Gay & new to southern Maryland

[BuddyLee]

Wait a minute; isn't the military hit up hard for souls as it is? If some gay man/woman wants to serve his/her country, I certainly don't have a problem with it. So, what is the problem? Are we going to be so anal (no pun intended) as to not include a particular group in our military. In the Civil War, the North gained much ground by using black troops; the South didn't do this until they had to, you know the end of that story. I often wonder what it will have to come to for Americans to protect America without red tape and ridicule.

 

[RoseRed]

I was baptized as a Lutheran and married in the Catholic Church and never have attended Church on a regular basis, with the exception of a few Sunday School classes as a young child.

I have friends and family that are gay and I don't have a problem with what THEY do, as long as it doesn't infringe upon me, i.e. hit on me.

Am I going to Hell?

 

[Star]

Wait a minute; isn't the military hit up hard for souls as it is? If some gay man/woman wants to serve his/her country, I certainly don't have a problem with it. So, what is the problem? Are we going to be so anal (no pun intended) as to not include a particular group in our military. In the Civil War, the North gained much ground by using black troops; the South didn't do this until they had to, you know the end of that story. I often wonder what it will have to come to for Americans to protect America without red tape and ridicule.

I dont see what the big deal is with gay people in the military. They would have to be stupid to hit on another military guy that they know wasnt gay, they would get the beat down so quick they wouldnt even have time to apologize and say they were drunk. :shrug: I think part of it though, least what i had heard, is that the hetero men, feel uncomfortable in showers, beds, etc etc, with gay men because they always feel like they are being "checked out".

 

[Christy]

Steve is bi..!

No Steve has a wife with many gay friends. Stop trying to hit on my husband.

 

[RoseRed]

Well, if the person is in the closet, it is seen as a security risk since that person could be a prime target for blackmail. This is not limited to gays, but rather anyone that has an identifiable trait that could be exploited by the enemy.

I do have to agree with this statement.

 

[RoseRed]

Very true. Blackmail is of prime importance in light of National Security. Best not to have any secrets when you have a clearance.

For some yes, but overall I'd have to disagree with this one. Many militaries do not segregate based on sexual orientation, and they've experienced no problems. Israel is a prime example of one.

Sexual orientation is of lesser importance IMHO than cultural upbringing. Inner city recruits and "redneck" recruits constantly butted heads in BT and in Tech ("A") School. One of the earliest lessons for a recruit in any service is to teach that we are all Americans first and foremost, on the same team. It takes some longer than others to accept that fact.

This is probably one of the biggest stereotypes that gay people face and they probably simply laugh at it. Just because someone is gay does not mean they walk around lusting after anyone any more than heterosexual people do. It's called "self-control". Completely heterosexual men constantly talk about women in the workplace once they find themselves in a "safe zone" where they can, i.e. around other guys. Women do the same thing. It's called biology. ALL the gay men I have ever known never chased me around, crazy with lust.

 

[Christy]

That was almost as funny as your first post, but dont be surprised if you get a from Vrai.

Being gay doesnt bother me, but I would rather be kept in the dark when it comes to details of a gay dudes sex life

I'd like to be in the dark about most people's sex life in here, gay or straight, unfortunately, the vast majority of forumites don't give me that luxury.

 

[supersurfer]

This is probably one of the biggest stereotypes that gay people face and they probably simply laugh at it. Just because someone is gay does not mean they walk around lusting after anyone any more than heterosexual people do. It's called "self-control". Completely heterosexual men constantly talk about women in the workplace once they find themselves in a "safe zone" where they can, i.e. around other guys. Women do the same thing. It's called biology. ALL the gay men I have ever known never chased me around, crazy with lust.

I don't know about you Stevo, but if I got to shower with women on a daily basis back in the military, I would be a happy man. I think most men [straight men] would damn sure be lusting. Why would it be any different for a gay showering with the same sex that they are attracted to?

Maybe the military can open up to gays and have them shower with the opposite sex. I would go back in and tell them I'm gay for that.

 

[BuddyLee]

I think part of it though, least what i had heard, is that the hetero men, feel uncomfortable in showers, beds, etc etc, with gay men because they always feel like they are being "checked out".

That sounds like a personal problem.

