FOREVER CHEMICALS

3CATSAILOR

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ANNAPOLIS, Md. – “Forever chemicals” are showing up almost everywhere they have looked for it.

It seems it is in crabs and fish now.

I will not crab or fish in any tidal water of this State or any other State near Maryland. That is not to say that there is not a problem in other State tidal waters as well. Or, even overseas fish for that matter. Look at Japan, their fish is beleived to be "radioactive" by some people. Could radioactive fish be shipped to a market or restuarant near you? Hopefully not. I used to love crabbing. I used to love fishing. Eating or catching crabs or fish has become dangerous. To start out with, the crab or fish that you catch could have been in contaminated water with Vibro Vulnificus on the shell of a crab or the pot the crab is in. If you pull it up and either the crab, fish or the crab pot itself cuts your skin and makes you bleed and if the Vibro is present, you can have a potential life threatening condition. Dr. Rita Calwell from the University of Maryland gave a very good lecture about it at the Calvert Marine Museum years ago. She was up in the years then. However, she designated two local experts about Vibro Vulnificus that are qualified to lecture and write about it as well. I know Vibro typically isn't around this time of year though. But, the Forever Chemicals are.:

Are pesticides forever chemicals?

WASHINGTON – More than 1,400 pesticides contain active ingredients that meet Maine's definition for the toxic “forever chemicals” known as PFAS, according to a new analysis of data from the state by Environmental Working Group researchers.Jun 6, 2023


However, it is widely used in cooking and many other products as well.


Bio-solid fertilizer application is another potential source of PFAS contamination in Agriculture. Bio-solids are typically the composted waste from human sewage treatment plants. The PFAS bio-accumulates in the sewage treatment system and follows the bio-solid fertilizer product to farm fields where it is applied.

This is from a simple on line search. There a lot of information out there about it. PFAS is far more wide spread than people know. Again, it is not just the crabs and fish. But, continuing to use it and other dangerious chemicals on our farm fields isn't helping us. And what do you think or legislators say about it? Good question.


The first I heard about this story was from a reporter with the Chesapeake Journal. . Now the "Forever Chemicals" are far more widespread than first thought. It seems to be everywhere. I now wonder if any seafood is safe.

In particular, look at the law which allows farmers to farm their fields so very close to our tidal waters. I heard within 50 feet. It could be closer. We have legislators to thank for stupid laws. What can be done about it? That's a good question. The first step is NOT to allow any farm to put down chemicals on their fields that are so close to any tidal water. Do I think this wouild "ever" happen? Of course not.
 
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3CATSAILOR

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Don't forget that oysters filter the water.
Good Grief! That;s a good point. I sure did forget about it. And according to the lecture by Dr. Colwell, they also can have vibro. So long as you cook the oysters and not eat them raw you should be protected from the vibrio. But, you would not be protected from the Forever Chemicals. So, you are right! YIKES!
 
Watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devil_We_Know and this part will make you realize we are all already compromised and even babies are born with impure blood.

This part right here summed it up:


The documentary touches on the detection of PFOA in the blood of more than 98% of the general US population in the low and sub-parts per billion (ppb) range, with levels much higher in chemical plant employees and surrounding subpopulations. The only samples clean of PFOA were found in US Army blood samples taken at the beginning of the Korean War in 1950.
 

3CATSAILOR

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Watch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devil_We_Know and this part will make you realize we are all already compromised and even babies are born with impure blood.

This part right here summed it up:


The documentary touches on the detection of PFOA in the blood of more than 98% of the general US population in the low and sub-parts per billion (ppb) range, with levels much higher in chemical plant employees and surrounding subpopulations. The only samples clean of PFOA were found in US Army blood samples taken at the beginning of the Korean War in 1950.
It doesn't sound good.
 
In particular, look at the law which allows farmers to farm their fields so very close to our tidal waters. I heard within 50 feet. It could be closer. We have legislators to thank for stupid laws. What can be done about it? That's a good question. The first step is NOT to allow any farm to put down chemicals on their fields that are so close to any tidal water. Do I think this wouild "ever" happen? Of course not.
It's already leaching into our water table.

And for those who have lived around the farming communities can remember within our lifetime, the farmers tilling the soil between crops. Then one year..... BOOM! We began to notice all the crop fields turning brown, then new crops growing amongst the dead. Yep, government not only authorized, but mandated farmers switch to the formula commercially known as 'Round Up'. All the poisoned corn, wheat, rye, soybeans, etc. are now what we consume daily.
 
It doesn't sound good.
It is not good. Watch the documentary. Not only did the big industries get a slap on the hand, but they were allowed to develop and market modified compounds, and we are made up of those new forever chemicals as well.
 

Gilligan

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It's already leaching into our water table.

And for those who have lived around the farming communities can remember within our lifetime, the farmers tilling the soil between crops. Then one year..... BOOM! We began to notice all the crop fields turning brown, then new crops growing amongst the dead. Yep, government not only authorized, but mandated farmers switch to the formula commercially known as 'Round Up'. All the poisoned corn, wheat, rye, soybeans, etc. are now what we consume daily.
You shoulda seen what we used back in my day for that...Paraquat CL, and lots of it. ;-)
 

PrchJrkr

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At my age, I'll take a chance on the chemicals. If I had to give up eating hard crabs and/or perch filets, I'd just as soon die.
 

Gilligan

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Circa 1970 MD Tale

Gummint: Stop plowing your fields to plant corn. Switch to no-till methods instead.
Farmers: OK. But how does that work?
Gummint: Spray a powerful herbicide like Paraquat over the vegetation and drill through that to plant your corn.
Farmers: Dang...needs a lot more fertilizer
Gummint: Apply lots of liquid high-nitrogen fertilizer ...you can even mix the Paraquat in that and kill 10 birds with one stone.
Farmers: Cool. But that chit is expensive and it takes a lot to grow corn!
Gummint: Tell ya what: We'll authorize/encourage the use/spreading of processed human waste from sewage treatment plants and we'll even offer you cheap loans to buy the special application machines for that.
Farmers: More cool.
Mother Nature: Ahma gonna rain a bunch and wash all that chit in to the Chesapeake Bay
Chesapeake Bay: Argghhhh....I'm dyin'....
The End.
 
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