Governor Ron DeSantis

[PJay]

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

Governor Ron DeSantis Saves Christmas!

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is saving Christmas joy for the blessed children of the land. Desantis said last week that his state’s seaports can help alleviate America’s ongoing supply chain crisis, offering them as an alternative to the ports in California that are screwed up because of...

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[vraiblonde]

See, I don't want him to be too awesome because then everyone will pester him to run for President, and I like him right where he is.

 

[HemiHauler]

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus.

Governor Ron DeSantis Saves Christmas!

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is saving Christmas joy for the blessed children of the land. Desantis said last week that his state’s seaports can help alleviate America’s ongoing supply chain crisis, offering them as an alternative to the ports in California that are screwed up because of...

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Except for the fact that the Panama Canal has size and weight restrictions, and there likely aren't many big container ships from Asia that meet those requirements. Did he go on to explain that?

 

[UglyBear]

Except for the fact that the Panama Canal has size and weight restrictions, and there likely aren't many big container ships from Asia that meet those requirements. Did he go on to explain that?

Panama Canal does have restrictions, and they have recently upgraded the canal to handle new, bigger ships.

Panama Canal expansion project - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do you have any data on how many ships stuck outside of LA are above that new capacity?

If not, you are just hand waving and spewing spittle.

 

[RoseRed]

Panama Canal does have restrictions, and they have recently upgraded the canal to handle new, bigger ships.

Panama Canal expansion project - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do you have any data on how many ships stuck outside of LA are above that new capacity?

If not, you are just hand waving and spewing spittle.

Panama Canal stays pretty stacked up on its own. I've seen it myself a couple of times.

 

[HemiHauler]

Panama Canal does have restrictions, and they have recently upgraded the canal to handle new, bigger ships.

Panama Canal expansion project - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do you have any data on how many ships stuck outside of LA are above that new capacity?

If not, you are just hand waving and spewing spittle.

Neopanamax limit is 14,000 TEU. An impressive amount of cargo to be sure, but the ones that run our precious Christmas loot from Asia to the U.S. are typically 18,000 and above.

 

[GURPS]

If not, you are just hand waving and spewing spittle.

Well that is Black Francis after all

 

[CPUSA]

Neopanamax limit is 14,000 TEU. An impressive amount of cargo to be sure, but the ones that run our precious Christmas loot from Asia to the U.S. are typically 18,000 and above.

STFU you vile POS!!
You're spewing stuff that you have NO CLUE about, so go back to de scaling your mom's crusty feet...

 

[vraiblonde]

Neopanamax limit is 14,000 TEU. An impressive amount of cargo to be sure, but the ones that run our precious Christmas loot from Asia to the U.S. are typically 18,000 and above.

Is this where I urge everyone to "BUY LOCAL, BUY AMERICAN"?

 

[HemiHauler]

Is this where I urge everyone to "BUY LOCAL, BUY AMERICAN"?

Covered ground.

It's a good catch phrase, but by and large those who constantly repeat it don't actually do it because it's expensive to buy American-made goods over their elsewhere-made alternatives. I buy American-made clothing where I can. My basic cotton tee shirts are $40. These aren't couture, they're not much more than a Hanes Beefy Tee. Sure, there are likely American-made alternatives slightly less expensive, so no need to go searching and tell me I'm overpaying. American-made is more expensive than their made elsewhere counterparts. It's just simple economics.

Be honest: what do you go out of your way to purchase that's made in America over their made elsewhere counterparts? "Assembled in America" doesn't count. I'm talking American-made, 100% resourced from here.

 

[black dog]

Covered ground.

It's a good catch phrase, but by and large those who constantly repeat it don't actually do it because it's expensive to buy American-made goods over their elsewhere-made alternatives. I buy American-made clothing where I can. My basic cotton tee shirts are $40. These aren't couture, they're not much more than a Hanes Beefy Tee. Sure, there are likely American-made alternatives slightly less expensive, so no need to go searching and tell me I'm overpaying. American-made is more expensive than their made elsewhere counterparts. It's just simple economics.

Be honest: what do you go out of your way to purchase that's made in America over their made elsewhere counterparts? "Assembled in America" doesn't count. I'm talking American-made, 100% resourced from here.

40 bucks for an American made T shirt.... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
AllAmericanclothing tee's are 13.95 and add a pocket for 14.95.... Sam Walton weeps for you.

