Greed Growth for 25 more years.

[Ken King]

We already have 84 relocatable fire box trailers in use right now with less then 30 public schools in all of St. Mary's County. And those new schools KK refers to will not even start construction till next year 2007 and then years more before the first one opens (KK's post says 2012 - thats 6 more years). But the new $2. million in more relocatable fire box trailers will be here and ready for use this year and more next year and more more more year after year after year.

So we have 84 in use, big deal. How many children have been injured or hurt because of these fire-box trailers? You are wrong about the relocatable classrooms that are coming. The majority of that expenditure will be for use when Leonardtown Elementary undergoes renovation. Do you expect those students to just not go to school or be sent to other schools while the work is in progress? And that $2 million figure was up through 2012 and just not 2007 with only $153K for years 2008-2012. How many relocatables is that per year Mr. Wizard?

We need to put a stop to it and we need to stop it now.

What are you going to put a stop to, children becoming school age?

I do not see any ethical reason why our Representatives can not start doing their jobs and start defending our community and protecting our infrastructure right now. But I sure can see lots of unethical reasons for the failure of not doing their jobs.

Adding new schools and renovating current schools seems like they are protecting the infrastructure and building upon it. What is unethical about that?

Plus, I can not see any real reason why the Navy Base can not start respecting our home town, as it certainly is not doing so now.

What is the Navy doing that doesn’t respect the local community? It’s a nice catch phrase but it is meaningless, just like you.

When I get elected then no one is going to effectively tell me that we must keep accepting the second rate and inferior conditions like the Representatives are doing now for 29b and for St. Mary's County.

Should you get elected we will indeed be stuck with not second-rate but third-rate or worse.

 

[Bruzilla]

What exactly is a "Columbine-Style" school?

 

[Ken King]

What exactly is a "Columbine-Style" school?

Modern and new is the best I can figure. JustPureCrazy went on this rant shortly after there was an alleged gunman at Leonardtown High.

 

[MMDad]

What exactly is a "Columbine-Style" school?

They are the size of the current schools in St. Mary's, but they have high graduation rates and high SAT scores. I guess that whole "success" thing is anathema to JPC.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

What exactly is a "Columbine-Style" school?

Big Institutional size where students are trivialized and neglected and the teachers do not know the students and their families, and more.

 

[residentofcre]

Big Institutional size where students are trivialized and neglected and the teachers do not know the students and their families, and more.

Yeah... like St Mary's is ever going to get that kind of school.... for one thing the PTA would not tolerate it... then there is the teacher's union to deal with.... and then there's the money required to build it...

Nope... not going to happen any time soon.... bucko!

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

Yeah... like St Mary's is ever going to get that kind of school.... for one thing the PTA would not tolerate it... then there is the teacher's union to deal with.... and then there's the money required to build it...

Nope... not going to happen any time soon.... bucko!

What we are getting is second rate and inferior relocatable fire box trailers.

I want us to have better then that.

 

[Ken King]

What we are getting is second rate and inferior relocatable fire box trailers.

I want us to have better then that.

Wrong again, we are getting 3 new elementary schools, a new middle school and a new high school plus older schools are being rennovated.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

So we have 84 in use, big deal.

We only have 27 schools altogether in St. Mary's County.
18 Elementary Schools
4 Middle Schools
3 High Schools
1 Tech Center
1 Alternate Learning Center

So 84 Relocatable trailers is three times the number of school buildings and the trailers are increasing more.

How many children have been injured or hurt because of these fire-box trailers?

Even if two of the trailer had not burned already in 29b like they did, then the trailers still signify second rate inferior conditions for our schools.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

So we have 84 in use, big deal. ... that $2 million figure was up through 2012 and just not 2007 with only $153K for years 2008-2012. How many relocatables is that per year Mr. Wizard?

Here is the link that KK used for reference,

Click here for KK's info for SMC Public Schools, FY 2007.

For FY 2007 (that is this coming school year starting August 2006-2007) it has (and the link shows in first paragraph bottom line) budgeted $350,000. for NEW Relocatable [fire box trailers] coming for this school year. That is added onto the 84 trailers we already have and $350,000. buys a lot of trailer. And according to KK in the post quoted above the plan is to purchase more relocatable trailer with ("only" per KK) "only $153,000. more.

