Great Post by u/bryfy77 about who profits from these concentration canps.

[Burnthings]

Edit: This is not my original work. Instead of quoting each paragraph, I'm just going to be lazy and say this up front.


So I decided to do a little research into the $750/day figure I’d heard a private company was charging the US government per each detained migrant child. I wanted to: 1. verify this figure was accurate 2. verify it was indeed a private company instead of a non-profit charging this, as both have managed these detention centers (not that it really matters, ultimately, but stay with me) 3. try to figure out where this per diem sum was going, if not to even buy these tortured children toothbrushes and soap, which are about the cheapest basic necessities on the market, and which no individual has to replace every day.


$750/person A DAY should cover a lot of necessities, right? So where the hell is all this money going? This can’t be true...


Well here’s what I found:


1. Yes, it’s a private company called Comprehensive Health Services (a subsidiary of Caliburn International). CHS operates the largest child migrant detention center, which is in FL and was already receiving horrible press — especially from local FL papers — last year. But that didn’t matter, because CHS recently opened up a few more child prisons in TX, as it snagged a new government contract, despite many documented concerns about conditions in Florida.





2. $750/day per child is an accurate sum of CHS’s CLAIMED operating costs, and what our federal tax dollars are paying for. A sum that was agreed to upon award of the contract. In fact, it was actually on the record as $775 last summer.





3. So where is this money going, you wonder, if not to soap and toothbrushes? Yeah, I did too, and it was quite easy to dig up. CHS, via Caliburn, is controlled by the private equity firm DC Capital Partners. For those of you who don’t know how private equity firms work, look it up.





4. While I would not be able to find out vested shareholders in the DCCP portfolio, we do not have to assume they’re making some nice returns on these CHS operations and government contracts that line their pockets instead of covering even basic human needs for children. That’s clear, because why would a private company keep their costs down so low that they completely disregard humanity, even though they say they’re experts in “healthcare?”



PROFIT. FOR THEIR PRIVATE INVESTORS.


1. While I can’t name for you the private investors getting rich off of this humanitarian crisis, I can name for you members of the advisory board of DCCP, which approves everything in the portfolio.



First up: Trump’s former Chief of Staff, John Kelly, who was named to the board LAST MONTH, and photographed riding a golf cart into a CHS child prison. So with his own eyes, he saw the conditions there. And he was cool with it all, because hey, there’s money to be made for his rich investor friends, and maybe even himself! Who knows! Can’t say for sure, so feel free to reasonably assume what you wish. I’m just stating facts here.


Coincidentally, prior to joining Trump in the WH, he was also a paid lobbyist for DCCP. Hmmmm...


1. So next up on the DCCP board: Richard L. Armitage, former U.S. deputy secretary of state; Michael Corbin; former ambassador to the United Arab Emirates; Michael V. Hayden, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency and of the National Security Agency; Donald M. Kerr Jr., former deputy director of science and technology at the CIA; Anthony C. Zinni, former commander-in-chief of the U.S. Central Command and former U.S. Envoy to the Middle East; and Stephen F. Loftus, former director of the Office of the Budget for the United States Navy.



Are y’all seeing any patterns here?


1. Michael Hayden, last June, said on the record he sees “commonality” between Nazi Germany’s separation of children at concentration camps and the Trump administration policy that is forcing children to be separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border.



"I know we’re not Nazi Germany, alright. But there is a commonality there, and a fear on my part ... We have standards we have to live up to,” Hayden told CNN’s “New Day.”


It appears he left those standards at the boardroom door, along with many other individuals that dance with greed and corruption on the line of the private and public sectors COMPLETELY UNCHECKED.


1. Last month, the same month Kelly got his new gig, the government awarded CHS a brand new, hush-hush contract worth $341 million, even though there had been tons of pressure to close it due to its conditions.



THERE WAS NO COMPETITIVE BIDDING FOR THE CONTRACT, and it happened under the radar.


1. Just two months before this, in March, CHS/Caliburn cancelled its IPO after registering with the SEC to sell $100m public shares. The CEO cited “market forces,” yet made it clear the company was thriving and growing.



——————


I’ll leave you to come to your own conclusions about all of this, or do more research. And I’ll post a ton of sources in the comments for those who actually think this administration is “draining the swamp,” or who want to debate the semantics of whether these ”centers” can reasonably be called child concentration camps or not without offending some non-brown people.