 

[Christy]

ALL the gay men I have ever known never chased me around, crazy with lust.

Liar! I seem to remember a time many years ago you running to me for protection from my gay friends who all thought you were delish!

:trauma:

 

[RoseRed]

I don't know about you Stevo, but if I got to shower with women on a daily basis back in the military, I would be a happy man. I think most men [straight men] would damn sure be lusting. Why would it be any different for a gay showering with the same sex that they are attracted to?

Maybe the military can open up to gays and have them shower with the opposite sex. I would go back in and tell them I'm gay for that.

I have never been in the military. That being siad... I thought one of the things they teach you is self control and respect.

Am I wrong? Anyone...

 

[Star]

That sounds like a personal problem.

right, and i would agree with that, but the way things work in this country is that the few, speak for the many and usually get what they want. Most men, who are comfortable with their sexuality, arent paranoid enough to think some gay guy is checking them out all the time, or, wouldnt care if they were, as long as they DIDNT make any advances, and some, even if they did, would politely say "my rear says 'exit only', but thanks for the offer, dude"

 

[Christy]

I don't know about you Stevo, but if I got to shower with women on a daily basis back in the military, I would be a happy man. I think most men [straight men] would damn sure be lusting. Why would it be any different for a gay showering with the same sex that they are attracted to?

Maybe the military can open up to gays and have them shower with the opposite sex. I would go back in and tell them I'm gay for that.

Because Gay men like Gay men, they've got the GAYDAR!!!!! Straight men don't do it for them. DUH! :talktothehand:

 

[Christy]

I don't know about you Stevo, but if I got to shower with women on a daily basis back in the military, I would be a happy man. I think most men [straight men] would damn sure be lusting. Why would it be any different for a gay showering with the same sex that they are attracted to?

Maybe the military can open up to gays and have them shower with the opposite sex. I would go back in and tell them I'm gay for that.

Oh and are you THAT hot in the shower? If so, come to Christy.

 

[RoseRed]

Liar! I seem to remember a time many years ago you running to me for protection from my gay friends who all thought you were delish!

:trauma:

Spill sista...

 

[supersurfer]

Oh and are you THAT hot in the shower? If so, come to Christy.

Only when I'm taking a hot shower.

 

[BuddyLee]

right, and i would agree with that, but the way things work in this country is that the few, speak for the many and usually get what they want. Most men, who are comfortable with their sexuality, arent paranoid enough to think some gay guy is checking them out all the time, or, wouldnt care if they were, as long as they DIDNT make any advances, and some, even if they did, would politely say "my rear says 'exit only', but thanks for the offer, dude"

There is a distinct difference between a homophobe who looks over his shoulder ever chance he can get and an actual 'problem'. I'm no expert but I bet there are more homophobe's than actual problems. I'm also sure those problems are corrected shortly thereafter.

Another group that cannot get into the military would be suicidal individuals. In the heat of battle, would you rather have a gay man by your side or someone ready to commit suicide?

 

[Christy]

Spill sista...

I had two gay friends that Steve knew of and was cool with, soooo, I threw a party, that essentially turned out to be all gay men except for Steve. They were all giving him the what for as far as comments to me "oooh, he's so handsome" "don't he look good". I will never forget Steve rounding me up to stay close by him and telling me EXACTLY "I feel like such a piece of meat, now I know what it feels like to be a woman ogled by a pack of men".

 

[BuddyLee]

I had two gay friends that Steve knew of and was cool with, soooo, I threw a party, that essentially turned out to be all gay men except for Steve. They were all giving him the what for as far as comments to me "oooh, he's so handsome" "don't he look good". I will never forget Steve rounding me up to stay close by him and telling me EXACTLY "I feel like such a piece of meat, now I know what it feels like to be a woman ogled by a pack of men".

Camcorder moment!

 

[harleygirl]

I had two gay friends that Steve knew of and was cool with, soooo, I threw a party, that essentially turned out to be all gay men except for Steve. They were all giving him the what for as far as comments to me "oooh, he's so handsome" "don't he look good". I will never forget Steve rounding me up to stay close by him and telling me EXACTLY "I feel like such a piece of meat, now I know what it feels like to be a woman ogled by a pack of men".

I love it!! The tables turned!!!