it that the US is at war with Iraq? Ron Paul says it's our fault and we should butt out.

I don't think he could have been any clearer.

Go drink some more KoolAid. I hear Rudy has a stand set up on Great Mills Road.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Of course he did. If he'd let that go, I'd have wondered if he was asleep.

Welcome to politics, Ron Paul. Enjoy your stay.

He has enjoyed it. He has been re-elected several times.

 

[vraiblonde]

Go drink some more KoolAid. I hear Rudy has a stand set up on Great Mills Road.

You think he has sandwiches, too? I didn't get any breakfast....

 

[PsyOps]

Rudy is an abomination to conservatives and rightly so.

I am quite the conservative but never thought of Rudy as an abomination.

But... Rudy and Hillary in the finals. Who do you vote for?