And for those of you who think children don’t deserve the most basic human rights because they’re not American: There’s a special place in hell for you, and I imagine hell to be a whole lot like this situation.


For those of you who are cool lining the pockets of private citizens in DC with YOUR tax dollars while dirty, hungry, sick children live imprisoned and stacked in cages without even a dime of your money going to pay for soap and toothbrushes for these kids like it was supposed to: I’m ashamed to share this country with you as legal citizens, and I think you’re disgustingly dumb. We failed you, too, but at least you got to go to school when you were a kid, and didn’t spend childhood dying in a cage.


America, NONE OF THIS IS OK. WAKE UP.


https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/CLBR:US


https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article229744049.html


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-k...rgest-unaccompanied-migrant-children-shelter/


https://news.littlesis.org/2019/02/...vAus6mZwT5X42YR0946O-9ALtwFh-P-2i8P_ZxLQ8QvwE


https://thehill.com/latino/392727-h...u70gdibR-H6-3tI8dOh_9yqfjZtNx-kfQJb6AMuf-gemI





https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/21/us/migrant-shelters-border-crossing.html


https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/cali...WEZxdwOlGwwCj-eDjaIR2I2pCNPd6qgehjCKs0lJpIJuQ


https://www.thedailybeast.com/doj-i...i6bp7mD7SzKYo5wCY-x2lODw4fKDNrssupd-FGcOfmjnY


https://thebaffler.com/latest/retir...ho4QPq21zXRNovBl8_gvKpFdX3rUWahrOuZmBLJ9pO_m0


https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2018/06/20/cape-canaveral-detention-center/717375002/


https://www.chsmedical.com/compliance

 

[Sapidus]

This is some of the most important information posted on this forum today but these idiots will just ignore it.

It's no different from the private prison industry in this country that incentivizes jailing people for marijuana offenses so these same people can profit

This is the most corrupt administration in history and yet these fools honestly believe Trump is "draining the swamp" because he screams it louder.

You would think these types of things would appeal to people who believe in idiotic conspriacys like Pizzagate and Seth Rich but for some reason they continue to give Trump the benefit of the doubt time and again.

. He has so totally turned the entire county into a US vs them that even if these people could see they truth they would never be willing to admit it because they don't want to appear wrong and B they don't want the "liberals to win"

It's all so sad

 

[This_person]

This is some of the most important information posted on this forum today but these idiots will just ignore it.

Have you written or called your Congressional representative and Senator and asked them to change the system from one of private (read: less expensive and more efficient) to government?

If not, you're really just spouting nonsense and continuing to be part of the problem vice solution.

If so, let us know what they tell you.

 

[Sapidus]

Have you written or called your Congressional representative and Senator and asked them to change the system from one of private (read: less expensive and more efficient) to government?

If not, you're really just spouting nonsense and continuing to be part of the problem vice solution.

If so, let us know what they tell you.

I have contacted all my reps about this and other issues I also vote with my wallet by not shopping at stores who have publicly stated policies i don't like. I am in fact very involved in politics at a local level in my area as well.


Thanks for asking and once again making a personal attack while doing nothing to ensure that people are treated humanely despite flapping your gums about how important it is to you. Kinda like you do with religion and everything else. Hypocrite.


Why does the fact that two people are discussing the inadequacies of the current system and the inhumane treatment people are profiting from bother you so much you fell you must attack them instead of participating in the conversation or think about ways you could improve the system and the country as a whole?

 

[gemma_rae]

Dear Douche Bags,

It has already been made public that these poor bastards are victims of a group of leftist progressive lawyers from California who engaged in human trafficking and abandoned them in Mexico instead of delivering to the U.S. as promised.

If you cared, you would try to help them, but you don't. In fact, I would wager you or someone you know profited from this and think you can blame your way out of it by saying...but Trump!

 

[This_person]

Edit: This is not my original work. Instead of quoting each paragraph, I'm just going to be lazy and say this up front.


