first Charges supposedly filed in Mueller investigation

[Hijinx]

It is abundantly clear. If you can’t see that you are blind. Yet you have no problem believing conspiracy theories about pedophalia that are completely unfounded and claim that you aren’t biased.

Just forget accusations of bias. Yours sticks out like a sore thumb.

 

[Gilligan]

. It’s no surprise as the collusion has been proven in two seperate instance now.

Where has any illegal act been proven?

 

[Midnightrider]

Where has any illegal act been proven?

Guilty plea. Look up what they mean and what Papas says

 

[This_person]

read papas guilty plea again. He clearly admits arranging meetings with the Russians and getting those approved by campaign management. That is abundantly clear evidence of collusion. As for the illegal parts, some of them have been described in the charging documents and the rest you will just have to wait for. Mueller is investigating it.

It's "abundently" clear already, though, right? So, what do we have to wait for?

According to Merriam-Webster

Definition of collusion

:secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose acting in collusion with the enemy

Where's the illegal or deceitful purpose? Is it illegal to get "dirt" on your political opponent?

 

[Hijinx]

Is it illegal to get "dirt" on your political opponent?

Only if you are a Republican. It's perfectly alright for Democrats. And if you cannot find anything you can make it up.
Like the Russian Dossier.

 

[Gilligan]

Guilty plea. Look up what they mean and what Papas says

Guilty of lying about his contacts. Where is the "guilty of collusion" plea? Where is the charge of "collusion"?

 

[Midnightrider]

Guilty of lying about his contacts. Where is the "guilty of collusion" plea? Where is the charge of "collusion"?

Bwhahahaha
Guilty of lying about colluding with the Russians to affect the campaign. But who is counting

 

[Hijinx]

Guilty of lying about his contacts. Where is the "guilty of collusion" plea? Where is the charge of "collusion"?

Why do you continue to argue with this person.

You know that he is biased beyond all reason. Insane actually.
Other than being amusing to a point, his posts are a total waste.

 

[Midnightrider]

Why do you continue to argue with this person.

You know that he is biased beyond all reason. Insane actually.
Other than being amusing to a point, his posts are a total waste.

You really hate when logic and reason invade your safe space

 

[Hijinx]

You really hate when logic and reason invade your safe space

Well if we admitted that there was Russian collusion, would you admit that it isn't against the law?
Logic would say that insisting that collusion was against the law when you are the only person in the world who thinks it is proves false logic.
But you go ahead, Keep proving your ignorance.

 

[Midnightrider]

Well if we admitted that there was Russian collusion, would you admit that it isn't against the law?
Logic would say that insisting that collusion was against the law when you are the only person in the world who thinks it is proves false logic.
But you go ahead, Keep proving your ignorance.

I have never said that collusion is against the law, so that is easy.
However There are NUMEROUS crimes that could be charged as part of collusion as we are seeing. The collusion was proven, it’s just a matter of seeing what laws were broken at this point.

 

[This_person]

The collusion was proven, it’s just a matter of seeing what laws were broken at this point.

According to Merriam-Webster

Definition of collusion

:secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose acting in collusion with the enemy

Where's the illegal or deceitful purpose? Is it illegal to get "dirt" on your political opponent?



So, how was the "collusion" proven? What's been demonstrated is that guy admits he lied to investigators. He said he met with them, or set up a meeting with them rather. Having a meeting - clandestine or not - is not "collusion". You keep using that word as if you know what it means, but read the definition above. There's been no proof of a secret agreement, or secret cooperation, and espeically no proof of illegal or decieful purposes.

In fact, quite the opposite has been demonstrated so far.

you're going to have to try again, because you have not convinced anyone as far as I can tell, and the only people this indictment proves anything with respect to Russian "collusion" with the Trump campaign are people who are very very clueless. They're the same people that think Clinton wasn't impeached, or Nixon was, or Clinton's impeachment was over getting a BJ in the Oval Office.

 

[Hijinx]

I have never said that collusion is against the law, so that is easy.
However There are NUMEROUS crimes that could be charged as part of collusion as we are seeing. The collusion was proven, it’s just a matter of seeing what laws were broken at this point.

Collusion was proven against Hillary. Perhaps against Manafort and Podesta. No collusion has been proven against Trump---and there won't be any despite your wet dreams and nocturnal emissions.

 

[Midnightrider]

Collusion was proven against Hillary. Perhaps against Manafort and Podesta. No collusion has been proven against Trump---and there won't be any despite your wet dreams and nocturnal emissions.

Well there you have it. Collusion by trumps campaign manager was proven.
Where is the proof that Hillary colluded? I want to believe it and see it proven, but so far there is no direct link to her. Same goes for trump. It gets right next to him at this point, but so far no direct link to him.
Investigate them all and prosecute the criminals, on both sides

 

[Sapidus]

Why do you continue to argue with this person.

You know that he is biased beyond all reason. Insane actually.
Other than being amusing to a point, his posts are a total waste.

Now that is the pot calling the kettle black. If anyone around here is biased it is you not to mention racist and psychotic

 

[SamSpade]

Well there you have it. Collusion by trumps campaign manager was proven.

It was?

 

[Bird Dog]

Now that is the pot calling the kettle black.

.......now, that's racist

 

[GURPS]

It was?

In His Mind.

 

[Hijinx]

now that is the pot calling the kettle black. If anyone around here is biased it is you not to mention racist and psychotic

lol

 

[PsyOps]

read papas guilty plea again. He clearly admits arranging meetings with the Russians and getting those approved by campaign management. That is abundantly clear evidence of collusion. As for the illegal parts, some of them have been described in the charging documents and the rest you will just have to wait for. Mueller is investigating it.


That bolded part is where you changed the bar this time. It’s no surprise as the collusion has been proven in two seperate instance now.

I haven't changed the bar on anything. Collusion to affect the outcome of the election was the reason for the investigation in the first place. But, collusion between Papa and the Russians, yes. There is no evidence presented that shows Trump colluded at all. But, where is the attempt by Papa collude in order to affect the outcome of the election?

The whole premise of a criminal investigation is that a crime was committed. No crime of collusion has been shown, even remotely, with Trump; or anyone else for that matter. And there won't be; because there is no statute for "collusion".