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Like You??????????OR you can remain ignorant.
No sense in re evaluating yours. You are crazy as a loon.
littlelady
God bless the USA
Y’all should listen to/read what Dr. Gorka has to say. He is awesome. That’s all.
Papadopoulos was a low level UNPAID Volunteer talking to the Russians ON HIS OWN .... quit acting like he was taking orders from Trump
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This_person
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Of what do you feel I am uninformed? Is it whether or not the Trump campaign and/or Russians released verifiably false information on Clinton? I am not uninformed on that - I'm fully informed that they did not.OR you can remain ignorant.
You can jump to conclusions based on statistics of "generally the case" and "usually means", but I prefer to stick with facts. The facts are these, and they are undisputed:
- The Clintons reaped tens of millions of dollars from the Russians
- Sec. Clinton then sold 20% of our uranium to Russia
- The Clinton campaign and DNC paid for the final product of a demonstrably-false dossier (nice word for "hit piece") on Trump
- The people the Clinton campaign and DNC paid to do that were also paying the Russian lawyer who sought out the Trump campaign with promises of "dirt" on Clinton - but then met with high-ranking officials of the Trump campaign and chose to talk an entirely different subject
- No information was offered by the Trump campaign which is verifiably-false on Sec. Clinton
- No information was offered by the Russians that was verifiably-false against Sec. Clinton
Now, if we are going to go with "generally the case", it is generally the case that when the Clintons are involved some shady sh!t is going to go down - as demonstrated by the number of deals in which they have been involved that include many people in the deal going to jail. So, that "usually means" something like the Russian lawyer, who we know was paid by the same law firm that paid Fusion GPS but we don't know what for, was possibly paid to set up the meeting with the Trump campaign so that the whole "Russian collusion" murky inuendo could be started.
Those are the facts, and they are not in dispute.
Midnightrider
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Papadopoulos was a low level UNPAID Volunteer talking to the Russians ON HIS OWN .... quit acting like he was taking orders from Trump
As soon as he started having contact with the Russians he moved up in the campaign and started dealing with manafort and Gates. You really need to read that charging document and stop parroting what SHS is saying.
oh ok, that says this guy was taking orders from the campaign ... keep spinning it baby, keep spinning it
Maybe just maybe it’s time to stop bringing up the Clinton’s in every conversation about Trump considering neither of them have any government role at the moment .
Maybe you should be concerned about what is happening right now
Where was Trump mentioned in any of the indictments?
You just keep wishing and praying.......
Nothing is happening......
PsyOps
Pixelated
So he was colluding with Hillary?
He pleaded guilty to lying about when and where he got ahold of Hillary’s emails. Oh and BTW, he was part of trumps campaign at the time. Yeah, I’m sure there is nothing to see there
PsyOps
Pixelated
Funny, all of Manafort's indictments were things he did long before Trump even started his campaign; you know, not "right now", but WAY in the past.
And I wish you people on the left took that same advice when you incessantly blamed Bush for everything that went wrong during the Obama tenure.
Doesn't matter if he was paid or unpaid. It's funny how all of a sudden, the Trump people are trying to distance themselves from the true by acting like Papadopoulos was the coffee boy.
Papadopoulos was a low level UNPAID Volunteer talking to the Russians ON HIS OWN .... quit acting like he was taking orders from Trump
This_person
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I am concerned about what is happening right now. A criminal is on the loose, and needs to be charged and properly prosecuted.
Midnightrider
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read the charging document. He was working with high level campaign officials who encouraged him to pursue connections with Russia. The WP has identified those officals as manfort and gates.
intentionally confused yourself I see.......So he was colluding with Hillary?
not exactly, the conspiracy against the USA and some of the others are said to have gone into 2017. However, the prosecutor who represented the SC in court apparently indicated that this was just the tip of the iceburg for both the investigation and the possible charges against manafort
Do you know who else was an unpaid volunteer? Manafort
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.... the indictment against George Papadopoulos is based on emails provided to the special counsel by the White House / Trump campaign. This includes a series of emails where Papadopoulos urged the campaign to take a meeting with Russian government agents.
