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Midnightrider

Midnightrider

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Gilligan said:
So you have such a high opinion of yourself that you believe you have the authority to "direct" anyone to state an opinion on any issue. Sorry, I don't share anything close to that high of a regard for you. I weighed in to correct some fallacies thrown out about Nathan Forrest, the man. You are the only one of the two of us that is all wrapped up in the NBF monument issue. I have not offered an opinion on it. Overall, I do take a dim view toward the Stalinist erasure of history.....any history..all history.
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You said the identical thing in the BSA thread just before you ran and hid.


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GURPS

GURPS

INGSOC
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Midnightrider said:
But i'll save you the time. The real reason the monument and grave are being moved is that the land is slated to be used for soemthing else.
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that is interesting, since the City only a week or so ago voted to make the change AFTER the shootings in SC




On 7 July 2015, the Memphis City Council, responding to growing public sentiment, unanimously agreed to move the remains of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest and his wife from Health Sciences Park in downtown Memphis.

Bedford was originally interred at Elmwood Cemetery, but his remains were moved Forrest Park (renamed Health Sciences Park in 2013 as part of an effort to remove the names of Confederate figures from public parks) in 1905 to coincide with the installation of a statue of him there:

Gen. Forrest is a popular yet highly controversial figure. After the Civil War, he served as the first leader or “grand wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan when it formed in 1866.

State officials across the country have been calling for the eradication of Confederate symbols, icons, and monuments from key sites in recent weeks. Yet if the council’s plan goes through, it would be the first attempt to disinter the corpse of a Confederate leader as a symbolic gesture to denounce Dixie’s white-supremacist history.​

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Although the Memphis City Council has voted to move the Confederate general’s remains (as well as his statue), the measure still has to be approved by the Tennessee Historical Commission. If it is, Forrest will return to his former resting place at Elmwood (the oldest active cemetery in Memphis).

Lowery said that he is confident that the Historical Commission will approve the measure:

“What we’ve done here in Memphis is no different from what’s happening across the country. I think it’s time to remove symbols of racism and bigotry… We feel that we have support from the state.”​

Sons of Confederate Veterans member Lee Millar spoke for those who oppose the proposal and view it as an attempt to erase Confederate history:

“The Forrest family is solidly opposed to digging up the graves and moving them any place. The statue just as well. They’re opposed to moving the statue too… This appears to me to be another knee jerk reaction to that anti-Confederate hysteria. Some people here are trying to get on the bandwagon in erasing Confederate history and its just wrong.”​


Read more at http://m.snopes.com/2015/07/13/move-forrest-remains/#BJxBCWLYPVsUcxMb.99
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Midnightrider

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tblwdc said:
No.

I answered your question. Will you now answer mine?

Do you think buying and selling slaves is better than being a grand wizard of the KKK? Do you think bedding a person who has no right to refuse is better than being a grand wizard of the KKK?
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I would say all those are bad. However the grand wizard is 'worse' for a few reasons.

If your answer is 'no, there should not be monuments to grand wizards of the KKK', I think you should be able to answer the rest for yourself.
 
Gilligan

Gilligan

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Midnightrider said:
You said the identical thing in the BSA thread just before you ran and hid.


:bigwhoop:
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And? You still don't have a clue? You certainly didn't provide an answer.

So you are a fan of Robert Byrd memorials but not Nathan Forrest memorials? <---- me playing your silly game.
 
Gilligan

Gilligan

#*! boat!
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Midnightrider said:
I've already answered, but I will repeat myself as soon as you answer that question yourself.


Until then its just more of the same

http://forums.somd.com/threads/301655-BSA’s-Executive-Committee-Ends-Ban-on-Gay-Adults
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That's all ya got? What is it with you freaks that think someone..anyone..anywhere.."owes" you jack squat for explanation? I'll pose subjects to my little hearts' content...and you?..well you will continue on with your remarkably fine tradition of brainless obfuscation, no doubt.
 
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tblwdc

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Midnightrider said:
I would say all those are bad. However the grand wizard is 'worse' for a few reasons.

If your answer is 'no, there should not be monuments to grand wizards of the KKK', I think you should be able to answer the rest for yourself.
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Then I'll ask you. Do you think there should be any monuments for people who owned slaves or made their slaves sleep with them? If you think it's okay for Washington and memorial....why?
 
Midnightrider

Midnightrider

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Gilligan said:
That's all ya got? What is it with you freaks that think someone..anyone..anywhere.."owes" you jack squat for explanation? I'll pose subjects to my little hearts' content...and you?..well you will continue on with your remarkably fine tradition of brainless obfuscation, no doubt.
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Gilligan said:
Hiding?? LOL..from what, pray tell?

So you are a fan of Robert Byrd memorials but not Nathan Forrest memorials? Fan of both?...neither?
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http://forums.somd.com/threads/301655-BSA’s-Executive-Committee-Ends-Ban-on-Gay-Adults
 
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Hijinx

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Midnightrider said:
you give both of us too much credit. I only think i am smarter than you, and you are not as smart as the average idiot on the forums.
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LMAO That is your opinion.

Opinion are like azzholes , everyone has one and in your case the opinion stinks-------------and probably it's owner also.
 
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Hijinx

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Midnightrider said:
you give both of us too much credit. I only think i am smarter than you, and you are not as smart as the average idiot on the forums.
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It's funny you skipped over the entire body of the Post and just added your usual insults.

Afraid to answer questions is seeming to be a habit of yours. Not very good for someone who believes himself intelligent.
 
Midnightrider

Midnightrider

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Hijinx said:
It's funny you skipped over the entire body of the Post and just added your usual insults.

Afraid to answer questions is seeming to be a habit of yours. Not very good for someone who believes himself intelligent.
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Nothing like trolling in, and double posting up some hypocrisy :killingme
Hijinx said:
LMAO That is your opinion.

Opinion are like azzholes , everyone has one and in your case the opinion stinks-------------and probably it's owner also.
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GURPS

GURPS

INGSOC
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Midnightrider said:
How do you explain them renaming the park in 2013?
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it was still a park wasn't it ?

you stated;
The real reason the monument and grave are being moved is that the land is slated to be used for soemthing else. [nice typing BTW]


that statement has NOTHING to do with the renaming of he property in 2013 ... it was still A PARK


but this was covered in my post:

.... but his remains were moved Forrest Park (renamed Health Sciences Park in 2013 as part of an effort to remove the names of Confederate figures from public parks) in 1905 to coincide with the installation of a statue of him there
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tblwdc

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Midnightrider said:
I didn't miss anything. I told you that you should be able to answer that for yourself. :shrug:
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I hadn't asked this question when you said that. I answered your question. I think you were very critical of others who were afraid to answer. Are you joining that crowd?

tblwdc said:
Then I'll ask you. Do you think there should be any monuments for people who owned slaves or made their slaves sleep with them? If you think it's okay for Washington and memorial....why?
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I gave you an honest to the point answer. I was under the impression you were man enough to reciprocate.
 
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