 

[Ken King]

Here is the link that KK used for reference,

Click here for KK's info for SMC Public Schools, FY 2007.

For FY 2007 (that is this coming school year starting August 2006-2007) it has (and the link shows in first paragraph bottom line) budgeted $350,000. for NEW Relocatable [fire box trailers] coming for this school year. That is added onto the 84 trailers we already have and $350,000. buys a lot of trailer. And according to KK in the post quoted above the plan is to purchase more relocatable trailer with ("only" per KK) "only $153,000. more.

You can't even read what is there, can you? And what I have used is the link you referenced earlier in one of your ignorant rants.

That link shows the following planned expenditures as to relocatable classrooms.

2007
State relocatables - Leonardtown Elem. $226,000
State relocatables - site TBD $85,000 (requested $84,750 budgeted $85,000)
State eligible - local relocatables $350,200
Leonardtown Elem - local relocatables $734,000
Relocatable capacity needs - $153,000
2007 total for relocatables $1,548,200

2008
Relocatable capacity needs - various locations $153,000

2009
Relocatable capacity needs - various locations $153,000

2010
Relocatable capacity needs - various locations $153,000

2011
Relocatable capacity needs - various locations $153,000

2012
Relocatable capacity needs - various locations $153,000

That is what the plan says; does it mean that they will have to do so once the new schools are opened?

Why is it that even though the relocatables have accounted for zero injuries you claim they are unsafe?

Why is it that you can't read JPC? What other deficiencies will you bring to office should you get elected?

 

[Bruzilla]

Big Institutional size where students are trivialized and neglected and the teachers do not know the students and their families, and more.

Wow! I had no idea my HS, Plum Senior High School in Pittsburgh, was a Columbine school. BTW, what need is there for a HS teacher to know the families of their students? Most teachers only see a kid for 40 minutes a day, so it's not like an elementary school where the teacher sees the same kids all day. My HS teachers never knew my family because they never had a need to.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

Wow! I had no idea my HS, Plum Senior High School in Pittsburgh, was a Columbine school. BTW, what need is there for a HS teacher to know the families of their students? Most teachers only see a kid for 40 minutes a day, so it's not like an elementary school where the teacher sees the same kids all day. My HS teachers never knew my family because they never had a need to.

There it is, by first hand testimony. If we let St. Mary's escalate out of control then we get people like this poster that thinks it is normal and to be expected.

To try to give answer to the poster, when the teacher knows the student's family then they have a more vested interest in the teaching and they can communicate with the families and can understand any special needs and can give greater credance to the individuality.

 

[Ken King]

There it is, by first hand testimony. If we let St. Mary's escalate out of control then we get people like this poster that thinks it is normal and to be expected.

To try to give answer to the poster, when the teacher knows the student's family then they have a more vested interest in the teaching and they can communicate with the families and can understand any special needs and can give greater credance to the individuality.

And when was the last time a teacher knew the families of their entire class? For high school teachers that could be 200 or more families. You do know JPC we haven't had the one-room school houses in quite sometime?

Did your teachers know your family and if so why did they allow for you to drop out? After all, schools were smaller back then, right?

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

Why is it that even though the relocatables have accounted for zero injuries you claim they are unsafe?

Because two (2) of the relocatable trailers have burned down in 29b at the George Washington Carver Elementary School. Duh.

And we do not have to wait for injuries before fixing the problem. That is if I get elected because otherwise the problem with trailers will not be stopped but is planned to increase with many more of the relocatable fire box trailers. And note that the 2 burned down with Bohanan in 29b and he said nothing and that sell out still says nothing because he does not let student safety interfere with his political agenda.

But just for KK's sake we say that none of the 84-plus trailers are going to burn down because we know the future and the trailers are fine and they are risking other people's public school kids, so even if the relocatable trailers are safe (which they are not) then still anyway the trailers represent second rate and inferior conditions for St. Mary's County schools and it needs to be stopped. Fire or no fire the trailers need to go because the trailers are inferior to school buildings.

