Fat Pig Rosie O'Donell opens her fat mouth again.

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Rosie O’Donnell: The Second Amendment is 'Not Really a Right'
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Posted by Scott Whitlock on October 3, 2006

Well known liberal Rosie O’Donnell used the shooting at an Amish school in Pennsylvania as a springboard to promote gun control. O’Donnell, who famously sparred with Tom Selleck, stated on Tuesday's edition of ABC's "The View" that the event should spur tighter restrictions:

O’Donnell: "I think the horror of imagining six to thirteen-year-old girls handcuffed together and shot execution style, one by one, is perhaps enough to awaken the nation that maybe we need some stricter gun control laws."

This quickly led to an exchange with the program’s token conservative, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, in which O’Donnell asserted that there is no right to own a gun:

Hasselbeck: "So you can’t- You can't take way the right to, to bear arms."

O’Donnell: "Well, it’s not really a right. There’s debate as to what that-"

Hasselbeck: "It is a right. It’s in our Constitution. It’s the Second Amendment."

O’Donnell: "Well, let’s talk instead of yell."

Hasselbeck: "I’m not yelling."

O’Donnell quickly expanded the discussion into an attack on the NRA:

O’Donnell: "I know that the Constitution has been interpreted many, many times. In our country the president puts his hand on the Bible and swears to uphold the Constitution. In the United States there is debate over whether or not the right to bear arms includes the lobby organization of the NRA, allowing no rules and no registration and absolutely, sort of, carte blanche, to make guns available to Americans in a way they're not in the rest of the world."

Hasselbeck initially attempted to placate the comedian on the October 3 show, but quickly abandoned it in favor of a vigorous defense of the Second Amendment:

Hasselbeck: "There should be- There should be a middle ground. There should be a middle ground."

Walters: "Well, there are some gun control. I mean, without guns-"

O’Donnell: "Well, what about this? The firearm death rate among children in America 0 to 14 is 12 times higher then all 25 other industrialized nation combined. Combined."

Hasselbeck: "What about the fact that firearms- Well, firearms are used 60 times more to defend people then they are to take a life in this country, too. That’s another statistic. This is why we have the debate."

O’Donnell attempted to interrupt, but Hasselbeck quickly cut her off and delivered a second argument for the right to bear arms:

O’Donnell: "I know, but maybe-"

Hasselbeck: "These things confuse us as, as Americans, but, in, in the results of children dying kind of bring it to a front, they bring it right to a boil. And that's why we have this discussion. That should not happen. But you have to remember that people protect themselves. In the times of segregation, when there were bigoted officers out there trying to just rule over and have government tyranny, people had to defend themselves somehow and they did it with guns."

The liberal members of "The View" responded to Hasselbeck’s firm arguments by resorting to typical liberal cliches:

O’Donnell: "You can find an automobile that has a VIN number, if an automobile is stolen and you can trace it back to where the person bought the car and who bought it."

Behar: "Don’t tell them how to get it."

Hasselbeck: "You can. You can. I found out that I had a lemon that way."

O’Donnell: "You can buy a gun in America and it is not licensed. We can't trace who bought it, who owned it or who is responsible. That’s wrong."

This is a tired argument by the gun control crowd. If you have to get a licence to drive, why not to own a gun? The simple answer is that driving a car is a privilege, not a right. Whether O’Donnell likes it or not, the right to own a gun is in the Second Amendment of the Constitution.

A few minutes later, the discussion turned to what would have happened if the shooter didn’t have a gun. Once again, it was left to Hasselbeck to make the obvious point:

O’Donnell: "If the man had a knife and he walked in there and there were adult women there and the man said I would like the women to leave because I'm going to keep the girls, I guarantee you, if that man did not have a gun, the mothers who were the teachers in that school would never have left those children alone in that room. Never."

[Applause]

Hasselbeck: "What if they had a gun? What if- Hang on, let's just flip it. I’m saying, let’s discuss all sides. What if, What if those women had guns on them and were able to defend themselves?"

O’Donnell: So you’re saying, you think we should arm teachers?"

Hasselbeck: "I'm not saying teachers should be armed. I'm just giving you the flip side of this situation-"

O’Donnell: "But the flip side is you’re saying-"

Hasselbeck: "-that is a lot of times guns are used to protect people, so we can’t be so extreme."

Co-host Joy Behar, a short time later, brought up the second liberal cliche about guns:

Behar: "I think people want to hunt, that's a right as you’re describing with their rifles. Why do they need an AK--47? Are these deer in the Israeli army?"

[Applause]

Behar: "What is the purpose of a machine gun to hunt with? Now that should be outlawed. Do you agree?"

Walters: Most people do not hunt with-"

Hasselbeck: "I would agree with that. And if you're a good hunter, you don't need that type of weapon."

Walters: "They don't hunt with machine guns."

Yes, surprisingly, Barbara Walters provided the voice of reason. Hunters don’t use machine guns to kill deer. But why would anyone expect Joy Behar to know that? All she knows about hunters are the grotesque stereotypes that people like Rosie O’Donnell propagate. O’Donnell demonstrated clear ignorance about firearms with her next point:

O’Donnell: "But Barbara Walters. In America, it’s shocking that one is able to purchase an AK-47."

Walters: I’m agreeing with you."

Behar: "Why do they have them?"

O’Donnell: "Right. Because it is a $6 billion industry. And they have way to much power in a democracy, if you ask me."

In fact, it is very difficult to purchase an AK-47. But, again, why expect Rosie O’Donnell to be knowledgeable about a subject? It’s so much more fun to be emotional.

Hasselbeck’s reply, and Rosie's closing comment, hinted that viewers have not seen the last of such fierce debates on the ABC program:

Hasselbeck: "Well, the problem is statistics too. Because if you have restrictions, um, on guns, are not showing the results we’d like. You know what I mean?"

