seekeroftruth
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Genesis 3:Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”
10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”
11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”
12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”
The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,
“Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush[b] your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush[b] your head,
and you will strike his heel.”
16 To the woman he said,
“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”
17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”
21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side[e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life
a. Genesis 3:15 Or seedb. Genesis 3:15 Or strike
c. Genesis 3:20 Or The man
d. Genesis 3:20 Eve probably means living.
e. Genesis 3:24 Or placed in front
The commentary I was using for the Quran just would not work this morning.... I spent half an hour on it.
On top of that... the bible gateway site I use to use has upgraded and I'll have to learn to navigate it.
So I figure maybe, since I did find that part, we should do topic searches. This one is about the eating of the apple.
I always wondered where Adam was while Eve was being seduced. Men are supposed to be the leaders in the Bible. Why didn't Adam guide Eve away from the tree? Was it because Adam was drawn in too but let Eve take the blame? Eve was supposed to be a helper for Adam. Did she "help" him find the tree and "help" him pick the fruit? Wasn't she doing what she was created to do? Isn't it up to the leader to stop the helpers from harming themselves and others? In verse 6, Adam was with her the whole time.
Now that gives me a Disney concept to add to the story. Can't you see Eve walking with Adam, talking to the animals. The little bunnies and deer might have gathered around them as they walked.... maybe a robin circled and sang for them.... and then when they got near the "apple" tree..... the serpent slithered through the branches of the "apple" tree. How precious!
I've talked about sitting in Mr. Whipple's apple trees and talking about angels and miracles with my friends, when I was a kid in Gales Ferry, Conn. Now I see one of Mr. Whipple's apple trees, with a serpent sliding through the branches and Eve walked up and started talking to the snake. If God told them not to talk to the serpents in the Garden..... would they have taken the "apple"?
Why did she embellish what God told them? Did she really embellish what God told them? We weren't there.... the guy who wrote this wasn't there.... we really don't know what happened.... right? Maybe God really did tell them.... "don't eat it.... don't even touch it...." we don't really know. She may have been just being straight with that crooked snake curled around the tree limb. I mean, Adam and Eve did have choices. The snake was just a great salesman.
I don't want to embellish the Bible or the Quran..... I have a lot more experience with the Bible. I'm not as likely to miss the serpent if I stay in my part of the Garden and leave the serpent to it's own tree.
Better the serpent I know....