 

[Toxick]

What we are getting is second rate and inferior relocatable fire box trailers.

I want us to have better then that.

Isn't that sweet?



You know - I want us to have better than that too. But you, sir, need to rethink your agenda if you're going to say such things.


Let me break this down into the simplest terms.


To get better, we are going to need, either more schools or bigger schools. Since you don't want bigger schools (what you call "Columbine-Style", whatever the hell that means), that means building MORE schools.

More schools means: MORE money which you get by creating MORE tax revenue.




Meanwhile, you have also decided that you want to stop (or at least greatly reduce) the growth and expansion around here - in particular you want to stifle the growth of the single largest source of income that has ever shown its face in this part of the state since the beginning of time.

In case you haven't figured this out by now: That means LESS money - LESS tax revenue because of FEWER jobs.




FURTHERMORE: You want taxpayer monies to fund the upbringing of neglected children so that their deadbeat parents don't have to.


So you're trying to create for yourself, a smaller tax base, then you want to set off a huge portion of it for your assinine pet-project, and THEN you expect to have enough money to build a shitload of schools.


This is, quite simply, impossible - and that should be glaringly apparent, even to the most casual observer.





You're like my 4 year old kid, who once told me that I can buy anything I want, because I have checks!

 

[Ken King]

Because two (2) of the relocatable trailers have burned down in 29b at the George Washington Carver Elementary School. Duh.

And we do not have to wait for injuries before fixing the problem. That is if I get elected because otherwise the problem with trailers will not be stopped but is planned to increase with many more of the relocatable fire box trailers. And note that the 2 burned down with Bohanan in 29b and he said nothing and that sell out still says nothing because he does not let student safety interfere with his political agenda.

But just for KK's sake we say that none of the 84-plus trailers are going to burn down because we know the future and the trailers are fine and they are risking other people's public school kids, so even if the relocatable trailers are safe (which they are not) then still anyway the trailers represent second rate and inferior conditions for St. Mary's County schools and it needs to be stopped. Fire or no fire the trailers need to go because the trailers are inferior to school buildings.

And there has never been a fire at a school other then the two relocatable classrooms?

Don't the relocatables have to meet or exceed state standards for safety?

You don't want relocatables, you don't want new, larger, more modern schools, do you know what you want? And what will the cost be of what you want?

How can the use of relocatable classrooms be considered second-rate when the use of them is being done to achieve and maintain lower classroom size which is considered the top-ranked priority of most educators?

Do you have data that shows relocatable classrooms are less safe then standard built schools?

 

[tirdun]

Do you have data that shows relocatable classrooms are less safe then standard built schools?

I just want to pre-emp JPC's response, in which he will (again) point to the fires as some sort of harbinger of doom for the safety of school age children.

As posted, there was a single incident that the Fire Marshall described as isolated and unusual.

As posted, the vast, overwhelming majority of fires in schools involve the kitchen or arson. The first is all but impossible in a relocatable, the second is no more likely to happen in a relocatable than any other structure at the school.

So, that out of the way, Ken's question stands.

 

[JPC, Sr.]

The Wizard!

I just want to pre-emp JPC's response, in which he will (again) point to the fires as some sort of harbinger of doom for the safety of school age children.

As posted, there was a single incident that the Fire Marshall described as isolated and unusual.

As posted, the vast, overwhelming majority of fires in schools involve the kitchen or arson. The first is all but impossible in a relocatable, the second is no more likely to happen in a relocatable than any other structure at the school.

So, that out of the way, Ken's question stands.

Even if the trailers did not catch fire in 29b and even if they were to never catch fire ever again anywhere, then still the trailers in and of themslves are second rate and inferior conditions then having actual school buildings. And schools made of brick and block do not burn while two (2) trailers have already burned in 29b.

I believe that St. Mary's County deserves better then that.

And the cause to the problem is the excessive and unneccessary political policies of out-of-control growth coming at Pax NAS through Bohanan that does not defend our community and does not protect our infrastructure.

I will be a big change for 29b and I will put a stop to it.

 

[ylexot]

You do know JPC we haven't had the one-room school houses in quite sometime?

You know what those one-room school houses remind me of? Relocatable ("firebox") trailers!