O’Donnell: "Well, you’re wrong, Elisabeth. And I’ll give you all the information at the commercial. We’re going to take a break and come back after this with more hot topics to annoy, I’m sure, a lot of people at home."

Great arguement she makes about "what if the guy had just had a machette the teacher mothers would of stopped it."

She must of missed those 4 planes that got hijacked 5 years ago with box cutters.

Also if they are going to try to make arguements using the AK-47 they should atleast research it and find that 99% of those owned in America are semi-auto and are barely more of a "machine gun" than a 30.30 deer rifle with a higher capacity magazine. Ohh the horror.
 

Pushrod

Patriot
What if the psychopath in Pennsylvania had gone into the school with a knife instead of a gun? Well, maybe this would have happened:
Japan knife attacks

The point is, if some derainged person is set on killing someone, the tool that is used is beside the point. It is the crazy person that is doing the killing, not the tool that they choose to use! Something has changed in our society that is producing these maniacs!!
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
Until Rosie disarms her bodyguards, I can't have any respect for her views on the matter. You can't insist on getting rid of guns while allowing your own guys to have the right to concealed weapons. It's far beyond hypocritical.

Also that statistic she cited is a little misconstrued. The age range and demographic for most gun deaths among youth is the 13-25 bracket - and almost exclusively among male urban minorities. *Gangs*. Stop gang violence, and you just about end this problem.
 

bdh802

Bob
Pushrod said:
What if the psychopath in Pennsylvania had gone into the school with a knife instead of a gun? Well, maybe this would have happened:
Japan knife attacks

The point is, if some derainged person is set on killing someone, the tool that is used is beside the point. It is the crazy person that is doing the killing, not the tool that they choose to use! Something has changed in our society that is producing these maniacs!!


If we tightened our gun control laws and made it harder or impossible for the average citizen to own a gun, it would only make the criminal's job easier. Criminals will always find guns, illegal or not. It would make them feel more confident going into a situation knowing that Mr. Victim didn't have a gun. Although tragic, I think it's much better to read about a criminal being blown away by a victim than it is the other way around.

Rosie is nothing but a waste of human flesh. The sight of her makes me wanna :barf:
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
bdh802 said:
If we tightened our gun control laws and made it harder or impossible for the average citizen to own a gun, it would only make the criminal's job easier. Criminals will always find guns, illegal or not.

I know this gets mentioned often enough, but it bears repeating.

DC is a classic example. It is *ILLEGAL* to own a handgun, but somehow the crooks still use them. For a while it was murder capital of the world - how did THAT happen, pray tell, when it's illegal to own a gun?
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
SamSpade said:
Until Rosie disarms her bodyguards, I can't have any respect for her views on the matter. You can't insist on getting rid of guns while allowing your own guys to have the right to concealed weapons. It's far beyond hypocritical.

I would have liked to seen Rosie try to explain that one away, during the debate.

Like: "Ms O' Donnell, you do have bodyguards for your protection, yes?"

"Are they carrying firearms?"

"Why?" :lmao:
 

rack'm

Jaded
SamSpade said:
I know this gets mentioned often enough, but it bears repeating.

DC is a classic example. It is *ILLEGAL* to own a handgun, but somehow the crooks still use them. For a while it was murder capital of the world - how did THAT happen, pray tell, when it's illegal to own a gun?


Come on now, how was Marion Barry supposed to protect his crack dealers if he allowed the populous to protect themselves with guns??
 
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remaxrealtor

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chernmax said:
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vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Penn said:
I would have liked to seen Rosie try to explain that one away, during the debate.

Like: "Ms O' Donnell, you do have bodyguards for your protection, yes?"

"Are they carrying firearms?"

"Why?" :lmao:
Hasselbeck should have nailed her on that. Never send a neo-con to do a conservative's job.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
vraiblonde said:
Hasselbeck should have nailed her on that. Never send a neo-con to do a conservative's job.

Wish people knew the difference. Among the Bush-haters, "neo-con" is slang for "the conservatives we really don't like".
 

Pushrod

Patriot
God, where did they get that audience? They were applauding for just about everything that PEFAH Rosie spouted. The producers must have been flashing the "Applause" sign just for her!
 

LordStanley

I know nothing
I doubt that Hasselback will last much longer on the View.....

Seems like its more Rosie's view, and everyone else just sits there....

She's going to run that show into the ground
 

lillymay

New Member
I saw that show this week! Hilarious! Poor little Hasselbeck attempting to cut off the loud mouth Rosie in talking over her and then getting snaped at saying she was yelling and then Hasselbeck said she wasn't yelling that people do tell her that but she just believes it's a misconception because her voice is high pitched! I would've biatch slapped that pig right outta her Liz Claiborne Plus Size Tent and off her enormous can just to see if her body guards would jump in with their "concealed" weapons drawn on poor little Hasselbeck! Why oh why didn't the rest of the panel have didly squat to add! And how many times do I have to hear the word Vagina come out of Rosies mouth! God it makes me want to hurl!
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
lillymay said:
I saw that show this week! Hilarious! Poor little Hasselbeck attempting to cut off the loud mouth Rosie in talking over her and then getting snaped at saying she was yelling and then Hasselbeck said she wasn't yelling that people do tell her that but she just believes it's a misconception because her voice is high pitched! I would've biatch slapped that pig right outta her Liz Claiborne Plus Size Tent and off her enormous can just to see if her body guards would jump in with their "concealed" weapons drawn on poor little Hasselbeck! Why oh why didn't the rest of the panel have didly squat to add! And how many times do I have to hear the word Vagina come out of Rosies mouth! God it makes me want to hurl!
:roflmao:

Good post - very descriptive. :yay:
 
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