So I decided to do a little research into the $750/day figure I’d heard a private company was charging the US government per each detained migrant child. I wanted to: 1. verify this figure was accurate 2. verify it was indeed a private company instead of a non-profit charging this, as both have managed these detention centers (not that it really matters, ultimately, but stay with me) 3. try to figure out where this per diem sum was going, if not to even buy these tortured children toothbrushes and soap, which are about the cheapest basic necessities on the market, and which no individual has to replace every day.


$750/person A DAY should cover a lot of necessities, right? So where the hell is all this money going? This can’t be true...


Well here’s what I found:


1. Yes, it’s a private company called Comprehensive Health Services (a subsidiary of Caliburn International). CHS operates the largest child migrant detention center, which is in FL and was already receiving horrible press — especially from local FL papers — last year. But that didn’t matter, because CHS recently opened up a few more child prisons in TX, as it snagged a new government contract, despite many documented concerns about conditions in Florida.





2. $750/day per child is an accurate sum of CHS’s CLAIMED operating costs, and what our federal tax dollars are paying for. A sum that was agreed to upon award of the contract. In fact, it was actually on the record as $775 last summer.





3. So where is this money going, you wonder, if not to soap and toothbrushes? Yeah, I did too, and it was quite easy to dig up. CHS, via Caliburn, is controlled by the private equity firm DC Capital Partners. For those of you who don’t know how private equity firms work, look it up.





4. While I would not be able to find out vested shareholders in the DCCP portfolio, we do not have to assume they’re making some nice returns on these CHS operations and government contracts that line their pockets instead of covering even basic human needs for children. That’s clear, because why would a private company keep their costs down so low that they completely disregard humanity, even though they say they’re experts in “healthcare?”



PROFIT. FOR THEIR PRIVATE INVESTORS.


1. While I can’t name for you the private investors getting rich off of this humanitarian crisis, I can name for you members of the advisory board of DCCP, which approves everything in the portfolio.



First up: Trump’s former Chief of Staff, John Kelly, who was named to the board LAST MONTH, and photographed riding a golf cart into a CHS child prison. So with his own eyes, he saw the conditions there. And he was cool with it all, because hey, there’s money to be made for his rich investor friends, and maybe even himself! Who knows! Can’t say for sure, so feel free to reasonably assume what you wish. I’m just stating facts here.


Coincidentally, prior to joining Trump in the WH, he was also a paid lobbyist for DCCP. Hmmmm...


1. So next up on the DCCP board: Richard L. Armitage, former U.S. deputy secretary of state; Michael Corbin; former ambassador to the United Arab Emirates; Michael V. Hayden, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency and of the National Security Agency; Donald M. Kerr Jr., former deputy director of science and technology at the CIA; Anthony C. Zinni, former commander-in-chief of the U.S. Central Command and former U.S. Envoy to the Middle East; and Stephen F. Loftus, former director of the Office of the Budget for the United States Navy.



Are y’all seeing any patterns here?


1. Michael Hayden, last June, said on the record he sees “commonality” between Nazi Germany’s separation of children at concentration camps and the Trump administration policy that is forcing children to be separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border.



"I know we’re not Nazi Germany, alright. But there is a commonality there, and a fear on my part ... We have standards we have to live up to,” Hayden told CNN’s “New Day.”


It appears he left those standards at the boardroom door, along with many other individuals that dance with greed and corruption on the line of the private and public sectors COMPLETELY UNCHECKED.


1. Last month, the same month Kelly got his new gig, the government awarded CHS a brand new, hush-hush contract worth $341 million, even though there had been tons of pressure to close it due to its conditions.



THERE WAS NO COMPETITIVE BIDDING FOR THE CONTRACT, and it happened under the radar.


1. Just two months before this, in March, CHS/Caliburn cancelled its IPO after registering with the SEC to sell $100m public shares. The CEO cited “market forces,” yet made it clear the company was thriving and growing.



——————


I’ll leave you to come to your own conclusions about all of this, or do more research. And I’ll post a ton of sources in the comments for those who actually think this administration is “draining the swamp,” or who want to debate the semantics of whether these ”centers” can reasonably be called child concentration camps or not without offending some non-brown people.


And for those of you who think children don’t deserve the most basic human rights because they’re not American: There’s a special place in hell for you, and I imagine hell to be a whole lot like this situation.


