fatal accident

jtjccgirl

New Member
RT. 4 and Brooms Island Road. I was about the fourth car back on my way to PF and could not believe how bad this looked. I prayed for everyone,but just saw that it was a fatality.... So Sad,and happening too often.
 

Hessian

Well-Known Member
It was ugly...

We were stuck 2 miles back & it took us 45 minutes to get past, by that time three Helos had arrived & exited.
Is there any further news on this accident (ie survivors?...I heard an unsubstantiated rumor and I want some clarification)
Bay news??
 

Hessian

Well-Known Member
Thanks Sunflower...

That article spelled it out sadly enough.

I suspect a number of our elderly citizens are a bit overwhelmed by the traffic & the high speeds around here. My folks won't drive down here anymore because of distance, speeds, and different traffic patterns.

and I have to start my daughter in Driver's ed soon!:cds:
 

bcp

In My Opinion
I dont even like to drive down there, I think its insane and I drive the beltway through silver spring every day
 

bohman

Well-Known Member
I dont even like to drive down there, I think its insane and I drive the beltway through silver spring every day

I have to agree. I used to drive that stretch of beltway daily, too. And while it's filled with aggressive tailgaters and it's a bit of a war zone, when you're out there every day you learn the unwritten rules, the usual patterns, and there are ways to stay (somewhat) safe.

SOMD traffic has no rhyme or reason. It's different every day. And you never know what the next idiot is going to do to you. And it's not just speeders - the slow drivers are just as likely to pull out in front of you.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Its not the speeders, at least in this case, or in most cases. Its simply failing to ensure you both the right of way and the clearance. Most of our fatal accidents come down to this.
 

Kat_Hunter

New Member
Why is there a blinking red light during rush hour?
Ya dont have a good line of vision from that light.
Shoulda been a solid red light.
Sad she died and hubby is in critical condition!
 

jtjccgirl

New Member
Very sad...I heard through family members the Husband (driver) is not doing very well at all. Bless his heart...I guess we all make mistakes - even at 80 yr.old
I also hope the driver of the other car is pulling through. I was on scene and it was very tramatic. I do agree with hunter that there should not be a flashing light at that intersection at all......
 

Wenchy

Hot Flash
I also prefer the beltway over the mess on 4. The left merges at high speed through a narrow thruway screw around with a person's brain and also mess with the people going 60+ while they have a green (or non-existant) light.

There is something to be said about NJ and their "jughandles". The new roundabouts on 2 are an improvement...IMO.

What is the solution for 235?
 

SoMD_Fun_Guy

Do you like apples?
I also prefer the beltway over the mess on 4. The left merges at high speed through a narrow thruway screw around with a person's brain and also mess with the people going 60+ while they have a green (or non-existant) light.

There is something to be said about NJ and their "jughandles". The new roundabouts on 2 are an improvement...IMO.

What is the solution for 235?

I don't think there is a solution for 235.

Oh I know - let's use up that huge amount of DOT taxdollar $ available and build a flyover with on/off ramps. :sarcasm:

There's always talk of what should be done but in the end there really is no $ to pay for any fixes. Just look at the 235/4 intersection and the need for a new bridge. How long has that discussion been goin on?

~
 

bcp

In My Opinion
I think the problem with 235/4 is that the planners dont seem to understand or care that there are limited roads to bring people in and out of southern maryland, they keep building more and more homes with no way to transport people from them to areas north and west of them.
basically you have two roads out. there is no way those roads can continue to carry the load that is being put on them.
 

RPMDAD

Well-Known Member
You mean "we all make mistakes, especially at 80 years old." Sorry, but something has to be done about so many elderly people on the road without all their faculties.

Regretfully same could be said about some of our teenage drivers also.
 

rigz1381

ohmergerd
Regretfully same could be said about some of our teenage drivers also.

Ask any driver's ed teacher. They would prefer to drive with a teenager than someone in their 60's and above. Sure the other age range has "experience", but the reaction time of younger drivers is SIGNIFICANTLY better. Last time I checked, not many fatality accidents lately involving teens (not under influences that is)

While incredibly incredibly sad, I don't believe this was anything other than an elderly man who just pulled in front of someone. Not an accident, just a mistake. A really bad mistake.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Ask any driver's ed teacher. They would prefer to drive with a teenager than someone in their 60's and above. Sure the other age range has "experience", but the reaction time of younger drivers is SIGNIFICANTLY better. Last time I checked, not many fatality accidents lately involving teens (not under influences that is)

While incredibly incredibly sad, I don't believe this was anything other than an elderly man who just pulled in front of someone. Not an accident, just a mistake. A really bad mistake.

Maybe not lately, but automobile crashes are the number one killer of people between 15 and 20.Heres a few more stats from the NHTSA

Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens, accounting for more than one in three deaths in this age group.1 In 2009, eight teens ages 16 to 19 died every day from motor vehicle injuries. Per mile driven, teen drivers ages 16 to 19 are four times more likely than older drivers to crash


In 2009, about 3,000 teens in the United States aged 15–19 were killed and more than 350,000 were treated in emergency departments for injuries suffered in motor-vehicle crashes.1,2

Young people ages 15-24 represent only 14% of the U.S. population. However, they account for 30% ($19 billion) of the total costs of motor vehicle injuries among males and 28% ($7 billion) of the total costs of motor vehicle injuries among females.3

Around here, I think its about tied between older drivers and teens, with the teems more likely to be involved in a fatal single vehicle and the older drivers more likely to have a fatal failure to yield.
 

CTSP04

New Member
Really?

I agree with CandyBare- 18 and then tests for over 65.

I disagree on waiting until 18 for licensure. It's hard enough getting practice hours in with teens at 16 and 17 years old when they are living at home full time. I can't imagine trying to do it when they are working full time or away at college.
 
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