For the Impeachment of Dixie.

[yeoman]

In the House of Representatives, Tuesday 15, 2008 [[sub]Watch video here[/sub]]
BEGIN IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS ON RESOLUTION OF IMPEACHMENT OF VICE PRESIDENT

The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the gentleman from Florida (Mr. WEXLER) is recognized for 5 minutes.


Mr. WEXLER. Madam Speaker, on November 7, 2007, this House voted to refer Congressman KUCINICH’s resolution of impeachment of Vice President CHENEY to the House Judiciary Committee.

As a member of the Judiciary Committee, I now ask that we immediately begin impeachment hearings.

The issues at hand are far too serious to ignore.

DICK CHENEY faces credible allegations of abuse of power that if proven may well constitute high crimes and misdemeanors.

Did the Vice President manipulate intelligence to push this Nation into war based on false pretense?

Did the Vice President unmask a covert CIA agent for political purposes?

Did the Vice President order the illegal surveillance of Americans and the illegal use of torture?​

These questions must be answered.


JUST RECENTLY,

former White House Press Secretary SCOTT McCLEllAND revealed that the Vice President and his staff purposely gave him false information to report to the American people, a clear obstruction of justice.

This administration has undermined the checks and balances of our government by brazenly ignoring congressional subpoenas and recklessly claiming executive privilege.​

Impeachment hearings are the only way to force the Bush administration to answer questions and tell the truth.

Congress must take the first step by enforcing the subpoenas against Harriet Miers and the President’s Chief of Staff and hold them in contempt of Congress.

In this time, at this moment, Congress must stand for the truth.

If we fail to act, history may well judge us complicit in the alleged crimes of Vice President CHENEY.

Madam Speaker, a growing chorus of Americans is calling for accountability.

The response from Congress thus far has been silence and denial.​

ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER] PRO TEMPORE

The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Florida is reminded to refrain from personal references toward the Vice President.



Mr. . Madam Speaker, not long ago I launched a Web site in support of my call for hearings.

The people responded en masse.

After only 4 weeks, over 189,000 Americans have registered their support for hearings, names I now hold in my hand.​

These frustrated and patriotic Americans come from all 50 States and share one common goal: accountability for the Bush-Cheney administration and a rebirth of Congress as an equal branch of government.

So many have been working on this cause before me. Groups like

Democrats. com,
AfterDowningStreet.org,
CodePink, ImpeachBush.org,
Impeach for Peace
and others.​

All told, there have been well over 1 million signatures urging us to take action.

Tomorrow,

I will deliver these names to my colleagues on the Judiciary Committee with a letter to my friend Chairman CONYERS calling for hearings.

I will ask my colleagues to sign this letter. In addition, tomorrow, and continuing every day for months, I will publish in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD several thousand names of supporters who have signed up.

History demands that we take action, because the case against Vice President CHENEY is far stronger than the illegalities surrounding Watergate.​

When compared to the partisan and petty allegations made against President Clinton by Ken Starr and the GOP Congress, the true gravity of the case against the Vice President appears in its devastating clarity.


In fact, in the history of our Nation, we have never encountered a moment where the actions of a President or a Vice President have more strongly demanded the use of the power of impeachment.

I have heard the arguments that it is too late, that we have run out of time, and that we don’t have the votes.

While today there may not be enough votes to impeach, it is premature to think that such support would not exist after hearings.

Let us remember that it wasn’t until after hearings began that the Watergate tapes emerged.

Who knows what facts will comfort when the full truth is told in this case?​

Arguing that it is too late, signals future administrations that in the waning months in office they are immune from constitutional accountability.

Hold hearings, which will put the evidence on the table, and the evidence alone, must determine the outcome.

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Down with Dick 'Brick in the Wall' Cheney!​

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SOURCE: page H8 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—HOUSE January 15, 2008, BEGIN IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS ON RESOLUTION OF IMPEACHMENT OF VICE PRESIDENT -- (House of Representatives - January 15, 2008), [Page: H8] General Printing Office's PDF

 

[ImnoMensa]

Hard to believe these whack-offs got elected to Congress.

 

[MMDad]

Impeachment hearings are the only way to force the Bush administration to answer questions and tell the truth.

Too bad these elected representatives don't actually know what their powers are:

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Impeachment isn't an investigative tool. It is not a means to gather evidence. These bozos need a high school govenrment course so they can learn the basics.

 

[Hessian]

History DEMANDS...

That the congress investigate Cold cash Jefferson,
Investigate multiple charges against Sen H Clinton for election fundraising abuses and ties to China.
Investigate Al Gore's funny $$ from the Buddhist Temple.
Investigate the bizarre findings of the Vince Foster "Suicide."

This could go on and on.
One thing is certain: If congress gets wrapped up in hearings & testimony and investigations:
They won't have time to "Fix" Social Security...our Border Crisis, or even raise taxes on us...so: Please...find something more productive to do you IDIOTS!

 

[yeoman]

agreed, and an indication of the desparate nature of the condition of the people, which becomes more apperant with each passing day beneath the corporate banner now raised, in piracy of the privilege of natural right.

 

[This_person]

agreed, and an indication of the desparate nature of the condition of the people, which becomes more apperant with each passing day beneath the corporate banner now raised, in piracy of the privilege of natural right.

Can you restate that coherently?

