Graduated - But, Did They Learn Anything?

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So, we had another class of Seniors graduate. They are now supposed to be prepared for the real life. But, are they? Can they do math problems that are needed to correctly answer in every day life? Can they solive reasonable problems? Better yet, can they "sign", not print their name or use a digital signature? Simple search: Yes, a marriage license in Maryland does require signatures. The applicants must sign the marriage license application, and after the marriage, the spouses and the officiant will also sign the certificates attached to the license. Some States require a signature for a ticket instead of printing your name. Maryland is not one of them. At least 70% of most of your Property Tax bill goes toward education. But, how do you know children are being properly educated before they are promoted to the next grade? Without going to College, is there an "independent" SAT? I heard on the News the other day that many kids do not know their own zip code when they graduate. Probably some do, some don't
 

NorthBeachPerso

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Do you have links or info about this? I'd be interested in reading about this much of our Property Tax going to the schools.
Add that to all the gambling tax that goes to the schools../sarc off
For the first quote, I don't know about the others but Calvert makes a note on its property tax bills that @50% is for schools. I think that's likely pretty much a standard amount most places (keeping in mind that in some states school taxes and general property taxes are levied separately where in Maryland schools are rolled into the County taxes).

For the second, gambling money never "went" to the schools, it was "in place of money". Whatever gambling money went to the schools was just a replacement for money the County would spend elsewhere. Hogan changed that calculus a little bit and dedicated some new money from gambling solely to schools but its still mostly "in place of".
 

vraiblonde

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I saw a meme the other day to the effect of: we used to teach Latin in high school, now we teach remedial English in college.

:dork:

Some schools are still turning out young people ready to be productive adults. None of them are on Reddit or Tik Tok, though, so they're not as visible as their retarded counterparts.
 

OccamsRazor

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For the first quote, I don't know about the others but Calvert makes a note on its property tax bills that @50% is for schools. I think that's likely pretty much a standard amount most places (keeping in mind that in some states school taxes and general property taxes are levied separately where in Maryland schools are rolled into the County taxes).
Just finding it odd because I remember reading an article (don't remember where) that stated St. Mary's County was ranked #4 of 24 counties in Maryland for household income BUT, #20 of 24 for per-student spending.
 

NorthBeachPerso

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Just finding it odd because I remember reading an article (don't remember where) that stated St. Mary's County was ranked #4 of 24 counties in Maryland for household income BUT, #20 of 24 for per-student spending.
Household income doesn't necessarily correlate with property taxes or even per pupil spending. For school spending there are a lot of moving parts from age of the buildings to age of the staff to the number of students who receive various services (SPED, ESL, etc.) plus a couple dozen more.

Keep in mind that when per pupil spending is calculated more than cost of teachers is included. You've got transportation, building maintenance, all levels of Administration, construction, furnishings, electricity, specialty programs (many of which are mandated by either the State or Federal governments), HVAC, bond payments for capital improvements and on and on.
 

Czar

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Is it true that school in SM do not grade?
How the heck do you judge how well a student is doing? There is a whole lot of space between getting by and excelling.
 

black dog

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So, we had another class of Seniors graduate. They are now supposed to be prepared for the real life. But, are they? Can they do math problems that are needed to correctly answer in every day life? Can they solive reasonable problems? Better yet, can they "sign", not print their name or use a digital signature? Simple search: Yes, a marriage license in Maryland does require signatures. The applicants must sign the marriage license application, and after the marriage, the spouses and the officiant will also sign the certificates attached to the license. Some States require a signature for a ticket instead of printing your name. Maryland is not one of them. At least 70% of most of your Property Tax bill goes toward education. But, how do you know children are being properly educated before they are promoted to the next grade? Without going to College, is there an "independent" SAT? I heard on the News the other day that many kids do not know their own zip code when they graduate. Probably some do, some don't
If someone has children that fit your post, one has to look no farther than the worthless parents that failed miserably at being parents.
 

black dog

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I saw a meme the other day to the effect of: we used to teach Latin in high school, now we teach remedial English in college.

:dork:

Some schools are still turning out young people ready to be productive adults. None of them are on Reddit or Tik Tok, though, so they're not as visible as their retarded counterparts.
There was a reason that my son was educated in Md and not Indiana. The schools can do some things, it also requires one or more involved parents as a advocate for there children.
 

NorthBeachPerso

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Is it true that school in SM do not grade?
How the heck do you judge how well a student is doing? There is a whole lot of space between getting by and excelling.
This is the grading scale for high school:

Elementary is apparently transitioning to the system called Standards Based. What that is is the student is rated/graded on his/her mastery of the standards for the various units and disciplines. It's still "grading" but different and is incredibly time consuming for the teacher because of the different methodologies required to be used. You then have to go back and reteach the sections the student has not met standards in until he/she reaches mastery while at the same time teaching the students who have mastered the material and are moving on.
 

LightRoasted

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This is the grading scale for high school:

Elementary is apparently transitioning to the system called Standards Based. What that is is the student is rated/graded on his/her mastery of the standards for the various units and disciplines. It's still "grading" but different and is incredibly time consuming for the teacher because of the different methodologies required to be used. You then have to go back and reteach the sections the student has not met standards in until he/she reaches mastery while at the same time teaching the students who have mastered the material and are moving on.


What happened to "E" as the failing grade? Back in the day that the way it was A B C D E. E is being discriminated against.
 

NorthBeachPerso

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What happened to "E" as the failing grade? Back in the day that the way it was A B C D E. E is being discriminated against.
That depended. "F" was used when I was in school starting in 1960. It depends on the school system and what they choose, or are directed, to use.

Quick Story:
We had a mother come in with her hair on fire and her ass catching (well, Grandma and Auntie came along) when she was notified that her son wasn't graduating. She was wild because he had all Es for three Quarters and she was under the impression that meant "Excellent". Now I had a half dozen documented attempts to contact her (he was taking my class for not the second but the third time, he'd failed it with the other two teachers and was failing it with me) as did the other teachers as well as at least one registered letter from Guidance and in she rolls a week before graduation.
 

TPD

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The teenagers we’ve hired at the store for the last 5 years have not been able to sign their name in cursive, though I’m not sure about the one we hired recently. Most don’t even know what a signature means.
 

NorthBeachPerso

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The teenagers we’ve hired at the store for the last 5 years have not been able to sign their name in cursive, though I’m not sure about the one we hired recently. Most don’t even know what a signature means.
Cursive wasn't taught for about a generation and a half of students. That's now changing but slowly and erratically.

You can blame the now over twenty year emphasis on testing and test scores and the sloughing off of anything that didn't positively impact that. Also don't discount the emphasis on College and Career which has resulted in many things, like Kindergarten Field Day, being cancelled and eliminated.
 

Clem72

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Better yet, can they "sign", not print their name or use a digital signature? Simple search: Yes, a marriage license in Maryland does require signatures. The applicants must sign the marriage license application, and after the marriage, the spouses and the officiant will also sign the certificates attached to the license.
Wait until you find out that there is no requirement for a signature to be in cursive, or be your actual name. Remember those old westerns where they would ask if the guy could read or write, and after he said no they would say "make your mark"? Anything can be a signature.
 
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TPD

the poor dad
Wait until you find out that there is no requirement for a signature to be in cursive, or be your actual name. Remember those old westerns where they would ask if the guy could read or write, and after he said no they would say "make your mark"? Anything can be a signature.
I am a notary public. An ‘X’ is an official signature that I can notarize, as long as I can verify who you are.
 
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