For those of you who are cool lining the pockets of private citizens in DC with YOUR tax dollars while dirty, hungry, sick children live imprisoned and stacked in cages without even a dime of your money going to pay for soap and toothbrushes for these kids like it was supposed to: I’m ashamed to share this country with you as legal citizens, and I think you’re disgustingly dumb. We failed you, too, but at least you got to go to school when you were a kid, and didn’t spend childhood dying in a cage.


America, NONE OF THIS IS OK. WAKE UP.

How did we get here?

Review of the Federal Bureau of Prisons’ Monitoring of Contract Prisons​

To help alleviate overcrowding and respond to congressional mandates, in 1997 the BOP had begun contracting with privately operated institutions (often referred to as “contract prisons”), at first on a smaller scale and later more extensively, to confine federal inmates who are primarily low security, criminal alien adult males with 90 months or less remaining to serve on their sentences.

There you go, those pesky Clintons really mucking things up for all of us.

 

[Gilligan]

I am in fact very involved in politics at a local level in my area as well.

..Cliff?..Cliff Claven?..is that you?

 

[Burnthings]

How did we get here?



There you go, those pesky Clintons really mucking things up for all of us.

They are a part of it, now go a step further and get the rest of them.

 

[This_person]

I have contacted all my reps about this and other issues I also vote with my wallet by not shopping at stores who have publicly stated policies i don't like. I am in fact very involved in politics at a local level in my area as well.

This is outstanding. What did they tell you? (perhaps you missed that question in my post)

Thanks for asking and once again making a personal attack while doing nothing to ensure that people are treated humanely despite flapping your gums about how important it is to you. Kinda like you do with religion and everything else. Hypocrite.

I gave no personal attack - I said if you're a POS, you're a POS, and if not, what did they tell you? You didn't answer what they told you.

You really seem stuck on religion, though. I don't know how many times I can tell you that we are not to run our government based on religious principles. Why can't you get that?

Why does the fact that two people are discussing the inadequacies of the current system and the inhumane treatment people are profiting from bother you so much you fell you must attack them instead of participating in the conversation or think about ways you could improve the system and the country as a whole?

I attacked no one, so I can't defend myself against a charge of taking an action I didn't take.

However, I've thought of and described many ways to improve the system as a whole, which would of course improve the country.

1. Stop illegal immigrants at the point of being caught, and when found to be in the country illegally, send them IMMEDIATELY back where they came, stop ex post facto asylum seeking.
2. Stop all forms of welfare or sanctuary for illegal aliens, and remove federal funding from all areas that do not stop local/state government support of illegal aliens.
3. Require e-verify, and punish employers for knowingly hiring illegal aliens - punish illegal aliens who steal identities (or otherwise forge identities) to go around e-verify.
4. After a second time of being caught in the country illegally, drastically increase punishment of the offender.
5. Remove all federal aid to countries - let them resolve their own problems.

I've made other recommendations, but those should be good for discussion in the near term.

 

[This_person]

They are a part of it, now go a step further and get the rest of them.

Remove the head of the snake and the snake will stop fighting.

 

[Burnthings]

Remove the head of the snake and the snake will stop fighting.

This one has more than one head. We're not going to make any progress until you realize that.

 

[Sapidus]

This is outstanding. What did they tell you? (perhaps you missed that question in my post)



I gave no personal attack - I said if you're a POS, you're a POS, and if not, what did they tell you? You didn't answer what they told you.

You really seem stuck on religion, though. I don't know how many times I can tell you that we are not to run our government based on religious principles. Why can't you get that?



I attacked no one, so I can't defend myself against a charge of taking an action I didn't take.

However, I've thought of and described many ways to improve the system as a whole, which would of course improve the country.

1. Stop illegal immigrants at the point of being caught, and when found to be in the country illegally, send them IMMEDIATELY back where they came, stop ex post facto asylum seeking.
2. Stop all forms of welfare or sanctuary for illegal aliens, and remove federal funding from all areas that do not stop local/state government support of illegal aliens.
3. Require e-verify, and punish employers for knowingly hiring illegal aliens - punish illegal aliens who steal identities (or otherwise forge identities) to go around e-verify.
4. After a second time of being caught in the country illegally, drastically increase punishment of the offender.
5. Remove all federal aid to countries - let them resolve their own problems.