 

[yeoman]

are you literate to the reality since 1886, and the upshot of Civil War, which is the thinking of SCOTUS since 'Central Rail v California', based as it was upon Marshall in 'Dartmouth'? Do you not appreciate the reality of why Jim Crow rose upon the back of the Fourteenth Amendment? If so, sit and learn your SCOTUS, grasshopper.

 

[This_person]

are you literate to the reality since 1886, and the upshot of Civil War, which is the thinking of SCOTUS since 'Central Rail v California', based as it was upon Marshall in 'Dartmouth'? Do you not appreciate the reality of why Jim Crow rose upon the back of the Fourteenth Amendment? If so, sit and learn your SCOTUS, grasshopper.

Ah, Fred. You found a new name so people would talk with you.

Never mind.

 

[yeoman]

a presumption,unverified, is a terribly foolish choice.

 

[yeoman]

Actually, an impeachment is precisely the answering of questions related to high crimes and misdeamenors. Then again, as well, an impeachment should be about high crimes and misdemeanors, but not simply about this or that violation of parking, be it physical or moral.

 

[cwo_ghwebb]

From Glenn Reynolds:

IMPEACH CHENEY IF YOU WANT, but do bear in mind that he’ll preside over his own impeachment trial.
No, really. The Senate has the sole power to try impeachments. The Vice President is the President of the Senate. He presides. The Constitution provides for only one exception in cases of impeachment: “When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside.” That’s because of the obvious conflict-of-interest of having the VP preside when the President is tried. But there’s no similar provision for having someone else preside if the Vice President is impeached.

 

[cwo_ghwebb]

:crickets:

 

[yeoman]

:crickets:

rather presumptuously faithless, and premature that you are,

There has never been an impeachment of the president of the Senate, and this is not what would be impeached, it is true. On the other hand, that justice cannot be sought against a vice president was never in the mind of the Founders. Similarly, and given the unforeseeable, that the accused would stand in judgement of himself, in mockery of Justice, was never continenced by the Founders, who instead wrote in terms of the principles of Justice.

Therefore, given such a need to acquire Justice, and seeming to lack precedent and procedure, we reasonabley look to precedent. For instance in Utah, "In case of the death of the Governor, impeachment, removal from office, resignation, or disability to discharge the duties of the office, or in case of a Governor-elect who fails to take office, the powers and duties of the Governor shall devolve upon the Lieutenant Governor until the disability ceases or until the next general election, when the vacancy shall be filled by election."

The principle employed is called the "order of succession', and the president of the Senate of the United States is subject to succession, including for cause, and such a cause encompasses the possibility of impeachment.

It is preposterous to raise such a procedural complaint, and claim it possesses no remedy under law, practice or precedent, in principle if not by accustomed practice. Justice was continenced in the creation of the Constitution, and that none remain above its laws.

 

[cwo_ghwebb]

rather presumptuously faithless, and premature that you are,

There has never been an impeachment of the president of the Senate, and this is not what would be impeached, it is true. On the other hand, that justice cannot be sought against a vice president was never in the mind of the Founders. Similarly, and given the unforeseeable, that the accused would stand in judgement of himself, in mockery of Justice, was never continenced by the Founders, who instead wrote in terms of the principles of Justice.

Therefore, given such a need to acquire Justice, and seeming to lack precedent and procedure, we reasonabley look to precedent. For instance in Utah, "In case of the death of the Governor, impeachment, removal from office, resignation, or disability to discharge the duties of the office, or in case of a Governor-elect who fails to take office, the powers and duties of the Governor shall devolve upon the Lieutenant Governor until the disability ceases or until the next general election, when the vacancy shall be filled by election."

The principle employed is called the "order of succession', and the president of the Senate of the United States is subject to succession, including for cause, and such a cause encompasses the possibility of impeachment.

It is preposterous to raise such a procedural complaint, and claim it possesses no remedy under law, practice or precedent, in principle if not by accustomed practice. Justice was continenced in the creation of the Constitution, and that none remain above its laws.

First: the procedure for impeachment is called 'law'. The precedent of a state law does not preempt the Constitution, no matter how much you may wish it may be so. Since the Constitution does define the procedures for impeachment, one can't ignore it because it doesn't meet one's desires.
Second: the order of succession is indeed outlined in the Constitution, a document I recommend you read as you seem unfamiliar with its contents. Read it several times so you may comprehend the document.
Third: quit being such a pompous azz. Most here are just as educated and don't put on airs. Folks here are judged by the content of their argument, not the phraseology they wish to employ to get that content across to their fellow forumites. I for one, no longer wish to deal with azzes such as yourself and fortunately I got the iggy button! Bye!

 

[yeoman]

Well then iggy, it pleases me to inform you we are entirely in agreement regarding our suitability to keep one another’s company, if only for my misfortune at proving unable to change my voice for your sake. As for your reformulation of the points more thoroughly made, you appear quite willing to ignore the frequency with which comparable models are used to solve some conundrum at law, and that such modeling frequently reduces an apparently insoluble conundrum to a fine solution. In the end, the president of vice in the senate can be tried, and with justice, with a capital j. With any Justice, he will stand to the substantial charges listed at the top of this thread. But he will not stand in judgement of his own acts, this much would be clear to the simplest mind, if not evident to the most bloated.

Buh by bee.

Luv ya
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