These request for a meeting were ignored by senior campaign officials. Papadopoulos was brought in to branch out relations to Greece, NOT Russia. His role in the campaign was minor and the evidence provided to the special counsel, again came directly from the White House. This shows the White House has been cooperating fully with the special counsel and has nothing to hide.
https://medium.com/@rossdaniels/breaking-john-roberts-white-house-source-george-papadopoulos-evidence-provided-by-the-white-house-630eae043b6e
5. What About George Papadopolous?
Perhaps because the Manafort/Gates indictment was unrelated to the campaign or Trump, reporters quickly turned their attention to the more surprising news that Trump policy advisor George Papadopolous had not just pled guilty to making false statements to federal investigators, but had become what’s called a “proactive cooperator” with investigators. That means he may have been used to try to lure other Trump affiliates into false testimony or obstructions of justice.
The guilty plea was related to a single count of Papadopolous telling investigators false things about the timing of his discussions with Russian-connected contacts. Trump defenders say that he was an insignificant volunteer with no access to Trump while Trump critics are saying this is evidence of the Trump campaign’s intent to collude.
Former federal prosecutor McCarthy says the evidence in the plea document is exculpatory for Trump. Papadopolous was told, apparently falsely, that Russians had acquired thousands of Clinton emails. He was presumably willing to receive these emails. But if Russia had to inform a low-level campaign figure of this fact so the campaign could learn about it, that would mean they had nothing to do with the acquisition of the emails. And there is no evidence the claim was true to begin with.
While the guilty plea isn’t in and of itself bad for Trump, Papadopolous’ work as a proactive cooperator may yield additional results.
http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/31/7-takeaways-from-muellers-charges-in-russia-collusion-probe/
Perhaps because the Manafort/Gates indictment was unrelated to the campaign or Trump, reporters quickly turned their attention to the more surprising news that Trump policy advisor George Papadopolous had not just pled guilty to making false statements to federal investigators, but had become what’s called a “proactive cooperator” with investigators. That means he may have been used to try to lure other Trump affiliates into false testimony or obstructions of justice.
The guilty plea was related to a single count of Papadopolous telling investigators false things about the timing of his discussions with Russian-connected contacts. Trump defenders say that he was an insignificant volunteer with no access to Trump while Trump critics are saying this is evidence of the Trump campaign’s intent to collude.
Former federal prosecutor McCarthy says the evidence in the plea document is exculpatory for Trump. Papadopolous was told, apparently falsely, that Russians had acquired thousands of Clinton emails. He was presumably willing to receive these emails. But if Russia had to inform a low-level campaign figure of this fact so the campaign could learn about it, that would mean they had nothing to do with the acquisition of the emails. And there is no evidence the claim was true to begin with.
While the guilty plea isn’t in and of itself bad for Trump, Papadopolous’ work as a proactive cooperator may yield additional results.
http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/31/7-takeaways-from-muellers-charges-in-russia-collusion-probe/
Midnightrider
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Hey dummy, the whitehouse and the campaign are required to cooperate with the SC. If they didn’t they would face obstruction charges.
.... the indictment against George Papadopoulos is based on emails provided to the special counsel by the White House / Trump campaign. This includes a series of emails where Papadopoulos urged the campaign to take a meeting with Russian government agents.
These request for a meeting were ignored by senior campaign officials. Papadopoulos was brought in to branch out relations to Greece, NOT Russia. His role in the campaign was minor and the evidence provided to the special counsel, again came directly from the White House. This shows the White House has been cooperating fully with the special counsel and has nothing to hide.
https://medium.com/@rossdaniels/breaking-john-roberts-white-house-source-george-papadopoulos-evidence-provided-by-the-white-house-630eae043b6e
HAHAHAH.
But you aren't concerned with any of the criminals that have or are currently filling the White House. How convenient. Breitbart and the rest of that trash media really did a number on you