GOP 'playing chicken' with the economy.....

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"President Barack Obama on Wednesday accused congressional Republicans of “playing chicken” with the economy over Planned Parenthood.

Speaking before about 100 members of the Business Roundtable just blocks from the Capitol, Obama said Republicans would be jeopardizing not just the United States but also global markets if their insistence on eliminating funding to Planned Parenthood leads to a government shutdown.

“Democrats are ready to sit down and negotiate with Republicans, right now, today, as we speak. But it should be over legitimate questions of spending and revenue, not over unrelated ideological issues,” Obama said.

He compared the current funding impasse to the 15-day shutdown in 2013 born of a tea party-backed bid to repeal Obamacare.

“That’s not good sense and it’s not good business,” Obama said, decrying “the notion that we play chicken with an $18 trillion economy and global markets that are already skittish, all because of an issue around a women’s health provider that receives 20 cents out of every thousand dollars in the federal budget.”

Obama said avoiding a shutdown would be a “good start,” and he called on Congress to go further by reversing sequestration.

“Keep in mind that we can afford it right now,” he said, repeatedly noting that the deficit has shrunk by two-thirds since he took office." ".....


 

Gilligan

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Obama said avoiding a shutdown would be a “good start,” and he called on Congress to go further by reversing sequestration.

Wait...what?? "Sequestration" was the Magic Kenyan's own invention! I don't get it.
 

Peepaw95

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If planned Parenthood is not worth shutting down the government over, why don't the Dems take it off the table?
 

Hijinx

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If planned Parenthood is not worth shutting down the government over, why don't the Dems take it off the table?

Well Tht's the question. If Planned Parenthood isn't worth shutting down the Government for, why is it the Dems would shut it down.
And why would Republicans take the blame.
 

Restitution

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Does any of this really matter? The first order of business in Congress in the event of a shutdown/sequestration would be to exempt themselves from it...
 
Why do we need Planned Parenthood when we have ObamaCare?

Why do we need a health care provider when we have ObamaCare? I suppose we could always ask why we need particular health care providers when we have other ones (why do we need this hospital when we have that one, why do we need this clinic when we have that one, why do we need this doctor when we have that one). But even if more people have health care coverage (indeed, even if everyone has health care coverage), we still need health care providers to provide the health care that the coverage pays for. Some people have coverage, e.g., through Medicaid - even more do now with the implementation of ObamaCare - but they still have to get health care services (paid from by Medicaid) from somewhere. Planned Parenthood clinics are among the somewheres.
 
If planned Parenthood is not worth shutting down the government over, why don't the Dems take it off the table?

What do you mean by take it off the table? It is (some) Republicans that want to combine a defunding of Planned Parenthood with providing the normal funding needed to keep the government operating (i.e. so that we don't have a shut down). Most of the funding that Planned Parenthood clinics receive from the federal government (directly or indirectly) comes from Medicaid payments made on behalf of Medicaid beneficiaries that get covered health care services from those clinics. That funding already exists in law. It doesn't need to be appropriated annually. Not passing this year's appropriations won't cut it off. So some Republicans want to attach a defunding of Planned Parenthood (not just not give them additional funds, though there is a smaller issue relating to that which we can get into if you want) to passing new funding for other things - funding needed to keep the government functioning.

Democrats would be happy to take the Planned Parenthood issue off of the table and, if Republicans insist, take it up separately. Even the small amount of new funding that would in effect be included in the new appropriations they'd be passing isn't designated as being for Planned Parenthood. Some Planned Parenthood clinics just qualify for it as other health care providers do, because it does what the program that money is set aside for requires - basically, provides certain women's health care services to people who might not otherwise be able to afford them and seemingly keeps the program through which it does that separate from the rest of its operations in accordance with current federal regulations. If Republicans want to cancel those kinds of programs, so be it. That probably would get some push back from Democrats (and specifically excluding Planned Parenthood from participating in such programs would certainly get push back from Democrats - for good reason). But some Republicans want to do far more than that, they want a full defunding of Planned Parenthood. That's what they tried to get not too long ago and what they're threatening to try to do again - this time attaching it to the annual funding for normal government operations.
 
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"President Barack Obama on Wednesday accused congressional Republicans of “playing chicken” with the economy over Planned Parenthood.

Speaking before about 100 members of the Business Roundtable just blocks from the Capitol, Obama said Republicans would be jeopardizing not just the United States but also global markets if their insistence on eliminating funding to Planned Parenthood leads to a government shutdown.

“Democrats are ready to sit down and negotiate with Republicans, right now, today, as we speak. But it should be over legitimate questions of spending and revenue, not over unrelated ideological issues,” Obama said.

He compared the current funding impasse to the 15-day shutdown in 2013 born of a tea party-backed bid to repeal Obamacare.

“That’s not good sense and it’s not good business,” Obama said, decrying “the notion that we play chicken with an $18 trillion economy and global markets that are already skittish, all because of an issue around a women’s health provider that receives 20 cents out of every thousand dollars in the federal budget.”

Obama said avoiding a shutdown would be a “good start,” and he called on Congress to go further by reversing sequestration.

“Keep in mind that we can afford it right now,” he said, repeatedly noting that the deficit has shrunk by two-thirds since he took office." ".....



As they've proved in the past, the GOP doesn't learn from their mistakes. They double down on them. This is why they were admonished for being the "party of stupid" by Republican presidential candidate Go. Bobby Jindal three years ago. If there is a government shutdown, the majority of voter blame will be once again leveled at the GOP.
 
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