 

[HemiHauler]

40 bucks for an American made T shirt.... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
AllAmericanclothing tee's are 13.95 and add a pocket for 14.95.... Sam Walton weeps for you.

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"Made in USA" - for those prices, no way in hell they are using domestically-raised cotton. No information on their web pages to state that, so safely assume they are getting their materials elsewhere. That's how they fool you.

 

[black dog]

"Made in USA" - for those prices, no way in hell they are using domestically-raised cotton. No information on their web pages to state that, so safely assume they are getting their materials elsewhere. That's how they fool you.

Didnt fool me, I dont care where the iron ore or the plastic injection pellets come from when I buy Made in The USA products.
I put Made in The Usa by Americans labels on everything we build, I dont care if they are built with steel from Canada...
Dont care if my welding machines were built in Sweden and the wire/rod comes from South Carolina.
Americans run them....

 

[PeoplesElbow]

"Made in USA" - for those prices, no way in hell they are using domestically-raised cotton. No information on their web pages to state that, so safely assume they are getting their materials elsewhere. That's how they fool you.

I bet those american farms are using foreign made machinery, foreign produced chemicals etc. Sewing machines are most likely not american produced etc.

Your version of american made 100% is just marketing.

 

[vraiblonde]

Be honest: what do you go out of your way to purchase that's made in America over their made elsewhere counterparts?

Well, food #1. But it's not really local and American either because the farmer who grew it almost certainly has foreign ancestors, making him not 100% American. And he might use machinery that was made in a Chinese sweatshop. And the soil most likely migrated from somewhere else over the millennia.

So you're right. Instead of buying Christmas presents at the local Maker's Market or craft show, people should do without until those ships can get unloaded and trucks can get it to Walmart. Because why on earth would you want to give a unique item when you can hang on a few months and give a belated Chia Pet?

 

[Kyle]

Because why on earth would you want to give a unique item when you can hang on a few months and give a belated Chia Pet?

I heard the Chia Mayorkas is all the rage this year and the Chia Trafficant is making a comeback.

 

[Bare-ya-cuda]

Covered ground.

It's a good catch phrase, but by and large those who constantly repeat it don't actually do it because it's expensive to buy American-made goods over their elsewhere-made alternatives. I buy American-made clothing where I can. My basic cotton tee shirts are $40. These aren't couture, they're not much more than a Hanes Beefy Tee. Sure, there are likely American-made alternatives slightly less expensive, so no need to go searching and tell me I'm overpaying. American-made is more expensive than their made elsewhere counterparts. It's just simple economics.

Be honest: what do you go out of your way to purchase that's made in America over their made elsewhere counterparts? "Assembled in America" doesn't count. I'm talking American-made, 100% resourced from here.

So what product does your wife import? You previously stated you work for your wife’s small import company.

 

[black dog]

So what product does your wife import? You previously stated you work for your wife’s small import company.

#Woops

 

[HemiHauler]

Well, food #1. But it's not really local and American either because the farmer who grew it almost certainly has foreign ancestors, making him not 100% American. And he might use machinery that was made in a Chinese sweatshop. And the soil most likely migrated from somewhere else over the millennia.

So you're right. Instead of buying Christmas presents at the local Maker's Market or craft show, people should do without until those ships can get unloaded and trucks can get it to Walmart. Because why on earth would you want to give a unique item when you can hang on a few months and give a belated Chia Pet?

Well depending on where you buy beef, assuming you consume it, there is a good chance it is sent overseas for processing. Imagine that: cattle raised here, slaughtered here, but put on a boat for processing because of the economics of doing so.

Outside of that, your comments suggest that you understand we are a global economy and the "buy American" catch phrase is just that -- a catch phrase with no real economic or commerce-related meaning.

I do think "buying American" clothes/washing machines/whatever that use imported raw materials, or American grown raw materials that are sent overseas for processing before sent back here for final assembly/manufacture is a cop-out. That's not really "buying American" where there are options that are more American.

But also keep in mind: I'm not the one insisting that everyone "should" buy American. By and large, globalization has been a net positive. It's here to stay and I'm OK with it.

 

[HemiHauler]

So what product does your wife import? You previously stated you work for your wife’s small import company.

She runs a wine import company specializing in Italian and French imports.

Is this some sort of "gotcha"?