I've made other recommendations, but those should be good for discussion in the near term.

I saw it. I didnt reply because its not really your concern. If you have concerns you can contact your reps.

This thread is about bringing to light the corruption and profit being made at the expense of some of the poorest people in our hemisphere.

I see you conveniently ignored all the issue the OP brought up and instead dove head first into more discussions of the Clintons and other ways you can distract from the current administrations inhumane treatment and thereby above yourself of any associated guilt

 

[This_person]

This one has more than one head. We're not going to make any progress until you realize that.

I realize it.

Now, about that progress....

 

[This_person]

I saw it. I didnt reply because its not really your concern. If you have concerns you can contact your reps.

I've contacted mine. They sent me a form letter telling me how great they are, and that they're very interested in (insert issue here).

But, my representation is Steny Hoyer, Chris Van Hollen, and Ben Cardin. I would not expect them to provide any meaningful feedback - they don't have any.

This thread is about bringing to light the corruption and profit being made at the expense of some of the poorest people in our hemisphere.

I see you conveniently ignored all the issue the OP brought up and instead dove head first into more discussions of the Clintons and other ways you can distract from the current administrations inhumane treatment and thereby above yourself of any associated guilt

I fully agree the treatment is less than par. But, what's the administration to do when they are denied funding? Should they steal money from other programs illegally or illegally release detainees they're not allowed to release?

 

[Sapidus]

I've contacted mine. They sent me a form letter telling me how great they are, and that they're very interested in (insert issue here).

But, my representation is Steny Hoyer, Chris Van Hollen, and Ben Cardin. I would not expect them to provide any meaningful feedback - they don't have any.



I fully agree the treatment is less than par. But, what's the administration to do when they are denied funding? Should they steal money from other programs illegally or illegally release detainees they're not allowed to release?

I have told you dozens of times now that rating people inhumanely in an attempt to blackmail law makers into doing your bidding is unconsittuionl , immoral and unethical.

The issue of funding was clouded ( as are many of your arguments) by the intertwining of funding for a border wall the majority of americans (59%) do not want and do not want to pay for.

Using human being lives , health, comfort and safety as a bargaining chip is not acceptable whether you are agnostic, religious, liberal , conservative.

A good leader ( and a great negotiator) would direct his party to negotiate with the intent of solving the humanitarian crisis. Trump and the republicans never attempted that without trying to extract something no one wanted to fulfill a campaign promise he made ( after first lying about making mexico pay for)

Democrats have constantly offered security upgrades and upgrades to existing infrastructure and fencing in an attempt to negotiate the issue.


Stop repeating the same idiotic talking points and pretending you are too obtuse to understand what is happening

 

[This_person]

I have told you dozens of times now that rating people inhumanely in an attempt to blackmail law makers into doing your bidding is unconsittuionl , immoral and unethical.

Please provide the constitutional wording about rating people.

The issue of funding was clouded ( as are many of your arguments) by the intertwining of funding for a border wall the majority of americans (59%) do not want and do not want to pay for.

Seems pretty clear to me - at least some of the funding would have gone for humanitarian aid (almost $4B, to be exact), and the House refused. After the funding was lowered due to the border security measures of which you speak, they never increased funding appropriations for the humanitarian needs.

That's pretty clear. It's the House's role to initiate funding, they were told funding was needed, and they never did until a couple of weeks ago. What's cloudy about that?

Using human being lives , health, comfort and safety as a bargaining chip is not acceptable whether you are agnostic, religious, liberal , conservative.

there's that pesky religion again....we do NOT run our government by religious principles.

As for using human beings' humanitarian needs, I fully agree. That's why Trump asked for more funding, and the House saying "**** off" is so bothersome. Nancy and her crew just couldn't stop themselves from screwing these poor illegal aliens over.

A good leader ( and a great negotiator) would direct his party to negotiate with the intent of solving the humanitarian crisis.

So, you're saying Pelosi and Schumer are not good leaders?

Democrats have constantly offered security upgrades and upgrades to existing infrastructure and fencing in an attempt to negotiate the issue.

Name the one they put forth immediately after government re-opened. You know, when Trump told them he needed more money for humanitarian aid, what was there opening offer?

Stop repeating the same idiotic talking points and pretending you are too obtuse to understand what is happening